
Real Talk: Real Estate Discussions with Andrew Kirsh
Welcome to Real Talk: Real Estate Discussions with Andrew Kirsh. In each episode of Real Talk, Andrew interviews industry leaders. We'll hear their real-time opinions on today's market, their background and unique career highlights, and guidance for newcomers to the industry.
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Sep 15, 2023 • 45min
The Godfather of Real Estate Podcasts, Chris Rising, Co-Founder and CEO of Rising Realty Partners
In this episode of Real Talk, we welcome The Godfather of Real Estate Podcasts, Chris Rising, Co-Founder and CEO of Rising Realty Partners.
Rising Realty Partners (RRP) is a Los Angeles-based real estate investment and operating platform that owns and manages over five million square feet of properties. Chris serves on the company’s Executive and Investment Committees, drawing on his extensive experience in managing acquisitions and creative development.
Tune in as we discuss:
Challenges in today’s office sector
How government policies have impacted CBD Office
Differences in lender behavior between the GFC and today
Finding opportunities in light industrial
Connect with Chris Rising:
Connect with Chris on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christopherrising/
Follow and listen to Chris' podcast, The Real Market With Chris Rising: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-real-market-with-chris-rising/id1354508748?mt=2\
Visit Rising Realty Partners' Website: https://risingrp.com/
Follow Rising Realty Partners on Twitter: https://twitter.com/risingrp
Subscribe to Rising Realty Partners' channel on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFigot7nbk0c7ZjYqOqyNxA
Follow Rising Realty Partners on Vimeo: https://vimeo.com/risingrealtypartners
Follow Rising Realty Partners on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/risingrp
Follow Rising Realty Partners on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/rising-realty-partner
Follow Rising Realty Partners on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/risingrealtypartners/
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In each episode of Real Talk: Real Estate Discussions, Andrew Kirsh interviews industry leaders to learn their real-time opinions on today's market, their background and unique career highlights, and guidance for newcomers to the industry.
Don't miss an episode of Real Talk:
Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3GT1hoM
Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OQrd6j
Listen on Anchor: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/andrew-kirsh2
Listen on Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/real-talk--real-estate-discussions-with-andrew-kirsh
Listen on Listen Notes: https://lnns.co/7ICHmPQyXnU
Andrew Kirsh is a founding partner of Sklar Kirsh LLP and is the Chair of the firm’s Real Estate Department. Sklar Kirsh LLP is a boutique law firm providing services in corporate law, real estate, entertainment, bankruptcy, and litigation.
Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkirsh/
Connect with Andrew on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/atkirsh
Visit Andrew's business website: https://www.sklarkirsh.com/professionals/andrew-t-kirsh
Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sklar-kirsh-llp/
Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sklarkirsh/

Aug 31, 2023 • 43min
Going International with Richard Benson, Managing Director of The Ardent Companies
In this week's episode of Real Talk, I have a conversation with Richard Benson, Managing Director of The Ardent Companies in the London office. He is responsible for deal origination, capital raising, and asset management for the UK operations.
We discuss:
* The overall real estate market in the UK
* How the office sector differs in London compared to large cities in the US
* How Americans and Brits need a dictionary in order to understand each other; and
* Ted Lasso!!
Connect with Richard Benson:
* Connect with Richard on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-benson-10b50817/
* Visit The Ardent Companies' Website: https://theardentcompanies.com/
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In each episode of Real Talk: Real Estate Discussions, Andrew Kirsh interviews industry leaders to learn their real-time opinions on today's market, their background and unique career highlights, and guidance for newcomers to the industry.
Don't miss an episode of Real Talk:
* Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3GT1hoM
* Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OQrd6j
* Listen on Anchor: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/andrew-kirsh2
* Listen on Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/real-talk--real-estate-discussions-with-andrew-kirsh
* Listen on Listen Notes: https://lnns.co/7ICHmPQyXnU
Andrew Kirsh is a founding partner of Sklar Kirsh LLP and is the Chair of the firm’s Real Estate Department. Sklar Kirsh LLP is a boutique law firm providing services in corporate law, real estate, entertainment, bankruptcy, and litigation.
* Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkirsh/
* Connect with Andrew on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/atkirsh
* Visit Andrew's business website: https://www.sklarkirsh.com/professionals/andrew-t-kirsh
* Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sklar-kirsh-llp/
* Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sklarkirsh/

