

Real Talk: Real Estate Discussions with Andrew Kirsh
Andrew Kirsh
Welcome to Real Talk: Real Estate Discussions with Andrew Kirsh. In each episode of Real Talk, Andrew interviews industry leaders. We'll hear their real-time opinions on today's market, their background and unique career highlights, and guidance for newcomers to the industry.
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Aug 2, 2023 • 43min
Institutional Construction Management with Colby Durnin, Founder and CEO of CREDE
In this week's episode of Real Talk, I have a conversation with Colby Durnin, Founder and CEO of CREDE (Commercial Real Estate Development Enterprises).
We discuss:
How to effectively build a national company providing construction management services
How his perspective as a fee service provider has assisted in building an owner/operator portfolio
Why he prefers extreme sports as business development activities over golf or going to a sporting event
Learn more and connect with Colby:
Visit CREDE's website: https://www.credegroup.com/
Connect with Colby on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/colby-durnin-63a9a24
In each episode of Real Talk: Real Estate Discussions, Andrew Kirsh interviews industry leaders to learn their real-time opinions on today's market, their background and unique career highlights, and guidance for newcomers to the industry.
Don't miss an episode of Real Talk:
Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3GT1hoM
Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OQrd6j
Listen on Anchor: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/andrew-kirsh2
Listen on Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/real-talk--real-estate-discussions-with-andrew-kirsh
Listen on Listen Notes: https://lnns.co/7ICHmPQyXnU
Andrew Kirsh is a founding partner of Sklar Kirsh LLP and is the Chair of the firm’s Real Estate Department. Sklar Kirsh LLP is a boutique law firm providing services in corporate law, real estate, entertainment, bankruptcy, and litigation.
Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkirsh/
Connect with Andrew on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/atkirsh
Visit Andrew's business website: https://www.sklarkirsh.com/professionals/andrew-t-kirsh
Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sklar-kirsh-llp/
Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sklarkirsh/

Jul 25, 2023 • 49min
Building a Baseball and Logistics Real Estate Dynasty with Brett Dedeaux, Principal of Dedeaux Properties
In this week's episode of Real Talk, I have a conversation with Brett Dedeaux, Principal of Dedeaux Properties.
We discuss:
How Brett’s grandfather, Rod Dedeaux, led USC’s baseball team to 11 National Titles and coached two Olympic Baseball teams, and at the same time founded a logistics trucking business that still operates today
Building Dedeaux Properties into one of the most active developers and investors in logistics-oriented industrial real estate in Southern California
Thru the Dedeaux Foundation, Brett’s philanthropic efforts have significantly improved the lives of many underprivileged kids in LA
Incorporating modern wellness technologies into his office and business culture
Learn more and connect with Brett:
Visit the website: https://dedeauxproperties.com/
Connect with Brett on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brett-dedeaux-1496a5/
In each episode of Real Talk: Real Estate Discussions, Andrew Kirsh interviews industry leaders to learn their real-time opinions on today's market, their background and unique career highlights, and guidance for newcomers to the industry.
Don't miss an episode of Real Talk:
Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3GT1hoM
Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OQrd6j
Listen on Anchor: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/andrew-kirsh2
Listen on Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/real-talk--real-estate-discussions-with-andrew-kirsh
Listen on Listen Notes: https://lnns.co/7ICHmPQyXnU
Andrew Kirsh is a founding partner of Sklar Kirsh LLP and is the Chair of the firm’s Real Estate Department. Sklar Kirsh LLP is a boutique law firm providing services in corporate law, real estate, entertainment, bankruptcy, and litigation.
Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkirsh/
Connect with Andrew on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/atkirsh
Visit Andrew's business website: https://www.sklarkirsh.com/professionals/andrew-t-kirsh
Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sklar-kirsh-llp/
Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sklarkirsh/

Jun 29, 2023 • 41min
Insider's Perspective on the Real Estate Lending Market with Warren de Haan, Co-CEO of ACORE Capital
In this week's episode of #RealTalk, I have a conversation with Warren de Haan, Co-CEO of ACORE Capital, one of the largest non-bank private lenders in the country with over $21 billion under management.
Tune in to the episode to hear Warren and I discuss:
Macro-economic challenges facing the real estate industry
The concern he has with the future of regional banks
The keys to working with a lender during turbulent times
Learn more and connect with Warren:
Visit the website: https://www.acorecapital.com/
Connect with Warren on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/warren-de-haan-7465a3b9/
In each episode of Real Talk: Real Estate Discussions, Andrew Kirsh interviews industry leaders to learn their real-time opinions on today's market, their background and unique career highlights, and guidance for newcomers to the industry.
Don't miss an episode of Real Talk:
Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3GT1hoM
Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OQrd6j
Listen on Anchor: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/andrew-kirsh2
Listen on Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/real-talk--real-estate-discussions-with-andrew-kirsh
Listen on Listen Notes: https://lnns.co/7ICHmPQyXnU
Andrew Kirsh is a founding partner of Sklar Kirsh LLP and is the Chair of the firm’s Real Estate Department. Sklar Kirsh LLP is a boutique law firm providing services in corporate law, real estate, entertainment, bankruptcy, and litigation.
Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkirsh/
Connect with Andrew on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/atkirsh
Visit Andrew's business website: https://www.sklarkirsh.com/professionals/andrew-t-kirsh
Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sklar-kirsh-llp/
Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sklarkirsh/

