
Gain Grow Retain
In the podcast dedicated to customer success leaders in the B2B SaaS and tech space, hosts Jeff Breunsbach and Jay Nathan share conversations about growing and scaling subscription businesses with a customer-first approach. The podcast is aimed at SaaS and technology leaders who are facing the day to day challenges of scaling.
This podcast is brought to you by Higher Logic.
Latest episodes

Jun 20, 2020 • 35min
Building customer success for Enterprise B2B SaaS w/ Matt Myszkowski
Matt Myszkowski joins us to talk about how he's part of the team building customer success at SAP. He's the VP for EMEA and has unique challenges when working Inside of a 90,000 person organization.
Building a Board Area and concentration around Customer Success
Change In the way leadership talks about Customer Success
Outcomes-based approach to the customer success team
Do we charge for customer success? Can this model work?Preferred Success (For the cloud-based portfolio of customers)Enhanced SLAs - tends to have a degree of value for some
Learning resources - help drive adoption and consumption
Success Resources - mini consulting packages
3xO ModelOutcomes - the Big Idea
Objectives - the SMART goals to get to the Outcomes
Operational Tactics - day-to-day basis
Let's elevate the conversations with our customers
Adoption Is the vehicle to get an outcome
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If you want to join the discussion with thousands of other customer success leaders, join Gain Grow Retain: http://gaingrowretain.com/
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This podcast is brought to you by Jay Nathan and Jeff Breunsbach of Customer Imperative, where we help B2B SaaS organizations build growth & retention strategies.
Learn more at https://customerimperative.com/
Jay Nathan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaynathan/
Jeff Breunsbach: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffreybreunsbach

Jun 16, 2020 • 43min
Customer success managers can get more strategic w/ Bob London
Bob London joins us today to talk about 'Listening In Customer Success.' He Is a career marketing executive and has turned his consulting business Into providing a unique perspective...from the customer's point of view.
In our discussion we cover:
Why listening matters to every business (and why we're not doing enough of It)
Retention Is more important than any other time In history of SaaS
We can't be forcing Interactions - It has to be valuable for both parties
Agendaless Listening - getting Insights for brand strategy and positioning
Most listening than talking - don't look to write down the answer on the clipboard
Role-playing can be effective for teams
Open-ended questions to ask: "What's on your whiteboard now that wasn't there 30 days ago?"
"What did you talk about once I left the room?"
"If your competitor contacted you tomorrow, from a scale of 1-5 - how likely are you to take that call?"
"What's the first thing you'd ask a renowned expert In your field?"
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Check out more on Bob's website: http://www.chieflisteningofficers.com/
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If you want to join the discussion with thousands of other customer success leaders, join Gain Grow Retain: http://gaingrowretain.com/
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This podcast is brought to you by Jay Nathan and Jeff Breunsbach of Customer Imperative, where we help B2B SaaS organizations build growth & retention strategies.
Learn more at https://customerimperative.com/
Jay Nathan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaynathan/
Jeff Breunsbach: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffreybreunsbach

Jun 11, 2020 • 11min
Launching a community for Customer Success Leaders
Today’s the day...
The most impactful customer success community launch in history: Gain Grow Retain is going live to the public.
What is Gain Grow Retain?
An open, free community, built by and for customer success leaders.
We have seen firsthand the power of #customersuccess leaders coming together to learn and grow professionally.
Please check out GainGrowRetain.com to become a contributing member.

Jun 8, 2020 • 35min
Q&A w/ Kristi Faltorusso: Relationship mapping, relationship dependency, & customer support and customer success
In a new weekly segment we've asked Kristi Faltorusso, VP of Customer Success at IntelliShift, to join us as we tackle Q&A that come Inbound.
Our goal: to give tactical, direct advice to customer success leaders.
Today's segment:
Relationship mapping at organizations
Too dependent on relationships
How does your customer make money?
Freemium, proof of concept and pilot - how are you onboarding customers and applying customer success resources?
Customer success and customer support In B2B SaaS
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This podcast is brought to you by Jay Nathan and Jeff Breunsbach of Customer Imperative, where we help B2B SaaS organizations build growth & retention strategies. Learn more at https://customerimperative.com/
Jay Nathan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaynathan/
Jeff Breunsbach: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffreybreunsbach

Jun 2, 2020 • 31min
Q&A w/ Kristi Faltorusso: Joining a new organization, evaluating talent, the customer journey
In a new weekly segment we've asked Kristi Faltorusso, VP of Customer Success at IntelliShift, to join us as we tackle Q&A that come Inbound.
Our goal: to give tactical, direct advice to customer success leaders.
Today's segment:
Coming In as a new leader at an organization
Business-case with the CFO
Gainsight Pulse: how do you execute so fast on your 120-day plan?
Evaluating talent and presenting current employees with new job offers
Management frameworks for teams
Big goal: developing the customer journey
Transactional mindsets versus retention mindsets
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This podcast is brought to you by Jay Nathan and Jeff Breunsbach of Customer Imperative, where we help B2B SaaS organizations build growth & retention strategies. Learn more at https://customerimperative.com/
Jay Nathan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaynathan/
Jeff Breunsbach: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffreybreunsbach

May 27, 2020 • 35min
’Sales’ and ’Customer Success’ in SMB B2B SaaS | Justin Welsh, The Official Justin
Justin Welsh joins us on the podcast, and he has a number of fantastic Insights to learn from his experience In sales roles at a number of B2B SaaS organizations. Justin coaches SMB SaaS founders and sales leaders to accelerate recurring revenue toward $50M.
In our discussion we cover:
We need to consider how we can listen better to our customers
His concept of One Continuous Conversation
Compensation could be shifting among the disciplines In a SaaS business
Justin doesn't like subjectivity In his ICP
Businesses need to find ways to run tests and have hypothesis In order to thrive
Each discipline needs to be thinking "What Information can I capture that will be useful for the next person?"
Leaders need to understand they're on the 'Executive' team first
If your sales people aren't selling the right things, then they don't know how a SaaS business becomes healthy
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Check out more on Justin's website: https://www.theofficialjustin.com/
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This podcast is brought to you by Jay Nathan and Jeff Breunsbach of Customer Imperative, where we help B2B SaaS organizations build growth & retention strategies. Learn more at https://customerimperative.com/
Jay Nathan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaynathan/
Jeff Breunsbach: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffreybreunsbach

May 25, 2020 • 59min
Q&A w/ Kristi Faltorusso: Joint Success Plans, Customer Marketing and What makes a healthy customer
In a new weekly segment we've asked Kristi Faltorusso, VP of Customer Success at IntelliShift, to join us as we tackle Q&A that come Inbound.
Our goal: to give tactical, direct advice to customer success leaders.
Today's segment:
Joint Success Plans
Customer Marketing
Customer Health
Executive Sponsors
Top Qualities In CSMs
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This podcast is brought to you by Jay Nathan and Jeff Breunsbach of Customer Imperative, where we help B2B SaaS organizations build growth & retention strategies. Learn more at https://customerimperative.com/
Jay Nathan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaynathan/
Jeff Breunsbach: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffreybreunsbach

May 20, 2020 • 33min
Marketing strategy and metrics need to adapt within B2B SaaS | Chris Walker, Refine Labs
We have Chris Walker, the CEO of Refine Labs, who has focused his career around the future of demand generation. His firm takes a firm approach to leading growth-stage SaaS companies.
We sat down to talk through the relationship between marketing and sales within this environment. Some key highlights:
-- Retention is generally a metric that is placed upon the CSM (who may not have much control over it). This should really become a business metric that even sales and marketing are held to.
-- Companies have to change their mindset about creating content that is valuable instead of creating content to try to drive leads. If you create valuable content then It can be used In multiple channels.
-- We're hindering the performance of our marketing teams because of the metrics we put on them. This leads to designing a sales and marketing process that aligns more with our process rather than the buyer's experience.
-- Big companies have not been adopting new marketing strategies because of 3 main reasons: (1) Companies are resistant to try new things (2) legal concerns with what your employees post (use it as an excuse rather than figure it out) (3) current content is garbage and their teams don't want to leverage It
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This podcast is brought to you by Jay Nathan and Jeff Breunsbach of Customer Imperative, where we help B2B SaaS organizations build growth & retention strategies. Learn more at https://customerimperative.com/
Jay Nathan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaynathan/
Jeff Breunsbach: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffreybreunsbach

May 8, 2020 • 24min
Building the relationship between customer success and finance | Jane Graham, Kronos
We're joined by Jane Graham, Vice President, Customer Success and Renewals at Kronos, to talk more deeply about the relationship between customer success and finance.
Building the relationship early allowed for 'speed' and effectiveness when putting a plan In place during COVID
Tracking key metrics - especially the Revenue and Cash-flow Impacts that will be realized during this situation
This relationship (learning more about the financials) benefits you and the types of conversations you can have with your customers - understanding the situation they might be facing given that this Is a B2B environment
Marketing, especially customer marketing, has been critical to driving value for the customer success team. Example: Learning about how to update pay-codes and packaging marketing material can be used by every CSM
"If you're talking about your customers' problems, ultimately you should be talking about the market problems"
Playbook design needs to be function over form - give your team flexibility to react to the situation
Hot tip: Meet with your procurement team to share procurement plays back and forth - help understand the techniques that may be used In the Enterprise software buying space
Give your customers access to Information that expands beyond your software and ultimately they will start to think of you as a partner
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This podcast is brought to you by Jay Nathan and Jeff Breunsbach of Customer Imperative, where we help B2B SaaS organizations build growth & retention strategies. Learn more at https://customerimperative.com/
Jay Nathan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaynathan/
Jeff Breunsbach: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffreybreunsbach

May 4, 2020 • 27min
Leading indicators for churn | CS Leadership Office Hours
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If you'd like to join CS Leadership Office Hours, sign up here:
https://tiny.cc/csofficehours
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What are the leading Indicators of churn that you're looking to Identify?
Relationship breadth
Relationship quality
Engagement (product, community, content)
Industry / Use Case Fit
Business Health
Presence of Competitor
Product & Support Performance
How are you tracking customer health and risk?
Mainly built Into tools like Salesforce with custom objects
Automated aspects Include product-level data and survey responses to a particular contact or account record
CSMs are Inputting notes from calls and tracking engagement from key stakeholders
How have they changed In the past 60 days?
Looking at daily trends of data rather than rolling averages to understand very quickly what Industries may be affected
COVID-Risk assessment to assess the risk within each Industry - then deploying playbooks for each of the Industries
Executive sponsor outreach has led to productive conversations
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This podcast is brought to you by Jay Nathan and Jeff Breunsbach of Customer Imperative, where we help B2B SaaS organizations build growth & retention strategies. Learn more at https://customerimperative.com/
Jay Nathan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaynathan/
Jeff Breunsbach: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffreybreunsbach