
Let's Talk Loyalty
“Let’s Talk Loyalty” is an industry podcast for loyalty marketing professionals.
If you work in loyalty marketing, join us every week to learn the latest ideas and marketing insights from loyalty specialists around the world.
Check out our website on: http://www.letstalkloyalty.com/
Latest episodes

Apr 9, 2024 • 19min
#520: Avoid Tears by Properly Utilizing Program Tiers
Bill Hanifin and Aaron Dauphinee from the Loyalty Academy are back with another episode of the "Wiser Loyalty" podcast series. They continue exploring Key Success Factors in Loyalty Marketing (course #112) from the Loyalty Academy™ curriculum. In this week’s episode, Bill and Aaron, lean into the importance of understanding that all customers shouldn’t be treated the same and the success that can come in doing this through the utilization of program tiers (in various forms).In the Wiser Loyalty series, Bill and Aaron draw a theme each month based on the courses required to earn the Certified Loyalty Marketing Professional™ (CLMP™) designation and this is now the third month of this global loyalty education series.Show Notes:1) Aaron Dauphinee2) Bill Hanifin3) The Wise Marketer

Apr 4, 2024 • 42min
#519: Loyalty Lessons ex Starbucks USA – Joy Das Gupta
Joy Das Gupta, loyalty consultant from Starbucks, discusses loyalty marketing strategies, sustainability in programs, coffee rewards, evolution of loyalty, and importance of consumer behavior in loyalty programs.

Apr 3, 2024 • 49min
#518: Rewarding Financial Wellness: The Evolution of Old Mutual Rewards
Brett Cameron is the Managing Director of Old Mutual Rewards.Unlike many loyalty programmes, Old Mutual Rewards focuses primarily on incentivising members to take care of their financial wellbeing. With over 2 million members and a staggering 5 billion points earned (equivalent to R500 million / $25 million), the programme has made a significant impact. Notably, the programme isn't exclusive to Old Mutual customers; it's open to all South Africans and has recently expanded into Namibia with the commitment to offer practical solutions that help members achieve their financial aspirations.In this captivating podcast, Brett guides us through the five-year evolution of Old Mutual Rewards, delving into prevalent topics such as fraud incidents affecting loyalty programs in the industry, the direct correlation between digitisation and programme engagement levels, and the promising future of Old Mutual Rewards.Hosted by Amanda Cromhout Show Notes:1) Brett Cameron2) Old Mutual Rewards South Africa3) Old Mutual Rewards Namibia

Apr 2, 2024 • 19min
#517: The First Key to Success is the Making of Members
Join loyalty experts Bill Hanifin and Aaron Dauphinee as they delve into the key success factors of loyalty marketing. They discuss program member enrollment, known enablers, and the components of creating customer loyalty successfully. The podcast is part of the Wiser Loyalty series, focusing on courses from the Loyalty Academy curriculum.

Mar 27, 2024 • 48min
#516: Meliá Rewards Celebrates It's 30th Anniversary
Today’s episode is available in both audio and video format, as the "Let's Talk Loyalty" podcast and on www.Loyalty TV. We’re back in the hotel industry today with Meliá Hotels International, a Spanish hospitality group founded in 1956 in Mallorca (Spain). Melia Hotels is one of the leading companies in resort hotels worldwide. It was the first hotel company in Europe to go public in 1996, and the Group was also named the most sustainable hotel company worldwide in the last S&P Global Corporate Sustainability Assessment.Melia Hotels launched its first loyalty proposition for guests 30 years ago, so 2024 represents a year of celebration, evolution and further expansion. Joining us today to share their journey is Sara Matarrubia, the Global Loyalty Director for Meliá Rewards. I hope you enjoy our conversation.Show Notes:1) Meliá Hotels International2) Sara Matarrubia3) Meliá Rewards4) Watch the full interview episode at www.Loyalty TV

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Mar 26, 2024 • 41min
#515: 2024 Consumer Trends Index with Marigold's Wendy Werve
Join Wendy Werve, CMO of Marigold, as she discusses the 2024 Consumer Trends Index and how consumer preferences are changing regarding marketing channels. Learn about the importance of privacy, brand loyalty, and the evolving role of personalization in marketing to build authentic brand communities and enhance customer loyalty.

Mar 25, 2024 • 17min
#514: A New World Order to Categorize Loyalty Business Models
This "Wiser Loyalty" podcast wraps up discussions during March that guest hosts Bill Hanifin and Aaron Dauphinee had about Loyalty Business Models.Breaking away from the Proprietary/Player/Coalition nomenclature that has been used for years, Bill and Aaron redefine the Loyalty Business Model classifications based on a more customer centric view. They land on an approach that reflects the reality of the programs they have been observing in the market.The Wiser Loyalty series showcases a theme each month based on the courses required to earn the Certified Loyalty Marketing Professional™ (CLMP™) designation, featuring the latest thinking on customer loyalty, backed up by market examples. Next Month’s topic: Key Performance Indicators.Show Notes:1) Aaron Dauphinee2) Bill Hanifin3) The Wise Marketer

Mar 20, 2024 • 41min
#513: Cathay Pacific Airways Updates Its Loyalty Positioning and Proposition
This episode is available in audio as a podcast and in video format on Loyalty TV. Today we learn the latest loyalty and lifestyle propositions from the Cathay Pacific Group, with Paul Smitton joining us once again from Hong Kong.Listen to learn how the positioning and proposition for the membership program from Cathay Pacific has evolved, and the role of Asia Miles now as its currency (rather than its programme name).Paul also shares some insights into some of the airline’s most recent developments in the Chinese market.Show Notes:1) Paul Smitton2) Cathay Pacific Group3) Asia Miles4) Watch the full interview episode at www.Loyalty.TV

Mar 19, 2024 • 51min
#512: What Brits want from Loyalty Programmes 4.0
The launch of the 4th edition of ‘What Brits want from Loyalty Programmes 4.0’ does not disappoint. This Let’s Talk Loyalty podcast talks to three deeply experienced professionals about this whitepaper. Amanda Cromhout talks to Charlie Hills,Chief Strategy Officer and James Davies, Senior Strategist and Analyst, both from Mando Connect. They are accompanied by Nick Fishbourne, Group Account Director of YouGov. Key highlights include the increased usage of loyalty by Brits ad a deeper usage in terms of activity rates. There is also an increased play on loyalty partnerships benefiting consumers and brands alike. The whitepaper also serves up quality statistics around transactional KPIs and emotional KPIs.Show Notes:1) Charlie Hills2) James Davies3) Nick Fishbourne4) Mando Connect5) YouGov6) What Brits want from Loyalty Programmes 4.0

Mar 18, 2024 • 18min
#511: Redefining Loyalty Business Models in 2024
The "Wiser Loyalty" podcast series unpacks the most important things you need to know about the Foundations of Loyalty, grounded in the Loyalty Academy™ Courses. In today’s episode, guest hosts Bill Hanifin and Aaron Dauphinee take a deeper look at how the Proprietary model is taking on new meaning and why “Partnerships” may be a replacement for the Player Model, reflecting the way business is operating today and to better serve the needs of today’s consumer.The Wiser Loyalty series showcases a theme each month based on the courses required to earn the Certified Loyalty Marketing Professional™ (CLMP™) designation, featuring the latest thinking on customer loyalty, backed up by market examples. Show Notes:1) Aaron Dauphinee2) Bill Hanifin3) The Wise Marketer