Jun 24, 2023 • 50min
From Flipping Houses to Building 400 Unit Apartment Buildings with Paul Schon and Artem Tepler
In this week's episode of #RealTalk, I have a conversation with Paul Schon and Artem Tepler, Co-founders of Schon Tepler.
Schon Tepler Group is a vertically integrated, full-service real estate investment, development, construction and property management firm focused on ground up development of multi-family residential properties throughout Southern California. Schon Tepler Group is privately held, and headquartered in Los Angeles, California.
Tune in to the episode to hear Paul, Artem and I discuss:
* How to go from filling houses to building Class A apartment buildings
* The key metrics to utilize when evaluating development deals
* How they settle their internal disputes in the jujitsu ring
Learn more and connect with Paul and Artem:
* Visit the website: https://www.schontepler.com/
* Connect with Paul Schon on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-schon-b3205419/
* Connect with Artem Tepler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/artemtepler/
In each episode of Real Talk: Real Estate Discussions, Andrew Kirsh interviews industry leaders to learn their real-time opinions on today's market, their background and unique career highlights, and guidance for newcomers to the industry.
Don't miss an episode of Real Talk:
* Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3GT1hoM
* Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OQrd6j
Andrew Kirsh is a founding partner of Sklar Kirsh LLP and is the Chair of the firm’s Real Estate Department. Sklar Kirsh LLP is a boutique law firm providing services in corporate law, real estate, entertainment, bankruptcy, and litigation.
* Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkirsh/
* Connect with Andrew on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/atkirsh
* Visit Andrew's business website: https://www.sklarkirsh.com/professionals/andrew-t-kirsh
* Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sklar-kirsh-llp/
* Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sklarkirsh/

Jun 14, 2023 • 41min
Developing Life Science Real Estate with Doug Lozier, Chief Investment Officer of GeneSuites
In this week's episode of #RealTalk, I have a conversation with Doug Lozier, Chief Investment Officer of GeneSuites.
GeneSuites provides cGMP manufacturing infrastructure procurement, design and construction expertise to the Life Science and Pharmaceutical industries, focused on cGMP manufacturing facility global site selection, process and facility design, CAPEX interior improvement budgets and funding. The GeneSuites platform assists clients in the process development, preclinical, clinical, and commercial stages of cGMP manufacturing strategic planning and execution, uniquely combining real estate and industry cGMP technical expertise.
Tune in to the episode to hear Doug and I discuss:
Life science real estate asset class
What it takes to build out facilities for biotech companies and pharmaceutical companies
The next geographical locations that he predicts will be hotbeds for life science
Learn more and connect with Doug:
Visit the GeneSuites website: https://www.genesuites.com/
Follow GeneSuites on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/genesuites/
Connect with Doug on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/douglas-lozier-8b6a431a/
In each episode of Real Talk: Real Estate Discussions, Andrew Kirsh interviews industry leaders to learn their real-time opinions on today's market, their background and unique career highlights, and guidance for newcomers to the industry.
Don't miss an episode of Real Talk:
* Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3GT1hoM
* Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OQrd6j
Andrew Kirsh is a founding partner of Sklar Kirsh LLP and is the Chair of the firm’s Real Estate Department. Sklar Kirsh LLP is a boutique law firm providing services in corporate law, real estate, entertainment, bankruptcy, and litigation.
Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkirsh/
Connect with Andrew on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/atkirsh
Visit Andrew's business website: https://www.sklarkirsh.com/professionals/andrew-t-kirsh
Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sklar-kirsh-llp/
Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sklarkirsh/

