
Cheaper Than Therapy with Vanessa and Dené
Vanessa Bennett and Dené Logan are two soul sisters and therapists who connected over their shared love of depth psychology—known as the psychology of the soul. It is a template for diving beneath the surface to examine the complex natures of being human while on the quest for wholeness, including the relationship to spirit. Through their training and lived experiences with depth, yogic psychology, and mindfulness, they developed a passion for supporting others in living their most authentic lives while cultivating a fulfilling and rich relationship with the Self, capital “S.”Every Wednesday, Vanessa and Dené look to demystify, de-stigmatize, and desensitize what goes on both inside the therapy room and in daily life, through soul-provoking conversations with fellow seekers, thought leaders, changemakers, and real people during live coaching sessions as they navigate the hard work it takes to be a human.This podcast is, for sure, Cheaper Than Therapy. Follow Cheaper Than TherapyInstagram: @cheaperthantherapypodcastTikTok: @cheaperthantherapypodYouTube: @cheaperthantherapypodcastConnect with Vanessa:Instagram: @vanessasbennettTikTok: @thecodayodaYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@vanessabennettlmft5631 Connect with Dené:Instagram: @dene.loganTikTok: @denelogan------------------------------ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Mar 9, 2022 • 54min
Ep 96 Authentic Wholeness with Krista Berlincourt
Krista Berlincourt is the CEO & Co-Founder of Kenshō Health, a company focused on bettering the lives of people by making wellness experts accessible. She is an internationally accredited coach and author who explores the wide world of shame, grief, joy, and all of the physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual things that make us human.We sat down with Krista to hear about her journey to becoming a CEO & co-founder, and how the realization that your life has been out of alignment can often offer the key to finding the work that you feel most inspired to do. We talk about where to begin when you’re feeling overwhelmed with what it means to find a holistic approach to healing, our cultural conditioning around being in the continuous state of chasing ‘more,’ and the tremendous service Kenshō offers by supporting patients in holistically connecting the dots to why they’ve been struggling with what they’ve been struggling with - and finding their way back to health. We were so inspired by this conversation with Krista and we know you will too!You can connect with Krista on social @kberlinc and her company Kenshō at @kenshohealthInterested in joining a live virtual group class with us? We lead a variety of wellness sessions every week in TAT Lab. Visit tatlab.app or @thetatlab on Instagram to learn more about the safe, supportive community created to help you on your journey to a better version of yourself.And if you love the conversations we’re bringing you as much as we do, please subscribe, rate, and write a review so we can get the podcast out to even more people! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Feb 23, 2022 • 28min
Ep 95 Dating with Curiosity - Live Coaching Session
In this live coaching session, we talk with Ashlyn about the journey of self-discovery she’s been on following her divorce.We discuss how impactful safe friendships can be in the process of reprogramming and reparenting ourselves, why all emotions are welcome, and having big emotions doesn’t mean we’re not fine (they’re actually just an indication that we’re human), how to approach our interactions while dating as an opportunity to learn more about ourselves, and the importance of modeling for our children that we are more than just their parents.Interested in joining a live virtual group class with us? We lead a variety of wellness sessions every week in TAT Lab. Visit tatlab.app or @thetatlab on Instagram to learn more about the safe, supportive community created to help you on your journey to a better version of yourself.And if you love the conversations we’re bringing you as much as we do, please subscribe, rate and write a review so we can get the podcast out to even more people!*These live coaching sessions are meant for entertainment purposes only and are not to replace therapy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Feb 16, 2022 • 58min
Ep 94 Creating Community by Holding Space with Sasha Cuff
Sasha Cuff is a Relational Somatic Practitioner who has spent the last 25 years studying trauma and trauma resolution of all types, along with exploring a multitude of healing modalities and cultural perspectives on wellness. Sasha is deeply committed to his own shadow work and helping others in an embodied way. We sit down with Sasha to discuss his work in somatic therapy and the fact that what we are experiencing psychologically is often a symptom of our biology. We talk about the physiological impact of our relational wounds, the extent to which developmental/childhood trauma can block access to relational healing, the role psychedelic therapy can play in deep integrative repair, and the importance of creating specific containers and after care protocols that hold space for processing as we navigate healing trauma with psychedelics.We were so inspired by this conversation with Sasha and we know you will be too!You can connect with Sasha through his classes on Nectara by visiting nectara.co; be sure to checkout his masterclass on the physiology of trauma.Interested in joining a live virtual group class with us? We lead a variety of wellness sessions every week in TAT Lab. Visit tatlab.app or @thetatlab on Instagram to learn more about the safe, supportive community created to help you on your journey to a better version of yourself. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Feb 9, 2022 • 33min
