

Commercially Speaking Podcast- Commercial Real Estate Investing That Entertains
Bo Barron, CCIM | Timmy Barron, ADHD
Commercial Real Estate investing has never been so entertaining. Hosted by two brothers, Bo, the eldest, is a CCIM instructor, CRE expert, CEO of Barron Commercial Group and Marine. Timmy, the MUCH younger one, is an improv comedian, award winning actor, and coach with ADHD who, “commercially speaking” is an idiot. With Bo’s gift for teaching, he breaks down complex concepts in a way that’s easy for anyone to understand, while Timmy tests that theory. Whether you’re a seasoned pro, investor, user of space or newbie to the world of Commercial Real Estate, this podcast was made for you!
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Jan 13, 2025 • 1h 17min
From $0 to CRE Millions: Beth Azor’s Secrets to Success
How do you turn fearless canvassing into a multi-million-dollar real estate portfolio? In this episode of Commercially Speaking, Bo and Timmy Barron sit down with Beth Azor, the “Canvassing Queen,” to explore her remarkable journey in commercial real estate.
Beth shares her secrets to prospecting success, breaking gender barriers in the CRE industry, and building wealth as an investor. With decades of experience as a leasing agent, property owner, and mentor, Beth delivers invaluable advice for brokers, landlords, and aspiring investors alike.
Key Takeaways:
How to master canvassing to fill vacancies and increase property value
Why women are underrepresented in CRE investing and how to change it
Lessons learned from Beth’s first deal and her rise to industry legend
The power of networking, resilience, and creativity in real estate
🎧 Listen now on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or YouTube for this inspiring conversation with a true CRE trailblazer!
Resources Mentioned:
Learn more about Beth’s workshops: azoracademy.com
Women Investor Wednesdays Podcast: Available Here
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00:00:00 - Start
00:02:59 - Beth Azor, The Canvassing Queen
00:07:07 - Beth’s 1st Deal
00:10:22 - Whatever You Know, Things Can Change
00:11:38 - Read The Documents
00:14:17 - Give It Up For $1,000,000?
00:19:00 - Don’t Say No For The Prospect
00:19:55 - Women Investor Wednesdays
00:22:30 - The REAL Reason Women Don’t Invest
00:24:42 - Other Reasons Women Don’t Invest
00:27:03 - Women’s Real Estate Summit {(https://www.azoracademy.com/)
00:29:39 - What Should The Men Know?
00:35:08 - Using Your Social Capital
00:36:05 - Start Talking About Money!
00:41:50 - Canvassing Secrets
00:44:45 - Never Ask For The Owner!
00:46:30 - Boots On The Ground While Sliding Into The DMs
00:50:43 - Get Straight To The Point
00:54:12 - Can You Teach Fearlessness?
00:58:58 - Let’s Not Gloss Over It Works
01:01:39 - Alex and Mario
01:06:48 - Hijos
01:08:28 - Pop Quiz

Dec 30, 2024 • 1h 12min
AI in CRE: How Technology is Transforming Real Estate Analysis and Strategy – [REPLAY]
Michael Hieronymus, founder of Duck Ridge Realty, dives into how AI is revolutionizing commercial real estate analysis and strategy. He discusses tools like Perplexity and Agent.AI that are transforming market analysis and workflow automation. Michael emphasizes the Rhodes framework for effective AI prompting and the benefits of using AI in lease abstraction and underwriting. He also touches on the potential of tokenization and blockchain technology in reshaping asset management. Get ready for innovative insights that could change the way you approach real estate!

Dec 23, 2024 • 1h 32min
Unlocking the Power of 1031 Exchanges: Save Taxes, Build Wealth - with 1031 BROKER JAMES BEAN
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Thinking about selling an investment property but worried about hefty taxes? In this episode of Commercially Speaking, Bo and Timmy Barron are joined by 1031 Exchange expert James Bean to demystify one of the most powerful tools in commercial real estate.
James breaks down the essentials of 1031 tax-deferred exchanges, how they work, and why they’re a game-changer for real estate investors looking to defer taxes and grow their wealth. From key rules to common myths, this episode is packed with insights to help you make smarter investment decisions.
Key Takeaways:
The 5 essential rules of a successful 1031 Exchange
How to identify properties within the 45-day timeline
The difference between like-kind exchanges and other strategies
Creative ways to build multi-generational wealth using 1031s
🎧 Don’t miss this deep dive into a cornerstone of real estate investing! Listen now on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or YouTube.