May 24, 2023 • 41min
Crowdfunding Real Estate Deals with Dan Rosenbloom, Chief Investment Officer of Cadre
In this week's episode of #RealTalk, I talk with Dan Rosenbloom, Chief Investment Officer of Cadre.
Cadre is a groundbreaking technology-driven commercial real estate investment platform that offers both institutional and individual investors the opportunity to access expertly curated real estate assets with lower minimums, low fees, and unprecedented potential for liquidity. Via its data-driven and transparent approach, Cadre opens participation in a historically opaque and illiquid asset class.
Since Cadre’s founding, Cadre has closed more than $5 billion in real estate transactions across 25 U.S. markets. Cadre has exited thirteen investments with an approximate 27.5% targeted realized average net IRR and in total has returned approximately $340 million of capital to Cadre investors to date.
Tune in to the episode to hear Dan and I discuss:
How Cadre is trying to revolutionize the commercial real estate investing world with its crowdfunding platform
How Cadre is the unofficial “J-Date” or “Tinder” of real estate investing thru their quarterly liquidity offering
How Cadre differentiates themselves with their $250 million balance sheet to take down deals before they syndicate to the public
Learn more and connect with Dan:
Visit Cadre’s website: https://cadre.com/
Follow Cadre on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/cadrere/
Connect with Dan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-rosenbloom-10a8912/
In each episode of Real Talk: Real Estate Discussions, Andrew Kirsh interviews industry leaders to learn their real-time opinions on today's market, their background and unique career highlights, and guidance for newcomers to the industry.
Don't miss an episode of Real Talk:
Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3GT1hoM
Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OQrd6j
Andrew Kirsh is a founding partner of Sklar Kirsh LLP and is the Chair of the firm’s Real Estate Department. Sklar Kirsh LLP is a boutique law firm providing services in corporate law, real estate, entertainment, bankruptcy, and litigation.
Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkirsh/
Connect with Andrew on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/atkirsh
Visit Andrew's business website: https://www.sklarkirsh.com/professionals/andrew-t-kirsh
Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sklar-kirsh-llp/
Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sklarkirsh/

May 10, 2023 • 44min
Discussing Adaptive Re-use for Urban Mixed-Use Properties with Quincy Allen, Co-Founder of Arc Capital Partners
In this week's #RealTalk podcast episode, I had a great conversation with Quincy Allen, Co-Founder and Managing Partner of Arc Capital Partners. Along with Neville Rhone (also Co-Founder and Managing Partner), he is responsible for overall firm strategy, investments, asset management, financing and dispositions.
Arc Capital Partners is a minority-owned, real estate owner-investor dedicated to redefining urban mixed-use environments. In partnership with large institutional investors, Arc is currently pursuing over $1 billion of urban real estate located primarily in California and Texas. Through the lens of diversity and inclusion, Arc targets middle-market investments ($40 million to $100 million) that typically exhibit value-add and opportunistic business plans.
Tune into the episode to listen to us discuss:
Transforming neighborhoods with high-quality adaptive re-use projects
Is it the Property or Location that makes a mixed-use project successful?
Lessons learned going from the institutional world to being an entrepreneur
Learn more about and connect with Quincy Allen:
Connect with Quincy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/quincy-allen-10a74953/
Learn more about Quincy at his firm's website: https://arccapitalpartners.com/team/
Contact Quincy: qallen@arccapitalpartners.com
In each episode of Real Talk: Real Estate Discussions, Andrew Kirsh interviews industry leaders to learn their real-time opinions on today's market, their background and unique career highlights, and guidance for newcomers to the industry.
Don't miss an episode of Real Talk:
Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3GT1hoM
Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OQrd6j
Andrew Kirsh is a founding partner of Sklar Kirsh LLP and is the Chair of the firm’s Real Estate Department. Sklar Kirsh LLP is a boutique law firm providing services in corporate law, real estate, entertainment, bankruptcy, and litigation.
Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkirsh/
Connect with Andrew on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/atkirsh
Visit Andrew's business website: https://www.sklarkirsh.com/professionals/andrew-t-kirsh
Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sklar-kirsh-llp/
Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sklarkirsh/

May 4, 2023 • 55min
An Insightful Conversation w/ Moses Kagan of Adaptive Realty & the Unofficial Czar of Real Twitter
For this week's #RealTalk podcast episode, I had an insightful conversation with Moses Kagan, Founder of Adaptive Realty and the Unofficial Czar of Real Twitter! Moses is also founder of Re-convene, the real estate private equity "un-conference".
We discuss:
His use of Twitter (and his 100,000+ growing followers) across his business platforms
He never quotes a projected IRR to his investors, as his goal is to never sell
The creation of Re-Convene which has become the go to “conferences” in the real estate industry
Adaptive Realty buys, renovates, and manages apartment buildings in improving areas of Los Angeles. Through Adaptive and predecessor entities, Moses has overseen the acquisition and renovation of more than 100 buildings in Los Angeles.
Learn more about and connect with Moses Kagan:
Connect with Moses on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/moses-kagan-2638ab2/
Follow Moses on Twitter: https://twitter.com/moseskagan
Visit Adaptive Realty's website: https://www.adaptiverealty.com/
Visit Re-convene's website and learn about the "un-conference" happening in September 2023: https://www.re-convene.com/
Read Moses' blog: https://kagansblog.com/
Join Moses' mailing list: https://kagansblog.com/mailing-list/
In each episode of Real Talk: Real Estate Discussions, Andrew Kirsh interviews industry leaders to learn their real-time opinions on today's market, their background and unique career highlights, and guidance for newcomers to the industry.
Don't miss an episode of Real Talk:
Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3GT1hoM
Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OQrd6j
Andrew Kirsh is a founding partner of Sklar Kirsh LLP and is the Chair of the firm’s Real Estate Department. Sklar Kirsh LLP is a boutique law firm providing services in corporate law, real estate, entertainment, bankruptcy, and litigation.
Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkirsh/
Connect with Andrew on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/atkirsh
Visit Andrew's business website: https://www.sklarkirsh.com/professionals/andrew-t-kirsh
Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sklar-kirsh-llp/
Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sklarkirsh/

Apr 27, 2023 • 49min
Providing Loans in Today’s Market w/ Brian Good, Founder and CEO of iBorrow, a Private Mortgage REIT
In this week's episode of #RealTalk, I talk with Brian Good, Founder and CEO of iBorrow, a Private Mortgage REIT. Brian has more than 25 years of experience in commercial real estate both on the equity and finance side. As CEO of iBorrow, Brian oversees the operations and investments of iBorrow, and serves on its Loan Committee.
Tune in to the episode to hear Brian and I discuss:
The types of loans iBorrow is making in today’s market
The term, rate, leverage of those loans
Critical tips on how a Borrower can enhance Lender cooperation during difficult times
iBorrow, made for entrepreneurs by entrepreneurs, is the most creative, efficient, versatile, and reliable commercial real estate lending provider in the market. iBorrow has a track record of over $1 billion; a talent for creative problem-solving, lending for all commercial property types. iBorrow is hailed as the borrower-first alternative to traditional commercial real estate lending.
Learn more and connect with Brian Good and iBorrow:
Visit iBorrow's website: https://iborrow.com/
Follow iBorrow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/iborrow/
Connect with Brian on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/briangoodiborrow/
In each episode of Real Talk: Real Estate Discussions, Andrew Kirsh interviews industry leaders to learn their real-time opinions on today's market, their background and unique career highlights, and guidance for newcomers to the industry.
Don't miss an episode of Real Talk:
Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3GT1hoM
Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OQrd6j
Andrew Kirsh is a founding partner of Sklar Kirsh LLP and is the Chair of the firm’s Real Estate Department. Sklar Kirsh LLP is a boutique law firm providing services in corporate law, real estate, entertainment, bankruptcy, and litigation.
Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkirsh/
Connect with Andrew on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/atkirsh
Visit Andrew's business website: https://www.sklarkirsh.com/professionals/andrew-t-kirsh
Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sklar-kirsh-llp/
Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sklarkirsh/

Apr 18, 2023 • 46min
Building Tesla Charging Stations and other NNN Retail with Hamo Rostamian, Founder of NetVested
In this week's episode of #RealTalk, I talk with Hamo Rostamian, Founder and Chief Executive Officer of NetVested Capital.
Tune in to the episode to hear Hamo and I discuss:
The interplay of real estate, transportation, technology and energy efficiency
How to build Electronic Vehicle Stations with traditional retail uses.
How childcare facilities are in demand but in under supply
NetVested Capital invests in real estate that is occupied by providers of daily needs and necessities; a fundamental philosophy that makes NetVested Opportunistic Fund and the DST Fund the preferred engine for wealth creation and preservation.
Learn more and connect with Hamo:
Visit the NetVested Capital website: https://netvested.com/
In each episode of Real Talk: Real Estate Discussions, Andrew Kirsh interviews industry leaders to learn their real-time opinions on today's market, their background and unique career highlights, and guidance for newcomers to the industry.
Don't miss an episode of Real Talk:
Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3GT1hoM
Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OQrd6j
Andrew Kirsh is a founding partner of Sklar Kirsh LLP and is the Chair of the firm’s Real Estate Department. Sklar Kirsh LLP is a boutique law firm providing services in corporate law, real estate, entertainment, bankruptcy, and litigation.
Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkirsh/
Connect with Andrew on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/atkirsh
Visit Andrew's business website: https://www.sklarkirsh.com/professionals/andrew-t-kirsh
Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sklar-kirsh-llp/
Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sklarkirsh/