Aug 23, 2023 • 40min
How to Make Money in Today’s Office Market with Bob Ruth, the Founder of The Ruth Group
In this week's episode of Real Talk, I have a conversation with Bob Ruth, the Founder and President of The Ruth Group.
The Ruth Group is a Southern California based full-service commercial real estate investor, owner, and operator focused on the West Coast and Southern Florida. Our senior management team has decades of institutional investment management experience, with specialized capabilities including acquisitions, repositioning, development, property management, leasing, and accessing the capital markets.
We discuss:
The key ingredients to having a successful office project
The top office markets in the country
Whether it’s realistic for office buildings to be converted into residential use
Connect with Bob:
Connect with Bob on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bob-ruth-aa9a946/
Visit The Ruth Group's website: https://www.trgpartners.com/
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In each episode of Real Talk: Real Estate Discussions, Andrew Kirsh interviews industry leaders to learn their real-time opinions on today's market, their background and unique career highlights, and guidance for newcomers to the industry.
Don't miss an episode of Real Talk:
Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3GT1hoM
Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OQrd6j
Listen on Anchor: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/andrew-kirsh2
Listen on Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/real-talk--real-estate-discussions-with-andrew-kirsh
Listen on Listen Notes: https://lnns.co/7ICHmPQyXnU
Andrew Kirsh is a founding partner of Sklar Kirsh LLP and is the Chair of the firm’s Real Estate Department. Sklar Kirsh LLP is a boutique law firm providing services in corporate law, real estate, entertainment, bankruptcy, and litigation.
Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkirsh/
Connect with Andrew on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/atkirsh
Visit Andrew's business website: https://www.sklarkirsh.com/professionals/andrew-t-kirsh
Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sklar-kirsh-llp/
Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sklarkirsh/

Aug 17, 2023 • 46min
Real Estate Investing by Leveraging Technology with Todd Hanson, Managing Director of RM Communities
In this week's episode of Real Talk, I have a conversation with Todd Hanson, Managing Director of RM Communities.
RM Communities is the direct acquisition vehicle of Realty Mogul. The RealtyMogul approach blends personalized service, proven business discipline and data-driven insights. This allows Members to create their own real estate portfolios — diversifying their holdings with investments in individual properties and Real Estate Investment Trusts (“REITs”).
Connect with Todd:
Connect with Todd on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/todd-hanson-31b6b05/
Visit Realty Mogul's website: https://www.realtymogul.com/
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In each episode of Real Talk: Real Estate Discussions, Andrew Kirsh interviews industry leaders to learn their real-time opinions on today's market, their background and unique career highlights, and guidance for newcomers to the industry.
Don't miss an episode of Real Talk:
Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3GT1hoM
Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OQrd6j
Listen on Anchor: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/andrew-kirsh2
Listen on Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/real-talk--real-estate-discussions-with-andrew-kirsh
Listen on Listen Notes: https://lnns.co/7ICHmPQyXnU
Andrew Kirsh is a founding partner of Sklar Kirsh LLP and is the Chair of the firm’s Real Estate Department. Sklar Kirsh LLP is a boutique law firm providing services in corporate law, real estate, entertainment, bankruptcy, and litigation.
Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkirsh/
Connect with Andrew on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/atkirsh
Visit Andrew's business website: https://www.sklarkirsh.com/professionals/andrew-t-kirsh
Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sklar-kirsh-llp/
Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sklarkirsh/

Aug 2, 2023 • 43min
Institutional Construction Management with Colby Durnin, Founder and CEO of CREDE
In this week's episode of Real Talk, I have a conversation with Colby Durnin, Founder and CEO of CREDE (Commercial Real Estate Development Enterprises).
We discuss:
How to effectively build a national company providing construction management services
How his perspective as a fee service provider has assisted in building an owner/operator portfolio
Why he prefers extreme sports as business development activities over golf or going to a sporting event
Learn more and connect with Colby:
Visit CREDE's website: https://www.credegroup.com/
Connect with Colby on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/colby-durnin-63a9a24
In each episode of Real Talk: Real Estate Discussions, Andrew Kirsh interviews industry leaders to learn their real-time opinions on today's market, their background and unique career highlights, and guidance for newcomers to the industry.
Don't miss an episode of Real Talk:
Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3GT1hoM
Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OQrd6j
Listen on Anchor: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/andrew-kirsh2
Listen on Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/real-talk--real-estate-discussions-with-andrew-kirsh
Listen on Listen Notes: https://lnns.co/7ICHmPQyXnU
Andrew Kirsh is a founding partner of Sklar Kirsh LLP and is the Chair of the firm’s Real Estate Department. Sklar Kirsh LLP is a boutique law firm providing services in corporate law, real estate, entertainment, bankruptcy, and litigation.
Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkirsh/
Connect with Andrew on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/atkirsh
Visit Andrew's business website: https://www.sklarkirsh.com/professionals/andrew-t-kirsh
Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sklar-kirsh-llp/
Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sklarkirsh/

