
AI-Driven Marketer: Master AI Marketing To Stand Out In 2025
I'm just a marketer on a mission to master AI in 2025 by interviewing AI tech founders, AI leaders, and marketing practitioners who are getting great results with AI today. Let's master this thing together. Follow this show to join me on the journey.#danchez
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Mar 14, 2025 • 39min
China's AI: A Real Threat or Just Another Media Sensation?
In this AI marketing podcast episode, Dan Sanchez and Travis Sanchez cut through the AI news cycle to separate the help from the hype. They dive into the recent wave of sensational headlines around Chinese AI developments, questioning whether these advancements truly matter or are just media-driven distractions. The discussion also covers the rapidly evolving landscape of AI voice technology, highlighting the breakthrough performance of Sesame AI and its potential for transforming marketing, customer service, and lead generation. Finally, they explore OpenAI’s latest developer tools, which could change the game for automation and web-based AI research. Tune in to get the real scoop on what's worth paying attention to in AI.My Favorite AI Tools: ChatGPT - https://openai.com/ High Level Marketing Platform - https://danchez.com/highlevel AI Podcasting Tools - https://danchez.com/podtoolsResources Mentioned: Sesame AI (Voice AI Demo) - https://sesame.ai Runway ML (AI Video Generation) - https://runwayml.com Social Media Marketing World (AI Marketing Track) - https://danchez.com/world Michael Stelzner’s AI Explored Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/conversing-with-the-future-my-mind-blowing-experiment/id1740971373?i=1000698407762 Olga's LinkedIn post - https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7303766258078916608/Timestamps: 0:00 - Separating AI Help from AI Hype 1:09 - China’s AI Developments: Real Innovation or Just Media Noise? 6:01 - ChatGPT vs. Competitors: Who's Really Leading? 10:22 - Sesame AI: The Best AI Voice Model Yet? 15:09 - How AI Voice Could Transform Customer Service & Sales 20:49 - The Future of AI-Powered Lead Generation & CRM 27:46 - OpenAI’s New Dev Tools: What Marketers Need to Know 39:07 - AI Risk vs. Reward: A Useful Framework for Marketers 40:42 - Social Media Marketing World: AI Marketing Track Announcement

Mar 7, 2025 • 47min
AI With Personality, State of AI Marketing Jobs, & Does ChatGPT 4.5 Suck?
In this AI marketing podcast episode, Dan Sanchez and his brother, Travis Sanchez, break down the latest in AI marketing trends. They discuss the controversy around ChatGPT-4.5—whether it's a real upgrade or just hype—along with tips on how to personalize your ChatGPT experience for a more interactive and useful assistant. They also dive into deep research with AI, how marketers can leverage AI-driven insights for audience research, and even explore the emerging role of AI in job descriptions. Plus, don’t miss their take on the most impressive AI-generated ad they’ve seen yet!My Favorite AI Tools ChatGPT - https://openai.com/ High Level Marketing Platform - https://danchez.com/highlevel AI Podcasting Tools - https://danchez.com/podtoolsResources Mentioned Viral AI Video: https://x.com/PJaccetturo/status/1896983633921294773 Michael Stelzner & Social Media Examiner’s AI Business Society - https://www.socialmediaexaminer.com/ai/ Danchez’s Deep Research Toolkit - https://danchez.com/deep Grok AI by X (formerly Twitter) - https://grok.com David Goggins Motivation (Reference) - https://davidgoggins.com/Timestamps (00:01) - Intro: Separating AI hype from reality (00:15) - ChatGPT 4.5: Is it a major upgrade or overhyped? (01:39) - Personalizing ChatGPT for a better AI assistant (05:47) - AI personalities: Creating an assistant that matches your workflow (12:20) - ChatGPT’s Pro model: Is it worth the cost? (22:41) - The future of AI-generated applications and tools (27:56) - Deep research: AI-powered audience and competitor insights (35:08) - How many marketing jobs now require AI skills? (44:56) - AI-generated commercials: The future of ad creation?

Mar 4, 2025 • 48min
Why My Marketing Career Needed AI—and Yours Does Too
In this AI marketing podcast episode, Dan Sanchez shares his journey from marketing automation to AI-driven marketing. He discusses his early experiences at Sweet Fish Media, Element 451, and Social Media Examiner, and how he recognized AI as the future of marketing. Dan breaks down his 30-30-30 framework for mastering a subject, reveals his automated podcast production workflow, and explains his AI-assisted book-writing process. If you're a marketer looking to streamline workflows and harness AI for growth, this episode is packed with actionable insights.My Favorite AI Tools: ChatGPT - https://openai.com/ High Level Marketing Platform - https://danchez.com/highlevel AI Podcasting Tools - https://danchez.com/podtoolsResources Mentioned: Social Media Examiner - https://www.socialmediaexaminer.com/ Sweet Fish Media - https://sweetfishmedia.com/ Element 451 - https://element451.com/ N8N (Automation Tool) - https://n8n.io/ Suno AI (Music AI Tool) - https://suno.ai/ Zencastr - https://zencastr.com/ Marketing Experiments (Flint McGlaughlin) - https://marketingexperiments.com/ Keap (Infusionsoft) - https://keap.com/Timestamps: [00:00] - Intro: Dan Sanchez's background and marketing journey [02:00] - The "Ultimate Marketer" moment at Infusionsoft [05:30] - Podcasting, social media, and the Sweet Fish Media era [10:00] - The pivot to AI: Why Dan bet big on AI marketing [17:00] - The 30-30-30 framework: How to become an expert fast [24:00] - AI-powered podcast automation: The workflow breakdown [33:00] - Co-writing a book with AI: Process and best practices [41:00] - The five types of AI marketing and their impact [45:00] - The future of AI marketing: Trends and opportunities