Resources Mentioned in the Episode:
Jame’s YouTube Channel: Best 1031 Online
Jame’s website: https://www.best1031online.com
Jame’s Phone (805)-779-1031
RSVP to our LIVE Ai Episode with Michael Hironimus via youtube: https://www.youtube.com/live/D7_SSfIRCn8
The link to call in during the LIVE Ai Episode: https://riverside.fm/studio/timmy-barrons-studio?t=760b365c65f49c6b8ba8
00:00:00 - Start
00:04:36 - Welcome!
00:13:35 - Becoming an expert in 1031 Tax Deferred Exchanges?
00:15:23 - The Net Lease World
00:19:11 - 1031 Information Gap
00:21:18 - 1031 101
00:22:44 - The 3 Identification Rules
00:27:41 - 5 Main Rules of the 1031
00:28:28 - 1. Equal To or Greater Than
00:29:32 - 2. You must use a QI (Accommodator)
00:34:27 - 3. Like Kind
00:37:21 - 4. 45 Days to Identify
00:38:34 - 5. 180 Days To Close
00:40:01 - Here’s How Powerful a 1031 is! (Let’s Do The Math)
00:44:04 - Multigenerational Wealth with a 1031
00:54:09 - For The Brokers Listening
00:57:25 - Do it Right Or Pay The Price
00:59:37 - Timmy’s Duke Joke
01:01:52 - 1031 Fails
01:04:49 - Identifying A Property
01:06:37 - Replacing Debt
01:10:28 - 1031 and Tax Season
01:12:43 - Never Assume Your Broker, Attorney or CPA Understands 1031
01:17:06 - How To Connect With 1031 Broker James
01:18:47 - Pop Quiz
01:25:59 - 1031 Broker James presents Bo-isms
01:27:28 - Listener Shoutouts
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Bo is a CCIM Instructor and the owner and operator of Barron Commercial Group servicing Western KY and it's surrounding markets.
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Dec 16, 2024 • 1h 8min
2025 CRE Predictions: Taxes, Tariffs, and Trends to Watch – LONNIE HENDRY & KEVIN BASSETT, CPA
Lonnie Hendry, the Chief Product Officer at Trepp, and Kevin Bassett, CPA at Bassett & Associates, dive deep into the commercial real estate landscape for 2025. They dissect potential tax changes and the impact of tariffs on real estate prices. The duo discusses rising interest rates and their implications on multifamily properties, particularly in the Sunbelt. They also explore how remote work is reshaping urban real estate dynamics and the demand for office spaces, revealing key investment opportunities amid an evolving economic climate.

Dec 9, 2024 • 1h 51min
Timmy Barron UNFLITERED: The Highs and Lows of a Creative Career – Ep. 82
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Mentioned in the Episode:
High School Band Director (Queen) - https://youtu.be/YG3Fi8vudis
Timmy’s Divorce Series - https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJds25eGwnIKLuv_oo9HzTphUE5ADq3ye&si=qeEaadwkKigQX_5y
127 Anytime Min (127 Hours Spoof) - https://youtu.be/Tpb6sTUTmnU?si=rtija0yU-1MnGaml
Barron & Barren Lawyer Commercial - https://youtu.be/JYuY8hSMWrM?si=bwiqO5MSpqFw2mX8
Bergess Griffer Series - https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHtqkhltFwPquy-5HzMySlXPd16M3XcXY&si=Ysy38mUrLkQL9tx8
Bergess Griffer’s Full Scene Live From The Second City - https://youtu.be/n-MvKJd9v6c?si=oXOFHueqvAzVsTgv
Acting Reels - https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJds25eGwnIJaer3RglnO8rvwzYJfGlgs&si=C1SM__zBvVdaTqZv
Dad Does Standup - https://youtu.be/x5BpSnhMydc
In this special episode of Commercially Speaking, Timmy Barron takes center stage! You’ve seen him play the “idiot” host alongside his brother Bo, but this time, we’re diving deep into Timmy’s fascinating life as an actor, comedian, and content creator.
From hilarious auditions and wild gigs to finding success in improv and landing an agent, Timmy shares the highs and lows of navigating the entertainment world. He talks about lessons learned at Second City, his adventures in Chicago’s comedy scene, and surprising connections between his creative career and commercial real estate.
