

Thought Leaders – Real Estate Re-imagined (formerly The Elevate Podcast)
Elite Agent
Thought Leaders – Real Estate Re-imagined spotlights the outside-the-box minds rewriting how property is sold, leased and managed worldwide. Host Samantha McLean, editor of Elite Agent, shares frank, inspiring conversations with real estate practitioners as well as founders and entrepreneurs from outside the industry. Expect actionable playbooks on AI-powered prospecting, climate-change resilience, brand storytelling, next-gen leadership and talent retention. Each episode distils data and tactics you can apply immediately—whether you’re chasing your first million in GCI, steering a multi-office network or craving a better work-life balance. Subscribe to reimagine what’s possible and thrive in real estate’s new era.
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Nov 23, 2020 • 44min
The art of the chase: Tim Heavyside
This episode of the Elevate podcast is brought to you by Connect Now
Tim Heavyside is an 18-year veteran of the real estate industry and is a director and auctioneer at Fletchers Real Estate in Melbourne.
As part owner of a 101-year-old brand, he is also Fletchers in-house sales trainer, and like many in Victoria, has recently navigated the challenge of transacting property while Melbourne endured extended COVID-19 lockdowns.
In this podcast Tim shares a wealth of tips for securing sales during tough times, along with the skills he uses to gain listings.
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In this podcast, Samantha and Tim also discuss:
How the game is always the same even in tough times
The new ways to sell a property
Skills Tim drew on in lockdown and lessons learned in 2020
How Tim entered real estate and went from novice to expert auctioneer
The real estate mindset
Links and resources mentioned
RealTime Agent
BidTracker
Openn Negotiation
Phil de Fégely
Books
Useful Belief – Chris Helder
The Power of Connection – Rick Rushton
Connect with Tim Heavyside
Website
LinkedIn

Nov 20, 2020 • 35min
Using data to drive relationships: Travis Williams
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Travis Williams is the founder and CEO of Box+Dice – an Australian tech-co which has pioneered cloud-based real estate technology over the past two decades to become one of the country’s leading CRM and transaction platforms.
A highly successful agent in his own right, Travis entered the industry as part of a family business, and has translated this personal insight into a CRM built for agents, by an agent.
In this episode of the Elevate podcast, Travis explains the value of a database, why agents are ‘market makers’, and how comprehensive client data can help agents come back from a setback.
He also shares the story of how Box+Dice began while offering an insight into his own real estate career.
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In this podcast, Samantha and Travis also discuss:
The importance of metrics
How Box+Dice came to be
Lessons learned from a start-up
Travis’ real estate career
The peaks and troughs of real estate
Communication skills, the power of silence, and why agents shouldn’t block the offer
The biggest CRM mistakes agents make
The value of a database in off-market sales
Where technology will take the industry
What’s next for Box+Dice
Links and resources mentioned
Box+Dice
Peter Gilchrist
Travis Williams on Elite Agent
Make the right CRM switch
Connect with Travis
LinkedIn
Website

Nov 13, 2020 • 27min
Looking back, moving forward: Owen Wilson and Kul Singh
REA Group CEO Owen Wilson and Chief Sales Officer Kul Singh need little introduction as the leaders of one of the industry’s largest real estate portals.
But this year the REA Group has also endured the challenges of COVID-19 from a business and industry perspective.
As a result, they’ve worked hard to pivot and adapt, by offering their customers support, introducing a range of new products, and also navigating the work from home shift brought about the multiple lockdowns in Victoria, where the group is headquartered.
In the interim, they’ve also experienced unprecedented audience growth.
In this episode of the Elevate Podcast, we discuss how the REA reacted to 2020, the support they offered the industry, and where the group plans to go from here.
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Samantha, Owen and Kul also discuss:
Collaboration with the industry, including the new Property Panel
Ongoing support that will extend into 2021
Audience growth and what this indicates in terms of property trends
The AREA Excellence Awards, and some exciting new additions
The resilience of the real estate industry
Submissions for AREAs 2020 are now open
Information on entering the AREAs
Tips for a winning AREA entry
Last year’s winners
REA on Elite Agent
REA Group wants you for their online Property Panel
REA Group Freezes prices, introduced data-based AREAS
REA Group celebrates excellent results in their annual report
Resources
REA Property Panel
REA Agent marketing centre
Connect with Owen
WebsiteLinkedIn
Connect with Kul
WebsiteLinkedIn

