
RevOps Lab
Welcome to the RevOps Lab - a podcast exploring the art & science of Revenue Operations.
Every week, Philipp & Janis host RevOps professionals to discuss best practices and lessons learnt building scalable revenue engines.
This show is for everyone interested in processes, tooling, enablement, and strategies to supercharge your GTM play.
To find more episodes and resources on scaling your revenue engine, visit getweflow.com/revops
Latest episodes

Jun 18, 2024 • 42min
#34 Managing RevOps after raising €100M in Series C - Alfonso Comino, VP Revenue Operations at FINN
Alfonso Comino, VP of Revenue Operations at Finn, shares his journey from the hotel industry to technology and delves into the complexities of managing different go-to-market motions at Finn.
We cover:
The importance of flexibility in revenue operations
Managing B2C, B2B, and B2B2E go-to-market motions
Building internal tools for operational efficiency
You can find more information about Alfonso here:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/alfonsocomino/
RevOps Letter: https://www.getweflow.com/revopsletterJanis on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/philippstelzerPhilipp on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/janiszechWeflow: https://www.getweflow.com
Chapters:
(00:00:00) Introduction
(00:01:17) RevOpsAF 2024
(00:02:53) Alfonso's Background
(00:07:31) Overview of FINN
(00:11:14) Transition to Tech
(00:14:39) Compensation Planning at FINN
(00:19:06) Managing Gross Margins
(00:24:00) Principles of Compensation Planning
(00:28:56) Tools and Processes
(00:35:30) Final Thoughts & Advice

Jun 11, 2024 • 45min
#33 Comp planning for consumption-based billing models, with VP of Ops at Rescale, Gabe Rothman
Today’s episode with Gabe Rothman dives into the complexities of compensation planning for high-touch sales models. Gabe is the Vice President of Operations at Rescale and brings extensive experience in managing consumption-based billing and driving seller behavior through effective compensation structures.
We cover:
How to commit customers in consumption-based pricing models
Drive seller behavior through compensation plans
Comp planning: Tools & strategies to reduce complexity
You can find more information about Gabe here:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/gprothman/
RevOps Letter: https://www.getweflow.com/revopsletter
Janis on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/philippstelzer
Philipp on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/janiszech
Weflow: https://www.getweflow.com
Marker:
(00:00:00) Introduction
(00:01:17) RevOpsAF 2024
(00:02:53) Gabe's Background
(00:07:31) What is Rescale?
(00:11:14) High-Touch Sales Model
(00:14:39) Comp Planning at Rescale
(00:19:06) Managing Gross Margins
(00:24:00) Principles to Reduce Comp Planning Complexity
(00:28:56) Tools to Manage Comp Planning
(00:35:30) Final Thoughts and Advice

Jun 4, 2024 • 40min
#32 Creating a modern revenue factory - Jacco van der Kooij, Founder of Winning by Design
Jacco is the founder of Winning By Design and best-selling author of Revenue Architecture. In this episode, he shares his deep knowledge of revenue models with us.
We cover:
Six essential models to create recurring revenue
How to establish a common data language in your org
Basic rules for different stages of scaling
Jacco’s book can be found here:
https://shop.winningbydesign.com/products/revenue-architecture-text-book
https://winningbydesign.com/resources/research/has-saas-lost-go-to-market-fit/
You can find more information about Jacco here:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaccovanderkooij/
RevOps Letter: https://www.getweflow.com/revopsletter Janis on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/philippstelzer/ Philipp on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/janiszech/ Weflow: https://www.getweflow.com/
Marker:
(00:00:00) Why Jacco wrote "Revenue Architecture"
(00:02:09) How markets have shifted
(00:03:53) GTM motions & measuring profitability
(00:11:03) Rules for different stages of scaling
(00:17:41) 6 models to create recurring revenue
(00:22:55) How to establish a common data language
(00:32:13) Navigating a jungle of different GTM motions

May 28, 2024 • 34min
#31 How to forecast with high accuracy - Jeff Ignacio, Head of GTM Operations & Growth at Regrow Ag
Today’s episode with Jeff Ignacio is all about forecasting.
Jeff wrote three articles encompassing 17 questions about forecasting — and we walk you through all the key learnings.
We cover:
What an effective forecasting process looks like
Pitfalls of different forecast types
How to measure pipeline hygiene
Jeff’s articles can be found here:
1. https://revengine.substack.com/p/lets-run-it-back-with-forecasting
2. https://revengine.substack.com/p/lets-run-it-back-with-forecasting-5da
3.https://revengine.substack.com/p/lets-run-it-back-with-forecasting-076?utm_source=publication-search
You can find more information about Jeff here:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffbethechange/
RevOps Letter: https://www.getweflow.com/revopsletter Janis on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/philippstelzer/ Philipp on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/janiszech/ Weflow: https://www.getweflow.com/
Marker:
(00:00:00) The right forecasting cadence
(00:04:58) Pitfalls of weighted forecasts & how to do it right
(00:10:18) How to measure pipeline hygiene
(00:16:17) Forecast rollups
(00:20:17) What a good forecasting process looks like
(00:25:41) Handling big deals in forecasting