Key Takeaways:
The story behind Timmy’s journey to Second City and improv success
How relationships and networking can change your career trajectory
The unexpected jobs that helped Timmy fund his creative dreams
Behind-the-scenes stories of acting, comedy, and coaching
🎧 Listen now on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or YouTube! Don’t forget to subscribe and leave a review!
00:00:00 - Start
00:08:11 - The Road to Chicago
00:09:49 - Timmy Almost Dies After Leaving a Gay Bar
00:11:52 - Too Scared To Walk Into Second City
00:14:58 - Completing The Second City Conservatories
00:19:25 - Cruise Ship Auditions
00:20:54 - “Bye Bye Liver” (Public House Theatre)
00:26:52 - Difference Between a Producer, Director & Executive Producer
00:30:42 - Timmy Signs His First Talent Agency
00:36:46 - Difference between an Agent & a Manager
00:40:02 - The transition to Commercials, TV and Film
00:45:55 - The Weirdest Audition Timmy Ever Did
00:54:21 - Work Begets Work
00:58:33 - Check Avail
00:59:11 - SAG-AFTRA Card - What is it and how do you get it?
01:06:06 - How COVID Changed The Audition Process
01:11:42 - Tiktok 2020 + Making Money
01:18:40 - SAG-AFTRA Strike 2023
01:21:32 - The Podcast, Tizbee and Current Projects
01:25:34 - Where Does Timmy Make His Money?
01:30:43 - CRE Branding and Content Creation
01:34:15 - Creating More Freedom
01:37:20 - Answering the final questions
01:42:14 - Shoutouts
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Bo is a CCIM Instructor and the owner and operator of Barron Commercial Group servicing Western KY and it's surrounding markets.
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Dec 2, 2024 • 1h 19min
The Power of Story: Crexi’s Shanti Ryle on Modern CRE Marketing
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In this episode of Commercially Speaking, Bo and Timmy Barron sit down with Shanti Ryle, Director of Content Marketing at Crexi (https://www.crexi.com) and producer of the award-winning Crexi Podcast (https://www.crexi.com/blog/podcast). Shanti shares her journey from SaaS marketing to becoming a voice in the commercial real estate (CRE) industry, using storytelling and strategic content to drive meaningful engagement.
Shanti offers valuable insights for brokers and business professionals, from leveraging consistency in brand marketing to creating authentic connections through content. Whether it's crafting compelling case studies, starting a podcast, or simply documenting your daily work, Shanti explains how to elevate your marketing game without overcomplicating the process.
Tune in to discover how Crexi stays ahead in CRE tech, what it takes to build a lasting brand, and why creativity and empathy are essential tools for modern marketers.
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Chapters:
00:00:00 - Coming Up
00:02:51 - TV Guardian
00:07:24 - Shanti Ryle of Crexi & The Crexi Podcast
00:09:36 - Name That Tune!
00:14:11 - How’d You Get Into CRE?
00:16:53 - Performing Artist on the side
00:18:24 - Bo’s Embarrassing Song
00:20:06 - How to Find the “Who” in “Who Not How”?
00:21:52 - Building Trust Through Storytelling
00:24:52 - How to Hire the Perfect Marketing Person?
00:25:50 - Brand Marketing vs Paid Advertising
00:29:48 - Creating a Brand Marketing Machine For A Boutique Brokerage
00:32:06 - Events
00:33:21 - Brand Marketing Checklist
00:35:24 - Case Study One Pagers
00:39:00 - You Don’t Need The Best Cameras or Audio Equipment
00:42:10 - Nail The Obvious Stuff
00:49:23 - Document over Create
00:51:46 - Patterns of Success You’ve Noticed From Hearing 100 CRE Success Stories
00:55:20 - 10+ Extra Hours a Week www.superpowershq.com/commerciallyspeaking
00:56:52 - Crexi - The Elevator Pitch
01:01:46 - What’s New With Crexi?
01:03:32 - What’s Next For Crexi?
01:07:24 - Pop Quiz
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Nov 25, 2024 • 1h 14min
What Every Commercial Real Estate Broker Should Learn from a Lender
In this episode of Commercially Speaking, Bo Barron and Timmy Barron welcome Isaac Grant, CCIM, a former commercial lender turned CRE broker, to share his inspiring journey from banking to brokerage.
Isaac reveals how his deep expertise as a lender has given him an edge in understanding the financial nuances of commercial real estate deals. From analyzing T12s to navigating today’s challenging lending environment, Isaac provides invaluable insights for brokers and investors alike.