Feb 28, 2025 • 44min
ChatGPT 4.5, Claude 3.7, & The Deep Research Prompt You Don't Want to Miss #BotBros
In this AI marketing podcast episode, Dan Sanchez and Travis break down a massive week of AI news, including the launch of ChatGPT 4.5, Claude 3.7, and Grok 3. They explore how ChatGPT 4.5 smooths out the rough edges of its predecessor, making content generation even more powerful for marketers. They also discuss the strategic battle between AI models and why OpenAI rushed to release 4.5 early to undercut Claude 3.7’s momentum.The conversation dives into the importance of deep research for marketers, with Dan sharing a viral prompt that helps uncover the most frequently asked audience questions across forums and social media. They also discuss Amazon’s AI push with Claude integration, the growing concerns around AI privacy, and the rapid acceleration of AI development. If you’re a marketer looking to stay ahead of the game, this episode is packed with insights you won’t want to miss.My Favorite AI Tools: ChatGPT - https://openai.com/ High Level Marketing Platform - https://danchez.com/highlevel AI Podcasting Tools - https://danchez.com/podtoolsResources Mentioned: Dan's viral LinkedIn post: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/digitalmarketingdan_danchez-activity-7300918456713969664-CuJM?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop&rcm=ACoAAAJq6gwB_q7tbdFevQk2MATQbXLntrfkInA AI Riding a bike: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEv4ZfOwCPA AI Business Society Community - https://danchez.com/societyTimestamps: 00:01 - Introduction and why this week’s AI news is huge 00:37 - ChatGPT 4.5 release: What’s new and why it’s a game-changer 03:28 - Why OpenAI called it 4.5 instead of 5.0 08:07 - The unexpected release of Claude 3.7 and OpenAI’s strategic counter-move 10:57 - Grok 3’s moment of fame and how it compares to ChatGPT 13:25 - Deep research in ChatGPT: Dan’s viral prompt for audience insights 19:32 - The case for upgrading to ChatGPT Pro for deep research 22:05 - Amazon’s AI expansion and Jeff Bezos’ full-time return 26:32 - Poll results: Are companies providing AI training? 32:23 - Why marketers need to double down on custom GPTs 40:43 - The acceleration of AI development: What’s next?

Feb 26, 2025 • 11min
Can You Automate SEO with AI? I Tested It for a Year
In this AI marketing podcast episode, Dan Sanchez shares the results of a bold AI SEO experiment he conducted over the past year. After investing $500 in an AI-powered blogging tool, Dan set up multiple websites to test if fully automated AI content could drive traffic and revenue. The results? A mix of surprising insights, major pitfalls, and hard-earned lessons. Tune in as Dan breaks down what worked, what failed, and how AI should really be used for content creation in today’s SEO landscape.Best AI Tools ChatGPT - https://openai.com/ High Level Marketing Platform - https://danchez.com/highlevel AI Podcasting Tools - https://danchez.com/podtoolsResources Mentioned AppSumo - https://appsumo.com/ WP Autoblog (AI SEO Tool) - https://wpautoblog.com/ WPX Hosting - https://wpx.net/Timestamps 00:00 – The $500 AI SEO Experiment Begins 00:10 – The AI Tool: WP Autoblog & Setup Process 03:45 – The Content Strategy: Automated Mass Blogging 07:15 – The Problems with AI-Generated Content 10:30 – The Surprising SEO Outcome (It Worked… Kind of?) 13:50 – Why AI Content Didn’t Drive Real Traffic 16:10 – The Fatal Flaws of Fully Automated SEO 19:30 – What Actually Works? How to Use AI for Content the Right Way 22:00 – The Future of AI in SEO & Generative Engine Optimization (GEO)

