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Welcome to "Do This, NOT That!" - your ultimate destination for mastering marketing insights. Join us as we dive deep into the world of marketing, unlocking powerful strategies and game-changing tactics that will revolutionize your approach.
Our podcast offers actionable takeaways and practical advice to supercharge your marketing game. Explore the power of decision-making, the art of nurturing contacts, and the influence of loss aversion in marketing. Discover how anchoring and positive psychology can elevate your campaigns to new heights.
Unravel the secrets of understanding your audience's minds and tapping into behavioral science principles. We guide you on a journey to marketing mastery, empowering you to make the right decisions and drive remarkable results.
Tune in to "Do This, NOT That!" to unlock your full marketing potential, stay ahead in the competitive landscape, and embark on this thrilling marketing adventure with us!
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Regardless of your size, check out Marigold today to get the solution you need to grow your business!
Our podcast offers actionable takeaways and practical advice to supercharge your marketing game. Explore the power of decision-making, the art of nurturing contacts, and the influence of loss aversion in marketing. Discover how anchoring and positive psychology can elevate your campaigns to new heights.
Unravel the secrets of understanding your audience's minds and tapping into behavioral science principles. We guide you on a journey to marketing mastery, empowering you to make the right decisions and drive remarkable results.
Tune in to "Do This, NOT That!" to unlock your full marketing potential, stay ahead in the competitive landscape, and embark on this thrilling marketing adventure with us!
MASSIVE thank you to our Sponsor, https://meetmarigold.com/ (Marigold)!!
Marigold is a relationship marketing platform designed to help you acquire new customers and turn them into superfans with their best-in-class loyalty solutions. Don’t take my word for it though, American Airlines, Honeybaked Ham, Title Boxing, and Notre Dame University are also customers!
Regardless of your size, check out Marigold today to get the solution you need to grow your business!
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Jun 20, 2025 • 12min
3 Marketing Myths BUSTED! Quick WINS! 🔗 Jay’s SCOOP | Ep. 362
Jay Schwedelson takes on popular marketing myths that could be holding you back. Discover how posts with links on LinkedIn actually boost engagement and why resending emails isn’t spammy—it could increase clicks by 15%! He also sheds light on the power of content recycling, explaining that repeating successful posts is key to visibility. Plus, enjoy a quirky comparison of the pay jumps for Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders and reality stars, showcasing the wild side of compensation in entertainment!

Jun 20, 2025 • 21min
😳 Start Your Own Business? Side Hustle? Launch Your Digital Course? Best Selling Author! #1 Ranked Podcast Host w/Teresa Heath-Wareing | Ep. 361
If you think launching an online course is just about slapping together a few videos, think again. Jay Schwedelson sits down with the amazing Teresa Heath-Wareing to get real about what it actually takes to turn your expertise (or even just your favorite hobby) into a thriving digital business. Teresa opens up about why most people are focused on the wrong things, the actual numbers behind launching, and how she went from corporate marketing to running one of the world’s top business podcasts—plus, why she’s obsessed with Instagram and why email is still the ultimate secret weapon. If you’ve ever wondered, “Could I actually do this?” Teresa’s story and advice will give you a reality check in the best possible way.Follow Teresa on Instagram @teresa_heathwareing, listen to her “Your Dream Business” podcast on Apple Podcasts, and find resources on teresaheathwareing.com.Best Moments:(01:28) The “early midlife crisis” that kickstarted Teresa’s business journey(03:16) Losing her job and hustling to survive with no savings and a young daughter(06:00) Creating her first course—then being too terrified to sell it for a year(08:45) The cold truth about launching with no audience(10:45) Why building an email list matters more than anything else(14:00) How Teresa landed Pat Flynn and Amy Porterfield as her first podcast guests(17:30) The real math on launches: why you need more people than you think(19:24) Where to follow Teresa and why Instagram is her favoriteCheck out our 100% FREE + VIRTUAL EVENTS! ->Guru Conference - The World's Largest Virtual EMAIL MARKETING Conference - Nov 6-7!Register here: www.GuruConference.comㅤCheck out Jay’s YOUTUBE Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelsonCheck out Jay’s TIKTOK: https://www.tiktok.com/@schwedelsonCheck Out Jay's INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/jayschwedelson/ㅤMASSIVE thank you to our Sponsor, Marigold!!Email chaos across campuses, branches, or chapters? Emma by Marigold lets HQ keep control while local teams send on-brand, on-time messages with ease.Podcast & GURU listeners: 50 % off your first 3 months with an annual plan (new customers, 10 k-contact minimum, terms apply).Claim your offer now at jayschwedelson.com/emma