Listen in as Isaac explains the importance of building strong relationships with lenders, knowing a bank's balance sheet, and understanding client motivations to close better deals. Plus, hear how he made the leap into the entrepreneurial world, balancing life as a family man with four kids while learning the ropes of brokerage.
If you’re curious about the transition from W2 to entrepreneurship or looking for insider tips on CRE finance, this episode is packed with wisdom you don’t want to miss.
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Chapters
00:00 Cold Open
03:01 Introduction of Isaac Grant
03:58 Isaac's Journey to Commercial Banking
06:09 Transitioning to Commercial Real Estate
10:21 The CCIM Experience
12:48 Making the Switch to Brokerage
21:13 First Deal as a Broker
22:08 Understanding T12 and P&L Statements
30:02 Current Lending Landscape
36:26 Navigating the Banking Environment
37:25 Navigating Interest Rates and Bank Liquidity
39:21 Market Forecasts and Federal Rate Cuts
41:44 The Role of Brokers in Commercial Real Estate
47:31 Building Relationships with Lenders
51:10 Transitioning from Broker to Investor
56:14 Understanding Cash on Cash Returns
01:00:32 Pop Quiz: Testing Knowledge in Real Estate
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Timmy is an actor, comedian, writer and host. You can follow him pretty much everywhere @timmyhartbarron

Nov 18, 2024 • 1h 7min
Take Back Your Time: How Virtual EAs Supercharge Entrepreneurs with Steven Neuner & Ryan Cassin
In this episode of Commercially Speaking, Bo Barron and Timmy Barron welcome Steven Neuner and Ryan Cassin, co-founders of Superpowers and authors of the new book Superpowered (learn more). Steven and Ryan share how their innovative company is helping entrepreneurs regain 10+ hours a week by matching them with Virtual Executive Assistants who act as partners in success.
Bo shares how his partnership with Superpowers has allowed him to focus entirely on his unique strengths, reducing stress and skyrocketing productivity. Steven and Ryan dive into the common challenges entrepreneurs face and how an executive assistant can proactively anticipate needs, solve problems, and help business leaders focus on what they do best.
If you’re an entrepreneur looking to scale your business, reduce stress, and finally delegate the tasks outside your zone of genius, this episode is a must-listen. Discover how to work smarter, not harder, and why hiring an EA might be the best investment you’ll ever make.
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00:00:00 - Start
00:02:51 - Intro
00:04:26 - An Organic Beginning
00:07:37 - The Book
00:10:16 - Virtual vs Executive Assistant
00:14:36 - All Our Executive Assistants Are From The Philippines
00:17:25 - The language barrier and time zone difference?
00:19:43 - The Pitfalls of having IRL Executive Assistants
00:21:35 - What If My Team Resents me?
00:23:51 - The Ideal Candidate For An EA
00:26:09 - The Onboarding Process
00:28:13 - 1st 30 days (Do They Know You?)
00:28:30 - 1st 60 days (Do They Understand You?)
00:28:49 - 90 Day Mark (Do They Anticipate Your Needs?)
00:29:33 - The Discovery Call
00:34:17 - How The EAs Are Trained To Understand You
00:37:05 - Freed Up To Perform More In Your Unique Ability
00:41:12 - No More Stress
00:44:18 - The Impact Of Not Letting Go
00:47:52 - How Frequently Is a Re-Matching Needed?
00:50:26 - Daily Syncs
00:51:41 - The EA Army
00:52:51 - Growing Together
00:53:30 - What EAs Want Their Entrepreneurs to know?
00:59:04 - The Book “SuperPowered”
01:02:01 - Entrepreneurs Are Best At Creating More Work
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For all CRE inquiries visit http://www.barroncommercial.com
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Nov 11, 2024 • 1h 4min
The Real Life of a CRE Broker: Stories of Success, Challenges, and Growth
In this episode of Commercially Speaking, Bo Barron, CCIM and Timmy Barron, ADHD welcome special guests Matt Stone and Justin Ryder, both CCIMs, to share their unique journeys from ministry to thriving careers in Commercial Real Estate (CRE). Matt, who owns his own brokerage in Lexington, KY, and Justin, a rising CRE influencer, both emphasize the human side of the business—describing their time in ministry as a “master’s degree in people.”
