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Ben Gilbert and David Rosenthal
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26 snips
Dec 5, 2016 • 1h 26min

Episode 26: Marvel

Topics covered include: Marvel’s corporate origins as "Timely Publications”, created in 1939 by pulp magazine publisher Martin Goodman in NYC, with the publication of Marvel Comics #1Creation of enduring characters such as Captain America, the Fantastic 4, Spider Man, The X-Men, Iron Man, Thor, The Hulk and moreAdoption in 1961 of the "Marvel Comics” brand, and writer-editor Stan Lee’s transition of the company towards focusing on edgier characters and stories targeted at older audiences Marvel’s first sale in 1968 to the Perfect Film and Chemical Corporation (later Cadence Industries)The company’s “turbulent” corporate history through the 1980’s and associated mergers, acquisitions and lawsuitsMarvel’s reinvention as a film-focused media company in the late 1990’s and early 2000’s with the launch of Marvel StudiosDisney’s ultimate acquisition of the company for $4.2 billion in August 2009, during the depth of the great recession Marvel's—and in particular Marvel Studios’—performance since the acquisition Sponsors:Koyfin: https://bit.ly/acquiredkoyfinStatsig: https://bit.ly/acquiredstatsig25ServiceNow: https://bit.ly/acquiredsnFollowups:  People like Spectacles!   Hot Takes: Shoutout to  Hightower & VTS merging  The Carve Out: Ben: WestworldDavid: OverdriveMore Acquired!:Get email updates with hints on next episode and follow-ups from recent episodesJoin the SlackSubscribe to ACQ2Merch Store!© Copyright 2015-2025 ACQ, LLC
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Nov 11, 2016 • 1h 28min

Episode 25: The Facebook IPO

Hey Acquired listeners. A note about this show: we recorded this episode the night before the 2016 Election Day in the US. At the time, the biggest change we saw coming was adding a new type of content to Acquired in analyzing IPO’s, which we introduce in this episode. Two days later, we woke up to a very different world than the one we were expecting. Reflecting on what’s happened, and the past few months of our show, we wanted to say two things:First, we want to apologize for our cavalier attitude toward this election cycle, and our glossing over the clearly very real problems and deep divide in America that it represented. In the Skype episode, David pretty glibly compared the AT&T - Time Warner merger to "Make America Great Again", arguing that any reactionary force is “on the wrong side of history” and cannot be relevant in a changing world. That was wrong, the sentiment behind it was wrong, and it was insensitive to the very real pain a lot of people are feeling out there on both sides.Second, looking back on this particular episode about the Facebook IPO, we think it actually might present a relevant parable for our country right now and--we hope--some important lessons for the technology industry going forward. For all the wonderful aspects of the tech industry that we celebrate on this show, there is no doubt that it also bears a great deal of responsibility for the current divide in America, and especially in its contribution to wealth inequality. Likewise, for all the wonderful aspects to the Facebook IPO story, as told in this episode, there is a very dark side as well: Facebook shareholders, investment banks and institutional investors raked in billions of dollars at the expense of individual retail investors who lost their shirts.At the same time, Facebook’s perseverance through their “broken IPO", and their determination in overcoming with incredible speed the massive, existential challenge to their business model posed by mobile, is something we think *can be* an inspiration to us all on how to move forward even when that seems hard. We hope you’ll listen to this episode with that in mind and think about how you, we, and the technology industry as a whole can do better in serving everyone in this country and in the world.Thanks for being on this journey with us. We’re sorry for our shortcomings, and we’re going to keep working hard to do better. -Ben & DavidSponsors:Koyfin: https://bit.ly/acquiredkoyfinStatsig: https://bit.ly/acquiredstatsig25ServiceNow: https://bit.ly/acquiredsnMore Acquired!:Get email updates with hints on next episode and follow-ups from recent episodesJoin the SlackSubscribe to ACQ2Merch Store!© Copyright 2015-2025 ACQ, LLCTopics covered include:Introducing a new content vertical for Acquired: analyzing IPO’s! Facebook turning down early acquisition offers, including including the  famous $1B overture from Yahoo in 2006 The Wikipedia entry on the Facebook IPO referencing it as a “cultural touchstone”Trading of pre-IPO Facebook stock on SecondMarket and SharesPost The infamous 2011 Facebook - Goldman Sachs deal attempting to circumvent then-active SEC regulations on number of permissible shareholders in a private company, and Goldman’s eventual loss of “lead left” status to Morgan Stanley for the ultimate Facebook IPO Facebook’s S-1 filing on February 1, 2012The company’s "small problem" at the time (read: gaping chest wound) with mobileAcquiring Instagram for $1B while on file to go public in April 2012Facebook’s $16B IPO finally taking place on Friday May 18, 2012, priced at $38 per share giving FB an initial market cap of $104BNASDAQ’s “technical glitch” (read: egregious f*&# up)  preventing the stock from trading when it supposed to and resulting in $500M of investor lossesFacebook’s stock tanking following a flat first day of trading, losing 25% of its value during the first month and over 50% 4 months later, leading some to label it “The Biggest IPO Flop Ever"Later revelations that Facebook had  unprecedentedly lowered revenue guidance during its IPO roadshow due to continuing challenges with mobile, resulting in an information asymmetry between its underwriting investment banks and their institutional investor clients versus the investing public at large How, from the ashes of its “broken IPO”, Facebook amazingly rose to fix its mobile problem at lighting speed, going from mobile comprising zero percent of ad revenue to 23% in one quarter, and over 50% one year laterZuckerberg's belief that the difficult IPO process and "terrible first year” as a public company "made our company a lot stronger”… and silicon valley’s bizarre, antithetical and counter-productive take away to “stay private longer” Followups: The scoop on Microsoft’s use of foreign cash to buy Skype, thanks to longtime listener and friend Nick Seguin Hot Takes:Twitter shutting down (or selling?) Vine The Carve Out:Ben: Amazon employee #1 Shel Kaphan on the great Internet History PodcastDavid:  Connectography: Mapping the Future of Global Civilization by Parag Khanna
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Nov 2, 2016 • 1h 26min