Jun 19, 2025 • 16min
[Limited Series]🥫SPAMAGEDDON🥫 11 Email Deliverability Hacks You Need Now 📬 | Ep. 360
You think you know email deliverability? Think again. Jay Schwedelson teams up with Guy Hanson and Danielle Gallant for a rapid-fire, no-nonsense "kitchen sink" episode of Spamageddon, where they serve up 10 essential (and sometimes controversial) deliverability tips. From wild British vs. American word wars to why the Gmail Promotions tab is scarier than you think, this one's packed with sharp takes and real talk on surviving the modern inbox.Best Moments:(01:10) British vs. American word chaos—table this or talk about it now?(05:08) DMARC’s “none” policy is a fraudster’s dream, and it’s about to become a problem for everyone.(06:23) Spam complaint rates—don’t settle for the “generous” 0.3%, aim for 0.1% or lower.(07:30) Double opt-in: future mandate or marketer’s nightmare?(09:41) Data hygiene starts at signup—think address validation, Captcha, and keeping bots out.(11:10) Delete those dormant subscribers or risk deliverability doom.(12:00) Use feedback loops to permanently ditch serial complainers.(13:19) Gmail is using AI to auto-insert promo annotations—take control before weird images show up.(15:12) AI summaries are coming for your emails—start thinking SEO and alt text, now.(16:40) Don’t blast at the top of the hour if you want your emails to actually land.(17:39) Accessibility issues are everywhere—don’t let your emails be part of the 90% problem.(18:24) New AI laws mean you need to update privacy and rethink your risk, pronto.(19:16) BIMI and logo verification—don’t be the email sender with no face in the inbox.Guy and Danielle invite you to check out the Email After Hours podcast and explore deliverability tools and guidance from Validity.Check out our 100% FREE + VIRTUAL EVENTS! ->Guru Conference - The World's Largest Virtual EMAIL MARKETING Conference - Nov 6-7!Register here: www.GuruConference.comㅤCheck out Jay’s YOUTUBE Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelsonCheck out Jay’s TIKTOK: https://www.tiktok.com/@schwedelsonCheck Out Jay's INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/jayschwedelson/ㅤMASSIVE thank you to our Sponsor, Marigold!!Email chaos across campuses, branches, or chapters? Emma by Marigold lets HQ keep control while local teams send on-brand, on-time messages with ease.Podcast & GURU listeners: 50 % off your first 3 months with an annual plan (new customers, 10 k-contact minimum, terms apply).Claim your offer now at jayschwedelson.com/emma

Jun 18, 2025 • 9min
Newsletter Hacks & Nepo Babies? Yup. 😏 Ask Us ANYTHING❓ | Ep. 359
Discover a clever way to transform your inbox into a treasure trove of marketing insights using ChatGPT and strategic email hacks. Learn how to curate newsletters tailored to your industry needs, enhancing your knowledge without the usual networking grind. The conversation takes an unexpected turn as the hosts explore nepotism in entertainment, revealing the challenges faced by celebrity offspring. From industry-specific tactics to the pressures of legacy, there's something to pique everyone's interest.

