

Grow Your B2B SaaS
Joran Hofman
We will discuss everything on growing your B2B SaaS, hosted by Joran Hofman, Founder of Reditus.
When growing your B2B SaaS you run into a lot of things; we will cover how to generate your first-paying clients, achieve product-market fit, create a go-to-market plan, and more in-depth information about any marketing channel. Or, when thinking about funding, we will cover bootstrapped stories to fund your SaaS with external money.
As Joran is a founder himself of a B2B SaaS, he will ask the questions for you.
B2B SaaS, SaaS, Grow My SaaS, SaaS Advice, SaaS founder, SaaS podcast.
When growing your B2B SaaS you run into a lot of things; we will cover how to generate your first-paying clients, achieve product-market fit, create a go-to-market plan, and more in-depth information about any marketing channel. Or, when thinking about funding, we will cover bootstrapped stories to fund your SaaS with external money.
As Joran is a founder himself of a B2B SaaS, he will ask the questions for you.
B2B SaaS, SaaS, Grow My SaaS, SaaS Advice, SaaS founder, SaaS podcast.
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Aug 19, 2025 • 44min
S7E5 - B2B SaaS Sales Growth: Outbound Strategies to Scale Revenue with Joey Gilkey
Joey Gilkey, CEO of Titan X, specializes in helping companies boost their connect rates through effective outbound sales strategies. He dives into the critical differences between outbound and inbound sales, emphasizing trust-building as a cornerstone of success. Joey shares insights on transitioning from a services model to B2B SaaS, the importance of personalized outreach, and mastering strategic conversations. He also discusses the changing dynamics of B2B sales, highlighting how technology can enhance connection rates and the need for sales teams to adapt.

Aug 12, 2025 • 45min
S7E4 - Why Your SaaS GTM Isn’t Working And How to Fix It with Operational Discipline with Garrath Robinson
Are you wondering why Your SaaS GTM Isn’t Working, And How to Fix It with Operational Discipline? In today’s competitive business environment, success depends not just on great products, but on how effectively you bring them to market. Yet, many companies struggle with go-to-market (GTM) strategies that fall apart under pressure. Why? Because marketing and sales often operate in silos, pulling in different directions instead of working as a unified force. Think of it this way: marketing should act as the recon team, gathering intelligence, identifying opportunities, and setting the stage. Sales, on the other hand, is the strike team—responsible for execution and closing. When these two functions are misaligned or overloaded with conflicting motions, the result is confusion, inefficiency, and missed revenue. In this episode of the Grow Your B2B SaaS Podcast, Joran Hofman sits down with Head of GTM Garrath Robinson to explore why most GTM strategies fail—and how a disciplined, military-inspired approach can help businesses stay focused, aligned, and ready to win. This episode is brought to you buy SaaStock.As a valued listener of the Grow Your B2B SaaS podcast, we’ve got something special for you! As a valued participant, you have the exclusive opportunity to get a 30% discount on tickets to SaaStock Europe this October - the leading conference for AI & SaaS founders, investors, and leaders.Key Timecodes(0:00) – The Battlefield of Business(1:12) – Meet Garrath Robinson: From Combat Veteran to Growth Architect(1:39) – GTM Gone Wrong: Real-World Horror Stories(5:52) – What Is a Go-To-Market Motion, Really?(7:17) – When Motions Collide(8:33) – Leadership Fails and GTM Breakdown(13:26) – Inside the Strike Operating System(19:51) – Signal Calibration: Finding What Really Moves the Needle(22:47) – Marketing 2.0: From Arts & Crafts to Operational Powerhouse(26:09) – Avoiding the GTM Trap: Common Pitfalls to Watch For(31:43) – Give It Time: The Patience Behind Real Transformation(33:16) – The People Behind the Process(35:12) – Garrath’s Golden Rule: Discipline Over Dollars(36:41) – Building the Future: Gut Instinct, Fundamentals, and Human Connection(39:33) – Scaling Revenue: From 0 to $10K MRR and Beyond(44:15) – Wrapping Up: Key Takeaways + Connect with Garrath Robinson

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Aug 12, 2025 • 37min
S7E1 - How to Build SaaS Partnerships That Actually Drive Revenue with KaraLynn Lewis
KaraLynn Lewis, a Fractional GTM & Partnerships Leader, shares her expertise in building successful SaaS partnerships. She discusses the common pitfalls that lead to partnership failures and the importance of mutual value creation. KaraLynn explains the different types of partnerships, including referral and affiliate models, and offers actionable strategies for establishing effective partner programs. She emphasizes the significance of accountability and understanding partner goals to foster enduring relationships that drive revenue.