Episode 24: Skype

Skype's origins in Kazaa and its unique corporate culture. Acquisitions by eBay and subsequent legal drama. The decline of Skype and its replacements. Microsoft's acquisition of Skype and the future of communication tools.
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Oct 23, 2016 • 1h 10min

Episode 23: NeXT (Live show at the GeekWire Summit)

Covering Apple's 1996 acquisition of NeXT, including Steve Jobs' hero story, the launch of the NeXT computer and its lack of product market fit, NeXT's transformation into a software company, the acquisition and integration of NeXT by Apple, and the importance of strong leadership in a company.
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Oct 14, 2016 • 1h 18min

Episode 22: Zillow + Trulia (with Zillow Group CFO Kathleen Philips)

CFO of Zillow Group Kathleen Philips joins Ben and David to cover the show’s first true “merger” versus “acquisition" (only took 22 episodes!), Zillow’s 2015 combination with Trulia to form Zillow Group.   Note: our audio glitches unfortunately continued on this episode, and quality is rough. We recommend listening on speakers vs headphones if you’re able. We apologize and will be back to normal quality next time! Sponsors:Koyfin: https://bit.ly/acquiredkoyfinStatsig: https://bit.ly/acquiredstatsig25ServiceNow: https://bit.ly/acquiredsnMore Acquired!:Get email updates with hints on next episode and follow-ups from recent episodesJoin the SlackSubscribe to ACQ2Merch Store!© Copyright 2015-2025 ACQ, LLCTopics covered include: Zillow and Trulia’s beginnings during the “Web 2.0” era in the mid-2000’s Zillow, Trulia and other online players’ place within the massive US real estate marketThe lengthy “dance" between Zillow and Trulia and earlier aborted merger talks between the twoThe difficulty of "true mergers” among private companies and why the path is easier for public companies Public company shareholders’ influence and role in M&A transactions Details of the blazingly fast negotiations (27 days start to finish!) per disclosures in the  SEC filings (scroll down to "Background of the Mergers”)Structuring the deal and incentivizing Trulia and Zillow mangers to stay and continue growing as separate brandsTrulia cofounder Sami Inkinen’s whereabouts during the merger negotiations The experience going through a lengthy FTC review of the merger, and defining what the relevant “market” is the FTC should be consideringIntroducing our new acquisition category: a “timeline acquisition” ;) (h/t Kathleen)Zillow Group’s overall approach to acquisitions, folding into its broader HR strategy Zillow founder Rich Barton’s startup thesis of searching for "What piece of marketplace information do people crave and don’t have?"  Followups: Snap Inc. Spectacles!   Hot Takes: Twitter-Disney rumors, according to “people familiar with matter”! AppLovin’s journey from bootstrapped startup to $1.4B exit  The Carve Out: Ben: The Marvel Symphonic UniverseDavid:  Shoe Dog by Phil KnightKathleen: The Struts
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Sep 27, 2016 • 1h 25min