Jun 17, 2025 • 8min
‘Quick Fix’ & ‘Growth’ = 20% Increase! ➕ Meta News (WhatsApp Ads!) What’s Up THIS WEEK | Ep. 358
Meta’s finally doing it—ads are coming to WhatsApp. Jay Schwedelson explains what that means for marketers (especially if you’re already running ads on Facebook or Instagram). Plus, you’ll learn a sneaky trick to boost your content downloads, get a disturbing stat about AI relationships, and hear what restaurant chain is opening more locations than seems humanly possible.Best Moments:(00:50) WhatsApp is opening up to ads for the first time ever(01:49) “Growth,” “micro,” and “quick fix” as secret weapons for content titles(04:04) 16% of singles are open to AI relationships—and most people don’t think it’s cheating(05:29) Starbucks opened 589 new stores last year, and that’s somehow not the weirdest stat(06:28) “Echo Valley” is the new Apple TV thriller, but Jay’s hyped about something way more wholesomeCheck out our 100% FREE + VIRTUAL EVENTS! ->Guru Conference - The World's Largest Virtual EMAIL MARKETING Conference - Nov 6-7!Register here: www.GuruConference.comㅤCheck out Jay’s YOUTUBE Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelsonCheck out Jay’s TIKTOK: https://www.tiktok.com/@schwedelsonCheck Out Jay's INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/jayschwedelson/ㅤMASSIVE thank you to our Sponsor, Marigold!!Email chaos across campuses, branches, or chapters? Emma by Marigold lets HQ keep control while local teams send on-brand, on-time messages with ease.Podcast & GURU listeners: 50 % off your first 3 months with an annual plan (new customers, 10 k-contact minimum, terms apply).Claim your offer now at jayschwedelson.com/emma

Jun 16, 2025 • 12min
SPECIAL SERIES == Attribution is Garbage 🗑️ <== | BATHROOM Break #60 COLLAB: The Marketing Millennials + Do This, Not That
Most marketers think attribution is the answer to everything, but Jay Schwedelson and Daniel Murray take it apart with stories about chasing TikTok-famous restaurants, tracking referrals that don't show up in dashboards, and why "where did you hear about us?" is still the secret weapon. Turns out, the biggest marketing fights aren't about numbers—they’re about team alignment. Plus, you’ll get their real-life hacks for finding hidden gem restaurants (spoiler: Reddit and TikTok win).Best Moments:(00:56) Daniel finally scores a cool invite from a Miami restaurant thanks to his newsletter(02:31) Attribution is a compass, not a map—most marketers get lost by taking it too literally(03:21) Jay explains why last-touch attribution is nonsense, especially for anything more expensive than a phone case(05:39) Why obsessing over Facebook dashboard numbers makes marketers miss the real sales cycle(06:54) Jay’s agency rips out their website for a single “book a call” page—here’s what happened(08:42) Alignment, not attribution, is where the real fights (and fixes) happen between sales, marketing, and finance(09:25) The top companies put marketing leadership on actual sales calls—spreadsheets aren’t enough(10:18) How “where did you hear about us?” and AI-powered call analysis catch what dashboards miss(10:37) The surprisingly non-glamorous way Daniel finds new restaurants (hint: TikTok, Reddit, and a lot of menu stalking)Go follow The Marketing Millennials podcast, but also tune in to this series—Bathroom Break—for quick marketing tips and more. Tell Daniel and Jay what you want to hear next by reaching out on LinkedIn.Check out our 100% FREE + VIRTUAL EVENTS! ->Guru Conference - The World's Largest Virtual EMAIL MARKETING Conference - Nov 6-7!Register here: www.GuruConference.comㅤCheck out Jay’s YOUTUBE Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelsonCheck out Jay’s TIKTOK: https://www.tiktok.com/@schwedelsonCheck Out Jay's INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/jayschwedelson/ㅤMASSIVE thank you to our Sponsor, Marigold!!Email chaos across campuses, branches, or chapters? Emma by Marigold lets HQ keep control while local teams send on-brand, on-time messages with ease.Podcast & GURU listeners: 50 % off your first 3 months with an annual plan (new customers, 10 k-contact minimum, terms apply).Claim your offer now at jayschwedelson.com/emma