Ep 93 The Social Dilemma - Live Coaching Session
In this live coaching session, we talk with Olanna about the impact of social media on our romantic relationships. We dig into navigating the inevitable activations and how we might see them as an invitations to notice the narratives they bring up, how we bring our partners into the messy side of our inner work, the fears and historic wounds that social platforms can often bring to the surface, and how we balance vulnerability with holding respect for the autonomy and individual process of our partners.Interested in joining a live virtual group class with us? We lead a variety of wellness sessions every week in TAT Lab. Visit tatlab.app or @thetatlab on Instagram to learn more about the safe, supportive community created to help you on your journey to a better version of yourself.And if you love the conversations we’re bringing you as much as we do, please subscribe, rate and write a review so we can get the podcast out to even more people!*These live coaching sessions are meant for entertainment purposes only and are not to replace therapy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Feb 3, 2022 • 57min
Ep 92 Identifying Your Universe with Debra Silverman
Debra Silverman is an astrologer, teacher, psychotherapist, and author. Over the past 40 years, she has helped thousands of people—individuals, families, and couples—achieve emotional health and wisdom. We sit down with Debra to discuss the deep connection between astrology, psychology, and the transitional period we’re experiencing on a collective level. We discuss the freedom and balance that comes from observing ourselves and our astrological charts, how our social structures are facing critical and necessary change and the gift of living in a time where society’s glorification of ‘normal’ is being dismantled. Here’s good news: in the New Earth we’re creating, anything goes. We were both enamored by Debra’s humor and immeasurable knowledge of the cosmos - we know you will be too!You can connect with Debra on Instagram @debrasilverman_astrology and through her website at debrasilvermanastrology.com where you can order her book, The Missing Element. Be sure to check out her new class available on theshiftnetwork.com that launches today, February 2nd!Interested in joining a live virtual group class with us? We lead a variety of wellness sessions every week in TAT Lab. Visit tatlab.app or @thetatlab on Instagram to learn more about the safe, supportive community created to help you on your journey to a better version of yourself.And if you love the conversations we’re bringing you as much as we do, please subscribe, rate, and write a review so we can get the podcast out to even more people! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jan 27, 2022 • 33min
Ep 91 Dating as a Distraction - Live Coaching Session
In this live coaching session, we talk with Chelsea about certain patterns she’s noticed in her dating experiences over the last decade since her marriage ended. We dissect the commonly used phrase that comes up in the world of dating around finding “emotionally unavailable people” and how we can often be creating a distraction away from our own work when we’re fixing, helping, and mothering others in order to feel valued. We also explore how to begin to look at dating as an opportunity to stay curious and open hearted, understanding that we usually attract people who are mirrors of what we still need to look at and heal within ourselves.Interested in joining a live virtual group class with us? We lead a variety of wellness sessions every week in TAT Lab. Visit tatlab.app or @thetatlab on Instagram to learn more about the safe, supportive community created to help you on your journey to a better version of yourself.And if you love the conversations we’re bringing you as much as we do, please subscribe, rate and write a review so we can get the podcast out to even more people!*These live coaching sessions are meant for entertainment purposes only and are not to replace therapy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jan 19, 2022 • 57min
Ep 90 The Path to Sovereignty with Madison Morrigan