Episode 21: Inside the M&A Press with Bloomberg's Alex Sherman

Ben and David go inside the M&A press with Bloomberg’s technology M&A reporter and host of the Deal of the Week Podcast, Alex Sherman. If you’ve ever wondered how stories about big deals get broken or what “according to people familiar with the matter” really means, tune in for the behind-the-scenes scoop!   Note: A technical glitch with our recording setup created occasional short silences between Alex’s comments and Ben & David’s. It shouldn’t impact listenability, but we apologize for the awkward pauses! Sponsors:Koyfin: https://bit.ly/acquiredkoyfinStatsig: https://bit.ly/acquiredstatsig25ServiceNow: https://bit.ly/acquiredsnMore Acquired!:Get email updates with hints on next episode and follow-ups from recent episodesJoin the SlackSubscribe to ACQ2Merch Store!© Copyright 2015-2025 ACQ, LLCTopics covered include: Bloomberg’s own fascinating “history & facts” and origins following the acquisition of storied Wall Street firm Salomon Brothers Bloomberg’s core as a highly profitable technology business (selling terminals to Wall Street firms), with a large media empire built on top of itThe tradable value of breaking M&A news & information to Bloomberg’s terminal customers, and competing on speedHow “sources" work — and industry standard that sources be directly within the companies involved in a dealThe coded language of M&A reporting and gleaning where information is coming from based on a story’s structure and phrasingThe lifecycle of a story—steps from sourcing to writing to release, and reasons (or lack thereof) for why stories run when they doInternal & external PR resources companies use for M&A How Alex prioritizes his time researching and creating stories, and who he’s meeting with to hear about what deals are in the works The difference between ‘news' and ‘analysis', and why news dominates the majority of stories versus deeper analysisMedia and social media business models, their evolution in the messenger world, and speculation on Twitter’s futureHow entrepreneurs can think about interacting with the press and building relationships with the right reporters for their stage and spaceApple’s ‘unique’ approach to press relations   Followups: Instagram announces 500k+ active advertisers, up from 200k in February 2016 Amazon stock price surpasses $800/share  Hot Takes:  Ford acquires Chariot The Yahoo! data breach and  potential impact on their acquisition by Verizon   The Carve Out: Ben: Phil of Drones’ Burning Man 2016 recap videoDavid:  Algorithms to Live By by Brian Christian & Tom Griffiths Alex:  Clinton’s Samantha Bee Problem, by Ross Douthat in the NYT Opinion Pages
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Sep 16, 2016 • 1h 21min

Episode 20: Android

Ben & David examine Google’s 2005 purchase of Android for a rumored $50M, undeniably one of the best technology acquisitions of all time. But will it top the list of these tough graders? Tune in to find out. Sponsors:Koyfin: https://bit.ly/acquiredkoyfinStatsig: https://bit.ly/acquiredstatsig25ServiceNow: https://bit.ly/acquiredsn   More Acquired!:Get email updates with hints on next episode and follow-ups from recent episodesJoin the SlackSubscribe to ACQ2Merch Store!© Copyright 2015-2025 ACQ, LLCTopics covered include: Welcome new listeners! We quickly review the show format for newbies. Community spotlight: Patagonia on a Budget from community member Matt Morgante (@mattm on Slack)Andy Rubin’s career trajectory and what made him “born to start Android"The undeniable “cool factor” of the Danger Sidekick in the early/mid-2000’s, including fans such as  Larry Page, Sergey Brin and… Turtle from Entourage Android’s original ambition to build an operating system for…  digital camerasWebTV founder Steve Perlman is  pretty much the best friend ever Google’s own perspective on Android as their “best deal ever"The Android team’s reaction to Steve Jobs unveiling the iPhone in January 2007, and redesigning the initial launch hardware Announcing Android and—equally importantly—the Open Handset Alliance (“OHA”)The much-talked-about "mobile holy wars", between Android’s “open” platform and Apple’s “closed” platform The less-talked-about US carrier wars with the iPhone + AT&T in one camp, and everyone else in the Google / OHA camp (including “Droid Does”)A quirk of history: HTC at one point acquires a majority share in Beats, resulting a short-lived period of  Beats-branded Android phones (still available on Amazon!)The real battleground for Google in the mobile platform wars: the economics of “default search” (briefly known thanks to the  Oracle/Java lawsuit against Google) Google’s detour into smartphone hardware with the acquisition (and subsequent divestiture) of Motorola The “fork-ability” of Android via the Android Open Source Project (versus “Google Android”), and the rise of Xiaomi, Cyanogen, Kindle Fire and other platformsThe ecosystem economics of the Android business for Google “Defensive” versus “offensive” acquisitions, and protecting Google’s core search business Could (or would) Google have built an Android-like platform without acquiring Android the company (or having Andy Rubin)?Framing the technology world’s shift to mobile within (surprise) Ben Thompson’s Aggregation TheoryThe current “moving up the stack” of the competitive playing field as the mobile landscape matures Grading: Android versus Instagram?  Followups:  Waze launches Carpool in the Bay Area.  Much consternation ensues on the Uber board.  Hot Takes: The iPhone 7 (and AirPods) announcement   The Carve Out: Ben:  Business Adventures by John Brooks, Bill Gates’ favorite business bookDavid: Ezra Edelman's fantastic 5-part ESPN documentary on O.J. Simpson, O.J.: Made in AmericaNone this week… coverage of Instagram Stories to come next time!
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Aug 29, 2016 • 1h 12min