Jun 13, 2025 • 11min
7 NEW Subject Line Tests (you've NEVER tried!) + Guys Trip Update! 📬 Jay’s SCOOP | Ep. 356
Sometimes, marketing advice gets a little wild, and that’s what makes this episode a must-listen. Jay Schwedelson is on a mission to shake you out of boring subject lines with A/B tests that are completely opposite. Think “you don’t need this email” vs. “you absolutely need this email,” or "letting your inner guilt trip loose." You’ll pick up plenty of unexpected ideas (and maybe rethink what “we need to talk” really means), plus get a peek into Jay’s annual guys trip and his quest for the world’s most embarrassing gag gifts.Best Moments:(01:32) Reverse psychology wins with “you don’t need this email” pulling a 17 percent higher open rate(02:20) Humanity trumps robots when “a human with three cups of coffee wrote this” beats out AI(03:34) “Boom. Offer inside” vs. “Psst. Over here”—and the quiet approach steals the show(04:15) “We need to talk” outperforms “you left us no choice” by 19 percent(05:02) Passive-aggressive guilt pays off when “still ignoring us?” gets a 21 percent lift(06:01) “Not mad. Just disappointed” nails the parent-text vibe with a 12 percent higher open rate(06:32) “Fine. I’ll open it” (the inner monologue test) crushes with a 26 percent boost(08:45) Jay’s pool party humiliation story and the legend of the “I pee in pools” shirtDynamic DTNT sponsors and callouts

Jun 13, 2025 • 19min
People Trust People: The Future of Brand Trust w/WORKWEEK: Co-Founder & CEO Adam Ryan | Ep. 355
You never know where someone’s career will take them, and Jay Schwedelson is totally fascinated by Adam Ryan’s unconventional path—from ninth-grade American government teacher to building the B2B creator community platform Workweek. Adam breaks down why the future of content and community isn’t about brands, but about real, trusted personalities—and why “community” might be the most overused word in marketing right now.Check out everything Adam and his team are building at Workweek, and explore their creator-led communities and content: https://workweek.com/Best Moments:(01:45) Lesson plans at 6:30 AM and why Adam left teaching for good(02:33) Your career isn’t linear—scroll Adam’s LinkedIn if you need proof(04:45) People crave learning from individuals, not faceless brands(07:45) When you need trust, a real human should lead your newsletter—even if it’s ghostwritten(11:13) Why most brand “communities” flop and how Workweek thinks differently(14:06) Engagement loops are the secret sauce to keeping communities alive(17:01) The TikTok lesson: relevance is everything for ongoing community valueCheck out our 100% FREE + VIRTUAL EVENTS! ->Guru Conference - The World's Largest Virtual EMAIL MARKETING Conference - Nov 6-7!Register here: www.GuruConference.comㅤCheck out Jay’s YOUTUBE Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelsonCheck out Jay’s TIKTOK: https://www.tiktok.com/@schwedelsonCheck Out Jay's INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/jayschwedelson/ㅤMASSIVE thank you to our Sponsor, Marigold!!Email chaos across campuses, branches, or chapters? Emma by Marigold lets HQ keep control while local teams send on-brand, on-time messages with ease.Podcast & GURU listeners: 50 % off your first 3 months with an annual plan (new customers, 10 k-contact minimum, terms apply).Claim your offer now at jayschwedelson.com/emma