Madison Morrigan is an international award-winning life coach, leadership consultant, sovereignty guide, and host of the Everything Belongs podcast. Centered on self-belonging, sacred self-responsibility, spiritual freedom, and full expression, Madison coaches humans as they shed layers of old programming to come to their true selves. We sit down with Madison to explore the path she has taken to being such a potent guide to others on their healing journey. We discuss the somatic manifestations of trauma that often occur when we attempt to bypass acknowledging what we’ve been through, the experience of exile as an initiatory phase on the path to inner belonging, the collective sense of exhaustion we are experiencing from attempting to hold the opposing tensions of nuance and fear, and the sneaky ways some of our codependent tendencies can creep back in through outlets like social media and outsourcing our power to others. We were both blown away by Madison’s magnetic strength and wisdom. We know you will be too!You can connect with Madison on Instagram and TikTok @madisonmorrigan and through her website at madisonmorrigan.com. Be sure to also listen to her show, Everything Belongs, available wherever you listen to your podcasts. Interested in joining a live virtual group class with us? We lead a variety of wellness sessions every week in TAT Lab. Visit tatlab.app or @thetatlab on Instagram to learn more about the safe, supportive community created to help you on your journey to a better version of yourself.And if you love the conversations we’re bringing you as much as we do, please subscribe, rate, and write a review so we can get the podcast out to even more people! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jan 12, 2022 • 40min
Ep 89 The ‘Toxic Positivity’ Conversation
In this solo episode, we explore the conversation that seems to be coming up quite a bit around toxic positivity, and how using this phrase may impact our ability to stay curious and view others without judgment. We discuss the challenge around the loss of nuance that has come with the rise of mental health conversations happening on social media with character limits, the fact that life will inevitably hand us moments that we can’t bypass our way through, and that curiosity and judgment can’t live together - which is why we can’t form genuine connections with others if both are present.Interested in joining a live virtual group class with us? We lead a variety of wellness sessions every week in TAT Lab. Visit tatlab.app or @thetatlab on Instagram to learn more about the safe, supportive community created to help you on your journey to a better version of yourself.And if you love the conversations we’re bringing you as much as we do, please subscribe, rate, and write a review so we can get the podcast out to even more people! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Dec 22, 2021 • 25min
Ep 88 Compassion That Starts Within - Live Coaching Session
In this live coaching session, we talk with Dani about navigating some challenging dynamics in a newly formed relationship.We explore how to communicate our needs in a way that can be heard, why compassion is inauthentic if we don’t include ourselves, the challenges that come from seeing the best in someone no matter despite what our current experience is with them, and why someone needing us can be a challenging foundation on which to build a relationship. Interested in joining a live virtual group class with us? We lead a variety of wellness sessions every week in TAT Lab. Visit tatlab.app or @thetatlab on Instagram to learn more about the safe, supportive community created to help you on your journey to a better version of yourself.And if you love the conversations we’re bringing you as much as we do, please subscribe, rate, and write a review so we can get the podcast out to even more people!*These live coaching sessions are meant for entertainment purposes only and are not to replace therapy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Dec 15, 2021 • 1h 7min
Ep 87 Children as our Teachers with Katherine Winter-Sellery
We are so thrilled to have Katherine Winter-Sellery back with us on the podcast as our first returning guest! Katherine is a 3-time TEDx speaker, parenting coach, and mom of two. For over 20 years, she has been helping families thrive through her conscious guidance approach to parenting.We talk with Katherine about the gifts that come from meeting our children with a sense of humility, the antiquated idea that any resistance from a child should be seen as a form of disrespect, how our children hold up a mirror and offer insight into what happens for us when we feel out of control, and how to embrace parenting as a paradigm-shifting opportunity for us to do our own reparent work. Be sure to listen with a pen and paper close by for this episode to write down all of the phenomenal takeaways from Katherine. You can connect with Katherine on Instagram @katherinewintersellery and through her website consciousparentingrevolution.com.Interested in joining a live virtual group class with us? We lead a variety of wellness sessions every week in TAT Lab. Visit tatlab.app or @thetatlab on Instagram to learn more about the safe, supportive community created to help you on your journey to a better version of yourself.And if you love the conversations we’re bringing you as much as we do, please subscribe, rate, and write a review so we can get the podcast out to even more people! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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