Episode 19: Jet

In this podcast, Ben & David discuss the rise of Jet.com and its acquisition by Walmart. They explore the history of the company and its founder, as well as Amazon's acquisition of Quidsi. They delve into Jet's vision as an 'online Costco' and its pivot away from a membership model. The podcast also explores the growth potential of Jet, the challenges it faces, and the competition with Amazon.
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Aug 22, 2016 • 1h 11min

Episode 18: Special—An Acquirer’s View into M&A with Taylor Barada, head of Corp Dev at Adobe

Ben & David are joined by special guest Taylor Barada, VP and Head of Corporate Development & Strategic Partnerships at Adobe, to discuss how large tech acquirers approach buying companies. This episode is full of great insights for startups & entrepreneurs who might find themselves navigating the M&A process, as well as anyone curious about the craft of dealmaking and the strategic approach of large acquirers. Sponsors:Koyfin: https://bit.ly/acquiredkoyfinStatsig: https://bit.ly/acquiredstatsig25ServiceNow: https://bit.ly/acquiredsn More Acquired!:Get email updates with hints on next episode and follow-ups from recent episodesJoin the SlackSubscribe to ACQ2Merch Store!© Copyright 2015-2025 ACQ, LLCTopics covered include: How conversations begin between startups and acquirersThe importance of building a relationship with acquirers over time and "investing in lines, not dots” (just like raising VC)The often under-appreciated role of culture fit between acquirers and acquisition targets How entrepreneurs should evaluate acquirers throughout the M&A process Two examples of successful acquisitions Taylor completed at Yahoo in Citizen Sports and IntoNowThe M&A process at large technology acquirers, from initial conversations to LOI, due diligence and the definitive merger agreement The relative roles of Corp Dev, business/product owners and executive sponsors in the M&A processCommon mistakes startups (and VC’s) often make in the M&A processDifferent “categories” of M&A that acquirers think about, and the relative risks & opportunities of “core" acquisitions vs transformative new businesses What percentage of deals Adobe looks at actually happen, and the importance of being willing to say noM&A as a tool for strategy, and the different M&A cultures & approaches at different companies Tech themes Taylor and Adobe think about as part of their M&A strategyEvaluating the longterm success of deals and the importance of the M&A integration function   Followups: Ben & David’s quick take on Instagram Stories!   The Carve Out: Ben:  Why the Concorde failed by VoxDavid: Simone Biles,  the greatest gymnast of all timeTaylor:  Mindset by Carol Dweck,  Shoe Dog by Phil Knight, Originals: How Non-Conformists Move the World by Adam GrantNone this week… coverage of Instagram Stories to come next time!
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Aug 3, 2016 • 1h 8min

Acquired Episode 17: Waze

Topics covered include: Community Showcase: the Nexcast podcasting platform from listener Brian Sanders, along with their podcast chronicling the team’s journey building the company Waze’s origin in cofounder & CTO Ehud Shabtai’s desire to hack his portable GPS navigation unitWaze CEO Noam Bardin’s  retrospective blog post on the Waze journey  Waze’s Palo Alto office and the bizarre Silicon Valley phenomenon of tech companies being located in retail storefronts Apple’s  ill-fated launch of Apple Maps as part of iOS 6 at WWDC 2012, Apple’s subsequent apology letter, and  Scott Forstall’s ultimate ouster from the company The climax of the mobile platform wars… which it turns out Apple and Google  both won Apple, Facebook, and Google all vying to acquire Waze throughout 2013 Google’s renewed design ethos under Larry PageBen and David spontaneously agree (surprise) to create on a new category of acquisition for the show The increasing strategic value of data and data assets as technology enters the age of machine learning The coming mega trend of autonomous vehicles, and  the role Israeli startups are playing in it (including the globalization of startups & innovation)The disruptive power of network and data-based business modelsEmergence of native as *the* definitive advertising medium on mobile, including ability to close the advertising loop via location-based products and services Sponsors:Koyfin: https://bit.ly/acquiredkoyfinStatsig: https://bit.ly/acquiredstatsig25ServiceNow: https://bit.ly/acquiredsnMore Acquired!:Get email updates with hints on next episode and follow-ups from recent episodesJoin the SlackSubscribe to ACQ2Merch Store!© Copyright 2015-2025 ACQ, LLCThe Carve Out:Ben: Weezer’s “Summer Elaine and Drunk Dori” on Song Exploder David:  Simon Sinek’s “Start with Why” TED Talk  Followups: None this week… coverage of Instagram Stories to come next time!

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