Nov 10, 2020 • 22min
Master strata faster: Simone Firns
Simone Firns is proficient in four languages, a whizz at debt-collection and now a valued Owners Corporation Manager with Melbourne firm Network Pacific Real Estate.
She’s also the 2018 AREAs winner for Excellence in Customer Service and part of the Network Pacific AREA winning team in 2019 for Game Changer Of The Year.
Through the challenges of 2020 and extended lockdown in Melbourne, Simone has continued her focus on clear and effective communication with her customers. It’s been the key to building her portfolio and excelling in her career.
In this episode of the Elevate Podcast, we talk about embracing technology and how “Sally” has put Network Pacific and Simone ahead of the customer service curve.
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Samantha and Simone also discuss:
Winning AREAs two years in a row and perfecting your pitch
Maintaining customer relationships with innovative tech
Why hard work, dedication and being open to learning are the keys to unlocking a satisfying career
The game-changing management of Airbnb property via an app
Life in lockdown and managing an Owners Corporation portfolio from your kitchen bench
The importance of ongoing, consistent communication
The brains behind Sally – developing the app that will revolutionise property management in real-estate
Submissions for AREAs 2020 open on October 7
Information on entering
Last year’s winners
Simone Firns: Blood, Sweat and No Tears
Resources
Network Pacific
Connect with Simone
WebsiteLinkedInFacebookInstagramTwitter

Nov 6, 2020 • 29min
Personal service at scale: Jamie Billerwell
Quirky. Funny. Laser-focused. Jamie Billerwell of Code Property Group has so far had her biggest year as a BDM in her career to date.
The combination of a hot Sunshine Coast market, a great team, and being spurred on by winning Property Manager of the Year at the AREAs last year have created the conditions this year for her to significantly grow her business and her career.
Dig deeper past that bubbly exterior and she is passionate about creating wealth for her clients; devising personalised campaigns and strategies geared toward each and every property. She’s also determined to make a difference in the lives of her clients.
In this episode of the Elevate podcast, we talk about her customised approach to serving her clients while using the latest ideas in digital marketing and social media.
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Samantha and Jamie also discuss:
The role of a BDM and how she approaches lead generation; where her best sources of leads are
Why focusing on every lead channel is not necessarily the most efficient strategy when it comes to growth
How she works with the sales team
Creating an individual experience for a large number of people – what Jamie does instead of letterbox dropping
How to be first to start the conversation with any potential landlord
Her ‘controversial’ strategy for dealing with people who call and ask straight away about fees
Getting higher value properties onto the rent roll, plus marketing tips for ‘elite’ clients
The trap some PMs and BDMs fall into of transferring their own biases and preferences onto the client and how to avoid it
Her focus for the next 12 months.
Submissions for AREAs 2020 open on October 7
Information on entering
Last year’s winners
Jamie Billerwell: Serendipity and Success
Resources
Code Property Group
1Form
Connect with Jamie
WebsiteLinkedInFacebook (Jamie)Facebook (Code Property)Instagram (Code Property)Twitter (Jamie)

Oct 30, 2020 • 33min
The Art of Modern Communication: Kamal Sarma
Talk to anyone and they will say that 2020 has been full of lessons in effective communication, with probably still more to come. But what are the lessons we need to take forward from this year to set us up for success in connecting on a deeper level with our clients, our teams, our families and other people we meet?
CEO and Founder of Rezilium Kamal Sarma says true leadership right now is one of the scarcest resources on our planet – and mastery of this topic is not something that you can learn from a listicle.
But in this episode of the Elevate Podcast, we discuss what you can do to learn and practice to master the art of communication and modern leadership – bringing greater awareness of empowering vs disempowering language and how to change from traditional win-lose thinking to true win-win styles of communication.
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Samantha and Kamal also discuss:
The lack of leadership in the world in general and what we can do to change that
The fact that 49 per cent of employees would rather quit than have a conversation about a workplace issue and what to do about it
How to open the lines of communication
Listening – why Kamal believes it’s now an overrated term and what the person sitting opposite you really wants
Why you should be wary of tips and hacks when it comes to mastering leadership
How and why leaders should ask for feedback
Positive vs negative language patterns, where they came from and how to change them
Beating ‘zoom fatigue’ and building relationships quickly even in online situations
How Richard Morecroft helped him improve his English accent.
Resources
Rezilium
R U OK?
LJ Hooker Accelerate
Win win conversations with Kamal Sarma
Connect with Kamal
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Oct 26, 2020 • 30min
The industrial revolution (in real estate)
Malcom Tyson joined Colliers International in 1994 in the North Sydney office as an industrial sales and leasing agent. He now manages the Australian industrial agency team, comprising of over 100 experts nationally, and as NSW State Chief Executive he also leads the 730+ staff in the NSW team across six offices and dozens of on-site management teams.
Last year Colliers won the Gold AREA award for Commercial Agency of the year, and obviously, Malcom’s team were a big part of that.
But this has been an interesting year in commercial and industrial as people were sent home from their offices and retail shops were shut.
So this is a fascinating tour into not just the development of a winning people culture but also how commercial and industrial markets are adapting to ‘prevailing economic conditions’.
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Samantha and Malcom also discuss:
Why Colliers no longer use the term ‘COVID-19’ and what they have replaced it with to re-focus their teams on the things they can control
What it takes to build a winning culture and how Malcom works at motivating and managing such a large team
The changes in commercial real estate this year and why Malcom believes employees will want to return to the office
The boom in warehousing and logistics and how that’s enabling an Industrial real estate revolution
Innovation and automation and how that is impacting the industrial sector
How to become an employer of choice and an attraction employer
Tips for presenting a winning AREAs submission.
Submissions for AREAs 2020 open on October 7
Information on entering the AREAs
Last year’s winners
Resources
Colliers International
Connect with Malcom
WebsiteLinkedInFacebookInstagram