Jul 25, 2023 • 49min
Building a Baseball and Logistics Real Estate Dynasty with Brett Dedeaux, Principal of Dedeaux Properties
In this week's episode of Real Talk, I have a conversation with Brett Dedeaux, Principal of Dedeaux Properties.
We discuss:
How Brett’s grandfather, Rod Dedeaux, led USC’s baseball team to 11 National Titles and coached two Olympic Baseball teams, and at the same time founded a logistics trucking business that still operates today
Building Dedeaux Properties into one of the most active developers and investors in logistics-oriented industrial real estate in Southern California
Thru the Dedeaux Foundation, Brett’s philanthropic efforts have significantly improved the lives of many underprivileged kids in LA
Incorporating modern wellness technologies into his office and business culture
Learn more and connect with Brett:
Visit the website: https://dedeauxproperties.com/
Connect with Brett on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brett-dedeaux-1496a5/
In each episode of Real Talk: Real Estate Discussions, Andrew Kirsh interviews industry leaders to learn their real-time opinions on today's market, their background and unique career highlights, and guidance for newcomers to the industry.
Don't miss an episode of Real Talk:
Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3GT1hoM
Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OQrd6j
Listen on Anchor: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/andrew-kirsh2
Listen on Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/real-talk--real-estate-discussions-with-andrew-kirsh
Listen on Listen Notes: https://lnns.co/7ICHmPQyXnU
Andrew Kirsh is a founding partner of Sklar Kirsh LLP and is the Chair of the firm’s Real Estate Department. Sklar Kirsh LLP is a boutique law firm providing services in corporate law, real estate, entertainment, bankruptcy, and litigation.
Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkirsh/
Connect with Andrew on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/atkirsh
Visit Andrew's business website: https://www.sklarkirsh.com/professionals/andrew-t-kirsh
Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sklar-kirsh-llp/
Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sklarkirsh/

Jun 29, 2023 • 41min
Insider's Perspective on the Real Estate Lending Market with Warren de Haan, Co-CEO of ACORE Capital
In this week's episode of #RealTalk, I have a conversation with Warren de Haan, Co-CEO of ACORE Capital, one of the largest non-bank private lenders in the country with over $21 billion under management.
Tune in to the episode to hear Warren and I discuss:
Macro-economic challenges facing the real estate industry
The concern he has with the future of regional banks
The keys to working with a lender during turbulent times
Learn more and connect with Warren:
Visit the website: https://www.acorecapital.com/
Connect with Warren on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/warren-de-haan-7465a3b9/
In each episode of Real Talk: Real Estate Discussions, Andrew Kirsh interviews industry leaders to learn their real-time opinions on today's market, their background and unique career highlights, and guidance for newcomers to the industry.
Don't miss an episode of Real Talk:
Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3GT1hoM
Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OQrd6j
Listen on Anchor: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/andrew-kirsh2
Listen on Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/real-talk--real-estate-discussions-with-andrew-kirsh
Listen on Listen Notes: https://lnns.co/7ICHmPQyXnU
Andrew Kirsh is a founding partner of Sklar Kirsh LLP and is the Chair of the firm’s Real Estate Department. Sklar Kirsh LLP is a boutique law firm providing services in corporate law, real estate, entertainment, bankruptcy, and litigation.
Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkirsh/
Connect with Andrew on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/atkirsh
Visit Andrew's business website: https://www.sklarkirsh.com/professionals/andrew-t-kirsh
Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sklar-kirsh-llp/
Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sklarkirsh/

Jun 24, 2023 • 50min
From Flipping Houses to Building 400 Unit Apartment Buildings with Paul Schon and Artem Tepler
In this week's episode of #RealTalk, I have a conversation with Paul Schon and Artem Tepler, Co-founders of Schon Tepler.
Schon Tepler Group is a vertically integrated, full-service real estate investment, development, construction and property management firm focused on ground up development of multi-family residential properties throughout Southern California. Schon Tepler Group is privately held, and headquartered in Los Angeles, California.
Tune in to the episode to hear Paul, Artem and I discuss:
* How to go from filling houses to building Class A apartment buildings
* The key metrics to utilize when evaluating development deals
* How they settle their internal disputes in the jujitsu ring
Learn more and connect with Paul and Artem:
* Visit the website: https://www.schontepler.com/
* Connect with Paul Schon on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-schon-b3205419/
* Connect with Artem Tepler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/artemtepler/
In each episode of Real Talk: Real Estate Discussions, Andrew Kirsh interviews industry leaders to learn their real-time opinions on today's market, their background and unique career highlights, and guidance for newcomers to the industry.
Don't miss an episode of Real Talk:
* Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3GT1hoM
* Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OQrd6j
Andrew Kirsh is a founding partner of Sklar Kirsh LLP and is the Chair of the firm’s Real Estate Department. Sklar Kirsh LLP is a boutique law firm providing services in corporate law, real estate, entertainment, bankruptcy, and litigation.
* Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkirsh/
* Connect with Andrew on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/atkirsh
* Visit Andrew's business website: https://www.sklarkirsh.com/professionals/andrew-t-kirsh
* Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sklar-kirsh-llp/
* Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sklarkirsh/