Matt recounts his early days when he joined a brokerage, not even realizing it focused on commercial, not residential, real estate. Meanwhile, Justin shares how a simple idea to post LinkedIn content led to unexpected deals and opened doors on a global level. Since launching his YouTube channel in early 2024, Justin has connected with an international audience and recently attended an exclusive NYC Gala with top CRE influencers, including Bo Barron.
This episode is a masterclass on connecting with people. Discover how caring for clients and reflecting empathy and expertise in real life and through your online presence can open doors in ways you might never expect. Whether you're starting in CRE or looking to expand your influence, Matt and Justin’s stories offer invaluable lessons.
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00:00 - Start
02:05 - Intro
05:51 - Bully Barron
08:22 - What Asset Would Timmy Buy?
09:10 - Starting From Zero
09:54 - What Lead You To CRE?
11:48 - How Does Commercial Real Estate Work?
12:38 - The Advantage of CCIM and SIOR
15:14 - CRE is More Than Buildings, It’s About People
16:39 - Creating a Culture For Brokers To Thrive
18:27 - Creating The Vision For The Company
19:43 - What’s Life Like As A Broker?
20:40 - The Wife Is Always Right
22:01 - A Deal Every 2 Weeks For 6 Years
28:21 - Social Media and Content Creation
31:15 - Clients Start Sliding Into My Linkedin DM
33:48 - Creating A Youtube Channel for CRE
39:49 - Thinking in 18 month Cycles
42:30 - Good Marketing Makes A Bad Product Fail Faster
44:02 - Caring, Helping, Serving is the recipe to a successful business
47:22 - Good Brokers Want To Help Business Owners Succeed
50:42 - The Best Media Is Your Authentic Self
52:49 - Did You Make Youtube Videos Before This?
55:03 - MassimoCon
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Nov 4, 2024 • 1h 6min
From OVERWHELM to CLARITY: Master MARKETING for CRE with Wes Gay [E077]
In this episode of Commercially Speaking, marketing expert Wes Gay joins Bo Barron and Timmy Barron to simplify the complex world of marketing for Commercial Real Estate (CRE) professionals and other business leaders. Wes is Donald Miller's top-recommended marketing expert and is known for helping brands “find the right words to make more money.”
Wes dives into the overwhelm many brokers feel, believing they need to be everywhere—on social media, billboards, ads, podcasts, email campaigns, and more. His message? Simplify your marketing. Start by honing in on your ideal client and their biggest problem. Once you have clarity, use empathy and authority to demonstrate your expertise and choose the right platforms that align with your strengths.
The conversation explores common mistakes brokers make, like using social media to impress peers instead of connecting with clients. Wes shares insights from Donald Miller’s Building a Story Brand, emphasizing the importance of positioning your clients as the heroes of their story and stepping into the role of the guide. He even explains how raising the stakes for your clients, like in great movies, can make your marketing more compelling.
Tune in to learn how to simplify your message, attract the right audience, and make a bigger impact—all while staying true to your unique strengths.
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Time Code
00:00:00 - Cold Open
00:01:51 - Intro
00:02:42 - Wes Gay (Storybrand Guide)
00:05:33 - Let’s Ruin Movies
00:07:19 - Simplify Your Message
00:09:37 - Stop Trying To Hit Everybody
00:12:51 - Sales To Scale
00:13:53 - Reverse Engineer Your Ideal Client
00:16:52 - What Problem Are You Solving?
00:19:49 - The Hero
00:22:48 - The Guide
00:23:52 - Silencing Ego
00:25:22 - Show Authority
00:27:56 - Marketing Overwhelm
00:29:28 - You Only Need 3 Channels
00:32:34 - Content Idea For Brokers
00:35:39 - What’s a broker again?
00:38:40 - Demonstrate Your Expertise
00:40:24 - Offer a Plan
00:41:06 - Success or Failure
00:45:05 - CRE Marketing Mastery Group
00:49:22 - You Don’t HAVE to do Social Media
00:54:03 - What Problem Did Pickleball Solve?
00:56:44 - Waffle House Index
00:57:31 - Pop Quiz
01:01:27 - Revisiting Brotherhood Trauma
01:04:39 - Outro
📒Show Notes📒
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Bo is a CCIM Instructor and the owner and operator of Barron Commercial Group servicing Western KY and it's surrounding markets.
For all CRE inquiries visit http://www.barroncommercial.com
Timmy is an actor, comedian, writer and host. You can follow him pretty much everywhere @timmyhartbarron