Aug 5, 2025 • 43min
S7E3 - Building SaaS Partnerships That Actually Drive Revenue with Hugo Pereira
Scaling a SaaS startup isn’t just about product-market fit or revenue numbers, it's about people, culture, and leadership. In this episode of the Grow Your B2B SaaS podcast, host Joran Hofman sits down with Hugo Pereira, the Co-founder of Ritmoo and author of Teams in Hell: How to End Bad Management, to discuss ways of building SaaS partnerships that actually drive revenue.If you’ve ever wondered why some startups skyrocket to $100 million ARR while others stall at $1 million, the difference often lies in what happens behind the scenes. Hugo has helped scale multiple companies and has seen it all the pitfalls, the patterns, and the principles that actually work. In this episode, brought to you by SaaStock, Hugo shares hard-earned insights for founders who want to scale with clarity, not chaos.As a valued listener of the Grow Your B2B SaaS podcast, we’ve got something special for you! As a valued participant, you have the exclusive opportunity to get a 30% discount on tickets to SaaStock Europe this October - the leading conference for AI & SaaS founders, investors, and leaders.Key Timecodes(0:00) - Introduction: Building Structure in Startups and the Importance of Customer Feedback(1:00) - Episode Overview: What SaaS Companies Fail to Do in Culture and Team Dynamics(1:10) - Guest Introduction: Hugo Pereira, Co-founder of Rytmo and Author of "Teams in Hell"(1:35) - Scaling Experience: Helping Companies Grow from $1 Million to $100 Million in Revenue(2:05) - Story of Startup Failure: Culture and Team Challenges in a B2B SaaS Company(3:14) - Founding Team Impact: Old-School Mindsets and Lack of Customer Validation(4:23) - Realities of Startup Culture: Authority-Driven Environments and Their Effects(5:40) - Importance of Early Culture: Building Trust vs. Toxicity from Day Zero(6:39) - Defining Culture: Values, Behaviors, Rituals, and Systems in an Organization(8:03) - Common Failures in Scaling: Process Breakdowns, Founder Control, Lack of Alignment(9:24) - Complexity of Scaling: Need for Structure and Clear Ownership in Growing Teams(11:27) - Misconceptions of Growth: Confusing Traction with Understanding and Clarity(12:06) - The Evolution of Startups: From Hustle to Frameworks and Repeatable Systems(13:38) - Importance of Alignment: The Why Now Story and Trust Building in Teams(14:56) - Customer Ties: The Role of Deep Customer Relationships in Scaling Success(17:57) - Feedback and Misalignment: Warning Signs of Cultural and Team Misalignment(19:20) - Remote Work Challenges: Maintaining Alignment and Feedback in Hybrid Setups(21:23) - Hero Culture Warning: Overworking and Glorifying Output without Results(22:00) - Scaling Trust and Accountability: Shared Expectations and Frequent Feedback(25:03) - Feedback Loops: Formal and Informal Check-Ins to Foster Open Communication(28:59) - Leadership Pitfalls: Behaviors That Can Kill Morale and Momentum(32:17) - Best Advice for SaaS Founders: Never Lose Sight of Your Initial Why(33:38) - Future of SaaS: Preparing for Slower Deal Cycles and Community Engagement(35:27) - Advice for Early-Stage SaaS: Prioritize Conversations Over Conversions(36:55) - Scaling to 10 Million ARR: Focus on Repeatable Motions and Community Building(41:15) - Where to Find Hugo's Book: "Teams in Hell" Available on Amazon