Jun 14, 2023 • 41min
Developing Life Science Real Estate with Doug Lozier, Chief Investment Officer of GeneSuites
In this week's episode of #RealTalk, I have a conversation with Doug Lozier, Chief Investment Officer of GeneSuites.
GeneSuites provides cGMP manufacturing infrastructure procurement, design and construction expertise to the Life Science and Pharmaceutical industries, focused on cGMP manufacturing facility global site selection, process and facility design, CAPEX interior improvement budgets and funding. The GeneSuites platform assists clients in the process development, preclinical, clinical, and commercial stages of cGMP manufacturing strategic planning and execution, uniquely combining real estate and industry cGMP technical expertise.
Tune in to the episode to hear Doug and I discuss:
Life science real estate asset class
What it takes to build out facilities for biotech companies and pharmaceutical companies
The next geographical locations that he predicts will be hotbeds for life science
Learn more and connect with Doug:
Visit the GeneSuites website: https://www.genesuites.com/
Follow GeneSuites on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/genesuites/
Connect with Doug on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/douglas-lozier-8b6a431a/
In each episode of Real Talk: Real Estate Discussions, Andrew Kirsh interviews industry leaders to learn their real-time opinions on today's market, their background and unique career highlights, and guidance for newcomers to the industry.
Don't miss an episode of Real Talk:
* Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3GT1hoM
* Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OQrd6j
Andrew Kirsh is a founding partner of Sklar Kirsh LLP and is the Chair of the firm’s Real Estate Department. Sklar Kirsh LLP is a boutique law firm providing services in corporate law, real estate, entertainment, bankruptcy, and litigation.
Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkirsh/
Connect with Andrew on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/atkirsh
Visit Andrew's business website: https://www.sklarkirsh.com/professionals/andrew-t-kirsh
Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sklar-kirsh-llp/
Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sklarkirsh/

May 24, 2023 • 41min
Crowdfunding Real Estate Deals with Dan Rosenbloom, Chief Investment Officer of Cadre
In this week's episode of #RealTalk, I talk with Dan Rosenbloom, Chief Investment Officer of Cadre.
Cadre is a groundbreaking technology-driven commercial real estate investment platform that offers both institutional and individual investors the opportunity to access expertly curated real estate assets with lower minimums, low fees, and unprecedented potential for liquidity. Via its data-driven and transparent approach, Cadre opens participation in a historically opaque and illiquid asset class.
Since Cadre’s founding, Cadre has closed more than $5 billion in real estate transactions across 25 U.S. markets. Cadre has exited thirteen investments with an approximate 27.5% targeted realized average net IRR and in total has returned approximately $340 million of capital to Cadre investors to date.
Tune in to the episode to hear Dan and I discuss:
How Cadre is trying to revolutionize the commercial real estate investing world with its crowdfunding platform
How Cadre is the unofficial “J-Date” or “Tinder” of real estate investing thru their quarterly liquidity offering
How Cadre differentiates themselves with their $250 million balance sheet to take down deals before they syndicate to the public
Learn more and connect with Dan:
Visit Cadre’s website: https://cadre.com/
Follow Cadre on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/cadrere/
Connect with Dan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-rosenbloom-10a8912/
In each episode of Real Talk: Real Estate Discussions, Andrew Kirsh interviews industry leaders to learn their real-time opinions on today's market, their background and unique career highlights, and guidance for newcomers to the industry.
Don't miss an episode of Real Talk:
Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3GT1hoM
Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OQrd6j
Andrew Kirsh is a founding partner of Sklar Kirsh LLP and is the Chair of the firm’s Real Estate Department. Sklar Kirsh LLP is a boutique law firm providing services in corporate law, real estate, entertainment, bankruptcy, and litigation.
Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkirsh/
Connect with Andrew on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/atkirsh
Visit Andrew's business website: https://www.sklarkirsh.com/professionals/andrew-t-kirsh
Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sklar-kirsh-llp/
Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sklarkirsh/