Oct 23, 2020 • 31min
The Power of Storytelling: Holly Komorowski
Founder of home.byholly, Holly Komorowski is one of the best storytellers in the business. Her ability to look beyond the face-value of a property and create clever marketing campaigns centred around the story behind the property, it’s owners and the community, has captured the imagination of locals – and it’s seen her and her team win AREA awards in each of the last three years, culminating in her being named AREAs agent of the year in 2019.
Holly has created a “collective and collaborative” agency approach where teamwork and mentoring, with a little bit of CrossFit thrown in for good measure, are key. It’s through this approach that Holly is not only innovating the Canberra real estate market but creating business-savvy, independent agents now celebrating successes of their own.
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In this episode of the Elevate podcast, we talk about scaling her boutique agency and creating The Collective’ taking Canberra’s real estate market by storm.
Samantha and Holly also discuss:
What ‘The Collective’ means and how they source the best people and partners to work with
How she mentors agents in her team to build their personal brand within The Collective
The power of storytelling in your marketing and how she approaches each campaign
How to use other ‘influencers’ as partners
How Holly works with the media, particularly a partnership with local media outlet ‘The Riot Act” to amplify exposure
Engaging with and giving back to the community
How her AREA wins have challenged her to continue raising the bar and how she uses the wins in her marketing to win more listings
Why she does ‘new year’ cards as opposed to Christmas cards…
plus much much more…
Submissions for AREAs 2020 are open now
Information on entering the AREAs
Last year’s winners
Holly Komorowski on Elite Agent
Home is where the heart is
Growth and gratitude
Holly hits a home run
Connect with Holly
Website
LinkedIn
Facebook
Instagram
Resources
Design Canberra 2020
The Riot Act
The ‘Lego Love’ property

Oct 16, 2020 • 29min
How to effectively nurture leads in your real estate CRM: Trevor Bragg
This episode of the Elevate podcast is brought to you by Connect Now
In this episode of the Elevate podcast, you’ll learn how how to save time with automation, while improving communication with clients, and find out how to get some great templates to get you started.
Trevor Bragg is the Head of Sales and Business Development at Eagle Software, a 100 per cent cloud-based CRM for real estate listing and contact management. Prior to joining Eagle, he has had significant experience in the real estate industry including spending time at Penrith Professionals, CoreLogic, Portplus and Agent SMS.
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In this episode of the Elevate Podcast, Samantha and Trevor discuss
How to become a master of CRM, eMarketing, property data, apps and all that technology can provide in the real estate space
Why it’s essential to mix scheduled automation with human interaction (and how to successfully pull it off!)
How you can create templates workflows and emails that are reusable for different types of clients
Why the process of ‘nurturing’ your prospects in your CRM is, and always will be, the cornerstone of effective communication
Tips to maximise the productivity of your agency, and agents, while ensuring your clients feel they are receiving gold standard attention and service for their specific needs.
plus much, much more…
Connect with Trevor
Website
LinkedIn
Facebook
Links and resources mentioned
In this podcast, Trevor mentions some free email templates – you can download those at https://geteagle.com.au/templates
Trevor on eliteagent.com

Oct 9, 2020 • 46min
A hopeful future for real estate: Stu Benson
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The pandemic lockdown upended Australia’s real estate industry this year, but auctioneer Stu Benson is still optimistic about what’s in store for the future. Stu has been in the industry for 20 years and is the Director of Benson Auctions, servicing Sydney’s North West, and is known for his dedication to his community and his band of loyal agent clients.
A huge personality, Stu is often recognised not just for his auctioneering talents, but also for his community work, rugged good looks and engaging social media presence.
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This is Stu’s second appearance on the Elevate podcast, and this time Samantha and Stu discuss:
How the market is tracking post-lockdown, and his predictions for the rest of 2020
His tips for bringing energy to online auctions
Stu’s process for working with agents and vendors in the lead-up to an auction
Why he thinks vendors should always go to auction in the current market
What goes on behind the scenes of his viral #VoteForStu videos
How declaring his fitness goals on Instagram helped him walk 5kms a day for 100 days
Stu’s love of basketball and how he gives back to the community
Why AI is not all it’s cracked up to be just yet
The buzzwords of 2020 and what they mean to Stu
plus much, much more.
Links and resources:
Stu’s video entry for Auctioneer of the Year
Dan Lee Plum Property
Black Dog
Beyond Blue
Westmead Children’s Hospital – Bandaged Bear
Hills Hornets Basketball Association – Stu’s Commentary
Stu’s videographer Lee Phillipson
Connect with Stu:
Connect with Stu on LinkedIn
Benson Auctions on Facebook
Benson Auctions on Twitter
Benson Auctions on Instagram
Benson Auction’s on YouTube
Hill’s Hornets Basketball Association
Stu’s personal Instagram, where you can follow his fitness journey