Jul 22, 2025 • 38min
S7E2 - Why 80% of Outbound Sales Fails, and how to Fix It with Besnik Vrellaku
Why 80% of Outbound Sales Fails, and how to Fix It? Outbound sales is one of the most powerful yet misunderstood channels for SaaS growth. Despite the growing popularity of automation tools and AI-driven messaging, most outbound efforts still fall flat. In this episode of the Grow Your B2B SaaS Podcast, Joran Hofman interviews Besnik Vrellaku, founder of SalesFlow.io, to dissect exactly why outbound often underperforms and more importantly, how founders can fix it. Whether you're a SaaS startup trying to land your first 50 customers or a scaling team looking to build a repeatable outbound engine, this conversation delivers practical, no-nonsense insights you can use immediately. Besnik shares what’s broken in most outbound strategies, the mindset shift founders must adopt, the real economics behind outbound success, and how tools like AI and intent data are changing the game in 2025. If you’ve ever asked yourself “Does outbound still work?” this episode gives you the honest, data-backed answer.Key Timestamps(0:00) – Episode intro by Joran Hofman(0:52) – Guest intro: Besnik Vreljaku(1:32) – Icebreaker: "Worst cold outreach fail you’ve seen?"(3:11) – Does outbound still work? (Spoiler: Yes, but it’s evolving)(4:25) – Why SaaS founders should care about outbound (esp. bootstrapped)(6:10) – Case study: Niche ICPs (e.g., affiliate program migration)(7:40) – #1 Mistake: Low AOV (< $5K) → Hard to scale(9:57) – Solution: Start with high-ACV customers(10:39) – ACV vs. AOV: What’s the difference?(12:07) – Step 1: Choose the right tool (Security > shiny features)(14:13) – Step 2: Niche down ICPs + use social proof(14:38) – Step 3: Hyper-personalization (Custom variables > generic)(16:45) – Pro tip: Use AI (Claude, Warmly) for data enrichment(17:48) – Avoid fake personalization (e.g., fake logos)(20:04) – SalesFlow's benchmark: 35% reply rates(21:47) – Rejections: "No" is the start of the conversation(26:07) – Future trend: First-party data + AI prospecting(27:49) – Why LinkedIn > Email (email deliverability drop)(29:02) – $0–$10K MRR: Validate with outbound interviews or paid ads(30:48) – $10K–$10M ARR: Bet on people + brand momentum(32:12) – Expect compromises: AI competitors, pricing pressure(34:39) – Recap of key takeaways(36:19) – Connect with Besnik

Jul 10, 2025 • 42min
S6E22 - How to grow your B2B SaaS to 10M ARR? Advice from 20 experts
What does it really take to grow from $10K MRR to $10M ARR? That leap isn’t just big; it’s transformative. It marks the shift from being a scrappy startup to becoming a high-growth, scalable SaaS business with a repeatable revenue engine.In Season 6 of the Grow Your B2B SaaS Podcast, Joran Hofman, founder of Reditus, sat down with 20 industry experts: founders, operators, and advisors who have either made this leap themselves or helped others do it. Together, they explored what it really takes to scale successfully.In this special episode, we’ve compiled all 20 answers into one insight-packed session you can absorb in just 30 to 40 minutes. If you’re serious about scaling, this isn’t just worth your time; it could change your entire growth trajectory. Don’t miss it.Season 6 full episodesEpisode 1: Kristi Faltorusso on Customer SuccessEpisode 2: Aaron Ross on Predictable RevenueEpisode 3: Clark Barron on Demand Gen StrategyEpisode 4: Pablo Assensio on Product-Led GrowthEpisode 5: Peter Loving on UX and RevenueEpisode 6: Tom Shapiro on SEO for SaaSEpisode 7: Mina Golesorkhi on SaaS HiringEpisode 8: Johnny Staker on SaaS Growth StrategiesEpisode 9: Elliott Rayner on Strategic StorytellingEpisode 10: Craig Brown on ICP and MessagingEpisode 11: Ben Murray on Financial StrategyEpisode 12: Nicolas Calabrese on International ExpansionEpisode 13: Kevin Lems on SaaS Pricing in the AI EraEpisode 14: Ramly John on Onboarding StrategiesEpisode 15: Patrick Cumming on Paid AdsEpisode 16: Zoltan Vardy on Founder-Led SalesEpisode 17: Alexander Estner on Go-To-Market PlaybookEpisode 18: Frank Sonders on Go-To-Market StrategyEpisode 19: Ezean and Oji Odeze on Product Management Lessons