Jun 12, 2025 • 10min
[Limited Series]🥫SPAMAGEDDON🥫 Promotions Tab ≠ Doom 🧠 | Ep. 354
Think your emails are tanking just because they land in Gmail’s promotions tab? Jay Schwedelson teams up with Danielle Gallant and Guy Hanson for Spamageddon—a crossover mini-series that’s equal parts email myth-busting and inbox apocalypse survival kit. This time, they’re going deep on the tab that everyone blames for their marketing woes, debunking the panic with data, real user behavior, and a few shots at turkey pardoning. If you think the promotions tab is your biggest problem, you might want to listen twice.Best Moments:(01:30) Why does the US president pardon a turkey—and do Brits secretly judge us for it?(03:40) Danielle nails four reality dating shows in under ten seconds (and teases her reality TV debut)(06:50) The myth about promotions tab “killing” your email performance(08:20) How many people actually use tabs in Gmail and Apple—and why open rates don’t tell the whole story(10:05) Should you “game the system” to escape promotions? Here’s what mailbox providers will do if you try(13:30) Gmail’s annotations and why being in the promotions tab can actually boost your marketing(15:10) Apple’s new tabs: why it’s a tiny slice of users and why you probably shouldn’t care (yet)Subscribe to Email After Hours podcast for more real talk from Danielle and Guy.Check out our 100% FREE + VIRTUAL EVENTS! ->Guru Conference - The World's Largest Virtual EMAIL MARKETING Conference - Nov 6-7!Register here: www.GuruConference.comㅤCheck out Jay’s YOUTUBE Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelsonCheck out Jay’s TIKTOK: https://www.tiktok.com/@schwedelsonCheck Out Jay's INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/jayschwedelson/ㅤMASSIVE thank you to our Sponsor, Marigold!!Email chaos across campuses, branches, or chapters? Emma by Marigold lets HQ keep control while local teams send on-brand, on-time messages with ease.Podcast & GURU listeners: 50 % off your first 3 months with an annual plan (new customers, 10 k-contact minimum, terms apply).Claim your offer now at jayschwedelson.com/emma

Jun 11, 2025 • 10min
40% BOOST! Offers + Content Working RIGHT NOW! + Celebrity Gossip! 🛩️ ASK US ANYTHING!!! | Ep. 353
You ever wonder why some content just falls flat while other stuff is suddenly blowing up, even when it feels like not much has changed? Jay Schwedelson has a wild take on why your old playbook is getting ignored—and the data behind what’s actually clicking right now. From what business marketers can steal from the latest consumer trends to the absolutely bonkers headlines coming out of celebrity gossip, this episode is equal parts useful and ridiculous in the best way.Best Moments:(01:07) Denver’s airport is apparently the worst-smelling in America and Jay’s not over it(01:45) Why your “safe” content is out of touch and what the data says about switching it up(03:01) Economic-related offers are seeing a 40% spike in downloads for B2B—yes, 40%(04:15) Easy ways to make your content feel hyper-relevant right now (and Jay’s favorite email subject lines)(05:09) How to make savings content fun without sounding desperate(06:30) Jay’s surprisingly nuanced takes on Timothy Chalamet, Kylie Jenner, and celebrity relationship gossip(08:35) Pro tips on happiness from the Billy Ray Cyrus-Elizabeth Hurley situation—plus Jay invites himself to their weddingCheck out our 100% FREE + VIRTUAL EVENTS! ->Guru Conference - The World's Largest Virtual EMAIL MARKETING Conference - Nov 6-7!Register here: www.GuruConference.comㅤCheck out Jay’s YOUTUBE Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelsonCheck out Jay’s TIKTOK: https://www.tiktok.com/@schwedelsonCheck Out Jay's INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/jayschwedelson/ㅤMASSIVE thank you to our Sponsor, Marigold!!Email chaos across campuses, branches, or chapters? Emma by Marigold lets HQ keep control while local teams send on-brand, on-time messages with ease.Podcast & GURU listeners: 50 % off your first 3 months with an annual plan (new customers, 10 k-contact minimum, terms apply).Claim your offer now at jayschwedelson.com/emma