May 21, 2024 • 33min
#30 Scaling RevOps at Just Eat Takeaway.com, Richard de Veer, Director of RevOps - Corporate Solutions at JET
In today’s episode, Richard de Veer shares his view on managing (RevOps) complexity while giving insights into his role at Just Eat Takeaway.com
What you’ll learn in this episode:
How JETs manages GTM & RevOps complexity
JET’s GTM motion, org structure, and CRM setup
Managing internationalization
You can find more information about Richard here:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/richarddeveer/
RevOps Letter: https://www.getweflow.com/revopsletter Janis on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/philippstelzer/ Philipp on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/janiszech/ Weflow: https://www.getweflow.com/
Marker:
(00:00:00) What is JET doing and how did you end up in RevOps?
(00:07:01) CRM setup for managing JET’s complexity
(00:13:26) JET’s GTM motion & org structure
(00:18:14) Managing internationalization
(00:24:10) The biggest challenges
(00:27:20) JET’s GTM roadmap
(00:29:25) Richard’s advice for his younger self

May 14, 2024 • 3min
#29 Quick update & announcement from the RevOps Lab
In case you wondered where my podcast partner Janis went, I made this short solo episode to give you a quick insight into some news.
What’s this episode about:
What project is Janis working on?
Why should you take a look at his new work?
What will change in the RevOps Lab?
You can find the new project here:
The Revenue LabRevOps Letter: https://www.getweflow.com/revopsletter Janis on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/philippstelzer/ Philipp on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/janiszech/ Weflow: https://www.getweflow.com/

May 7, 2024 • 44min
#28 Creating an effective Marketing attribution model - with Daniel Foulkes, Senior Marketing Strategy & Operations Manager at CoachHub
In today’s episode you’re getting deep into Marketing attribution models. A never-ending story, that we continue with our guest, Daniel Foulkes from CoachHub.
What you’ll learn in this episode:
Marketing attribution model at CoachHub
Getting started with a marketing attribution model
Tech stack & CRM set up for attribution models
You can find more information about Daniel here:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielfoulkes/
RevOps Letter: https://www.getweflow.com/revopsletter Janis on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/philippstelzer/ Philipp on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/janiszech/ Weflow: https://www.getweflow.com/
Marker:
(00:00:00) Introduction
(00:05:10) Sales & Marketing alignment
(00:09:13) Marketing attribution model
(00:15:45) Getting started with an attribution model(00:23:45) Limitations of attribution models
(00:29:38) Tech stack & CRM set-up
(00:41:50) Final advice

Apr 30, 2024 • 37min
#27 How RevOps should work with leadership and the C-suite - Stacie Sussman, CRO at RevUp Advisory
RevOps often wants to become more strategic but has a hard time doing so. Stacie Stussman joins us on this week's episode to discuss how revenue operators should work with leadership and the C-suite to become more relevant on a strategic level. We cover:
The partnership model between ops and the revenue team
How RevOps can push strategic projects
How to RevOps can prove its worth
You can find more information about Stacie here:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/staciesussman/
RevOps Letter: https://www.getweflow.com/revopsletter
Janis on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/philippstelzer/
Philipp on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/janiszech/
Weflow: https://www.getweflow.com/
Marker:
(00:00:00) Introduction / Stacie's career path
(00:08:33) RevOps and the leadership team
(00:15:52) Getting internal alignment
(00:20:15) RevOps becoming more strategic
(00:24:30) Identifying internal pains
(00:26:44) Proving RevOps' worth
(00:32:00) Final advice

Apr 23, 2024 • 41min
#26 RevOps’ role in quota and OTE planning - Jeremy Lamande, Fractional RevOps Leader & LI Top Sales Operations Voice
Today’s episode is fully focused on a topic that we haven’t touched much yet: compensation and quota setting.
What you’ll learn in this episode:
Fundamentals of OTE, total comp and quota
RevOps’ role in quota and OTE planning
The ideal process to define OTE and quota
You can find more information about Jeremy here:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremy-lamande/
RevOps Letter: https://www.getweflow.com/revopsletter Janis on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/philippstelzer/ Philipp on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/janiszech/ Weflow: https://www.getweflow.com/
Marker:
(00:00:00) How did you get to RevOps?
(00:06:37) Jeremy’s view on comp planning
(00:10:44) Setting quota & comp structure
(00:22:24) When to structure comp plans
(00:30:12) RevOps’ role in quota & OTE planning
(00:36:59) What would you tell his younger self?

Apr 16, 2024 • 43min
#25 How Sales Enablement impacts Revenue Operations - Stephanie Middaugh, Head of Global GTM Enablement at Pinecone
In today’s episode we dive deeper on the relationship between sales enablement and revenue operations.
What you’ll learn in this episode:
How to enable your GTM team
Most common mistakes in GTM onboarding
Key enablement KPIs
How to bridge GTM enablement and RevOps
You can find more information about Stephanie here:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/sjmiddaugh/
RevOps Letter: https://www.getweflow.com/revopsletter Janis on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/philippstelzer/ Philipp on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/janiszech/ Weflow: https://www.getweflow.com/
Marker:
(00:00:00) How did you end up in RevOps?
(00:04:27) What is sales enablement to you?
(00:07:31) RevOps at Pinecone
(00:13:21) Onboarding at Pinecone
(00:19:09) Best leadership practices & aligning success metrics across teams
(00:21:20) Onboarding mistakes
(00:31:16) Tech stack in sales enablement
(00:34:28) Key enablement KPIs
(00:40:31) Advice to your younger self