Jul 8, 2025 • 31min
S6E21 – How to grow your B2B SaaS to 10K MRR? Advice from 20 experts
Are you a SaaS founder struggling to hit your first $10K in MRR? You’re not alone it’s the first major hurdle every SaaS founder faces: proving your product, landing real customers, and building traction. In Season 6 of the The Grow B2B SaaS podcast, Joran Hofaman spoke to 20 successful SaaS founders and experts who’ve been through it, and at the end of each interview, He asked them one question: “What’s your best advice for reaching $10K MRR?” This episode brings all their answers together into one powerful, no-fluff summary and before each expert speaks, he'll tell you which episode they’re from so you can check out their full story. If you’re growing a SaaS, this episode is packed with the insights you wish you had months ago.Key Timecodes(1:07) - Episode 1: Kristi Faltorusso on Customer Success(2:35) - Episode 2: Aaron Ross on Predictable Revenue(5:11) - Episode 3: Clark Barron on Demand Gen Strategy(6:20) - Episode 4: Pablo Assensio on Product-Led Growth(7:44) - Episode 5: Peter Loving on UX and Revenue(9:04) - Episode 6: Tom Shapiro on SEO for SaaS(10:29) - Episode 7: Mina Golesorkhi on SaaS Hiring(12:59) - Episode 8: Johnny Staker on SaaS Growth Strategies(14:12) - Episode 9: Elliott Rayner on Strategic Storytelling(16:42) - Episode 10: Craig Brown on ICP and Messaging(18:56) - Episode 11: Ben Murray on Financial Strategy(20:05) - Episode 12: Nicolas Calabrese on International Expansion(22:33) - Episode 13: Kevin Lems on SaaS Pricing in the AI Era(24:21) - Episode 14: Ramly John on Onboarding Strategies(26:09) - Episode 15: Patrick Cumming on Paid Ads(28:19) - Episode 16: Zoltan Vardy on Founder-Led Sales(29:36) - Episode 17: Alexander Estner on Go-To-Market Playbook(30:55) - Episode 18: Frank Sonders on Go-To-Market Strategy(32:12) - Episode 19: Ezean and Oji Odeze on Product Management Lessons

Jul 1, 2025 • 55min
S6E20 - Scaling Product, Scaling SaaS: Product Management Lessons from $0 to $100M+ with Oji Udezue and Ezinne Udezue.
What does it take to scale a B2B SaaS company from zero to $100 million in ARR? In the final episode of Season 6 of the Grow Your B2B SaaS Podcast, we explore this big question with two standout guests: Oji and Ezinne Udezue. They’ve worked with top tech companies like Typeform, WP Engine, and Twitter. They also co-wrote Building Rocketships: Product Management for High-Growth Companies. Beyond their resumes, they bring a unique perspective as a married couple with 20 years of partnership, both in life and in product leadership. This episode is full of sharp insights and practical strategies for anyone looking to build and grow successful SaaS products.Key Timecodes(0:00) - Knowing Your Ideal Customer Profile(0:09) - Most Important Task for Founders(0:59) - Closing Off Season 6 with a Bang(1:46) - Guest Welcome(1:53) - Diving Into Product Management(2:02) - Product Management as a Craft(3:19) - The Importance of Sharp Problems(4:44) - Why SaaS Founders Need Product Management(6:22) - Founders Thinking as Product Managers(7:54) - Misconceptions in Product Management(8:32) - Admin Layer of Product Management(9:27) - AI's Role in Product Management(10:19) - Calculated Decisions and Customer Needs(10:52) - AI as a Tool, Not a Replacement(11:13) - Scaling from Zero to $100 Million ARR(12:29) - Finding a Sharp Problem(13:46) - Sharpening Your ICP(16:05) - Building and Refining Your Product(18:13) - Signals Before Investing in Growth(19:38) - The Fundamentals of Product-Market Fit(20:36) - Creating a Unicorn vs. a Small Business(22:32) - Product Strategy Across Revenue Stages(25:41) - Strategic Moats and Distribution(26:11) - What is Product-Market Fit?(27:18) - Customer Investment as a Sign of Fit(28:23) - Phases of Growth in SaaS(30:56) - Virality vs. Network Effects(32:54) - When to Think About Virality and Network Effects(35:02) - AI as a Risk and Opportunity(36:18) - AI's Impact on Workflows(39:15) - Rethinking Business with AI(42:34) - Advice for SaaS Founders Starting Out(45:10) - Growing Towards 10 Million ARR(49:03) - Making Decisions When Not in the Room(51:01) - Summary of Key Points(51:26) - Building Rocketships Pro Edition(53:21) - Building a Community of Product Managers(53:57) - Closing Remarks and Call for Feedback

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Jun 24, 2025 • 55min
S6E19 - Future-Proof Your GTM Strategy: From AI Hype to Real Results with Frank Sondors
In this conversation with Frank Sondors, CEO of Forge and a sales and AI integration expert, listeners dive into the rapidly evolving landscape of sales. Frank reveals how he scaled his company to $3 million in just a year by merging AI with sales processes. He discusses the transformative role of GTM engineers and highlights the importance of blending AI tools with human efforts. Frank addresses common misconceptions about AI adoption and emphasizes the need for personalization and automation in crafting effective go-to-market strategies.

Jun 17, 2025 • 36min
S6E18 - The 3-Step GTM Playbook to Grow Your SaaS from €0 to €1M ARR with Alexander Estner
In this episode of the Grow Your B2B SaaS podcast, we sit down with Alexander Estner to talk about how to grow a SaaS company from zero to $1 million in ARR — and why many founders struggle to get there. Alex is a SaaS expert who has helped lots of startups build strong go-to-market (GTM) strategies. He shares a simple, step-by-step playbook that breaks the journey into three key stages: hustle, focus, and expansion. You’ll hear why it’s so important to start with a clear plan, how to avoid common mistakes like trying to sell to everyone, and why it’s better to test and learn than to aim for perfection from day one. Alex also gives practical tips, useful tools, and real-life examples that show what works and what doesn’t. Whether you’re just starting out or already have some traction, this episode is full of helpful advice to move your SaaS business forward. If you're trying to figure out how to grow the right way, without burning out or wasting time, this conversation is definitely worth a listen.Key Timecodes(0:38)-Guest Introduction: Introduction of Alexander Estner and today's topic(1:34)-Why Go-to-Market Strategy is Important: Alex explains the significance of a go-to-market strategy(3:05)-Strategy vs. Execution: Differentiating between strategy and execution in go-to-market(3:39)-Misconceptions in SaaS Growth: Discussing common misconceptions about reaching $1 million ARR(5:23)-Iterative Growth Approach: The necessity of an iterative approach in SaaS growth(6:41)-Common Mistakes in Go-to-Market Strategy: Alex shares frequent pitfalls founders encounter(8:49)-Owning Go-to-Market: The importance of founders owning their go-to-market strategy(9:05)-Three-Step Go-to-Market Process: Introduction to the hustle, focus, and expansion modes(13:27)-Documentation in Hustle Phase: Importance of documentation to ease the transition to focus mode(15:54)-Expansion Mode: Options for growth beyond $1 million ARR(17:02)-Tools and Templates: Recommended resources for executing go-to-market strategies(18:22)-Real-Life Implementation Challenges: Where founders struggle in real-life execution(21:07)-Immediate Actions Post-Episode: Steps for founders to take immediately after the episode(24:32)-Who to Work With: Identifying the key players in executing a go-to-market strategy(26:04)-Transparency in Go-to-Market: The importance of transparency in pricing and product information(29:18)-Summarizing Go-to-Market Advice: Key takeaways for founders(31:12)-Advice for Early-Stage Founders: Tips for growing to 10K MRR(32:15)-Scaling to 10 Million ARR: The role of customer success in driving revenue(34:21)-Summary of Key Points: Recap of the three-step process and key advice