Feb 23, 2025 • 45min
Grok 3, Deep Research, ChatGPT 4.5, & The Early Days of AI Marketing #BotBros
In this AI marketing podcast episode, Dan Sanchez and Travis Sanchez break down the biggest AI news of the week, including the launch of Grok 3, Microsoft’s supercomputer chips, and OpenAI’s roadmap for GPT-4.5 and GPT-5. They discuss how Grok 3 is competing with the best AI models, why Microsoft’s chip development matters for AI progress, and how OpenAI’s deep research tools are reshaping marketing strategies. Dan also shares a game-changing approach for using AI deep research to create high-impact lead magnets. If you’re a marketer looking to stay ahead of the AI curve, this episode is packed with insights you won’t want to miss.My Favorite AI Tools ChatGPT - https://openai.com/ High Level Marketing Platform - https://danchez.com/highlevel AI Podcasting Tools - https://danchez.com/podtoolsResources Mentioned Grok 3 AI Model - https://grok.com/ OpenAI’s GPT-4.5 & GPT-5 Roadmap - https://x.com/sama/status/1889755723078443244 Perplexity AI - https://www.perplexity.ai/ Rand Fishkin’s Post on GEO - https://www.linkedin.com/posts/randfishkin_we-know-people-are-using-ai-tools-we-know-activity-7292630703035273216-jhy2/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop&rcm=ACoAAAJq6gwB_q7tbdFevQk2MATQbXLntrfkInA Social Media Marketing World 2025 - https://www.socialmediaexaminer.com/smmworld/Timestamps (00:36) – The AI race: How Grok 3 is making waves in the AI space (04:34) – Grok 3 vs. ChatGPT: Which AI model is winning? (08:25) – OpenAI’s GPT-4.5 update and what it means for marketers (14:42) – Google’s AI ecosystem: Is it catching up to OpenAI? (20:55) – Deep research in AI: The game-changing tool marketers should be using (24:59) – How to use AI deep research to create high-performing lead magnets (33:13) – Why AI adoption is still in its early stages (40:17) – The rise of GMO (Generative Machine Optimization) and why it matters (45:35) – Final thoughts: What marketers should be focusing on right now

Feb 19, 2025 • 24min
5 Stages of AI Agents & How Marketers Can Prepare Now
AI agents are generating a lot of buzz right now, but how close are we to fully autonomous AI? In this episode of The AI-Driven Marketer, host Dan Sanchez (Dances) cuts through the hype to break down the five stages of AI agents and what marketers need to do to stay ahead. From simple automation to full AI autonomy, Dan lays out a roadmap for how AI will evolve in the coming years and how marketers can start preparing now. Whether you're just getting started with AI automation or you're ready to build intelligent workflows, this episode is packed with actionable insights to future-proof your marketing strategy.Resources Mentioned: AI Fundamentals Course: https://danchez.com/courses/ai-fundamentals/ N8N (AI Automation Platform): https://n8n.io/Timestamps:00:00 - Introduction: The AI Agent Hype02:00 - What Is an AI Agent? Defining the Term04:30 - The Five Levels of AI (From Chatbots to Full Autonomy)07:45 - Where Are We Now? AI's Progress in 202410:15 - The 5 Stages of AI Agents12:00 - Stage 1: Automation with AI (Simple AI-Powered Workflows)14:45 - Stage 2: Intelligent Automation (AI Begins to Think for You)17:30 - Stage 3: AI-Assisted Automation (AI Helps Build Campaigns)20:15 - Stage 4: AI-Led Automation (AI Makes Key Decisions)23:00 - Stage 5: Fully Autonomous AI Agents (The Future of AI in Marketing)26:45 - Predictions: How Fast Will AI Agents Advance?29:30 - Practical Steps to Prepare for AI Agents Today32:00 - Why Most Marketers Are Still Behind (And How to Get Ahead)34:45 - Closing Thoughts: The AI Learning Curve and Next StepsKey Takeaways: AI agents are not fully autonomous yet, but they are rapidly evolving. Most "AI agents" today are actually just automated workflows with AI enhancements. The transition from AI-assisted automation to AI-led automation will be a game-changer for marketers. Marketers should start experimenting with AI-powered automation tools now to stay competitive. Full AI autonomy is likely less than two years away—prepare by learning automation now.Subscribe & Review:If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe and leave a review on your favorite podcast platform. Your feedback helps us bring more AI-driven marketing insights to you!

Feb 12, 2025 • 9min
The AI Paradox: How to Make the Most of What AI Can & Can't Do
In this AI marketing podcast episode, Dan Sanchez dives into the intriguing concept of Moravec's Paradox, examining why AI can excel in complex tasks like advanced math yet fumble over simple tasks such as counting survey responses. He unpacks the paradox, revealing how marketers can navigate and leverage these peculiar strengths and weaknesses of AI. By understanding where AI struggles and succeeds, Dan provides insights on building systems that maximize AI's potential while mitigating its shortcomings. Tune in for strategic advice on staying ahead in the ever-evolving AI landscape and discover how to use Moravec's Paradox to your advantage as a savvy AI-driven marketer.Resources Mentioned: https://www.socialmediaexaminer.com/smmworld Social Media Marketing World: Timestamps:00:00 AI's Uneven Skill Gaps05:48 Leveraging AI's Strengths and Limitations07:15 AI: Focus on Core Improvements

Feb 10, 2025 • 5min
How to Assess Your AI Marketing Skills (Take the Quiz!)
Are you a beginner, intermediate, or pro when it comes to AI marketing? In this episode, Dan Sanchez explores the five types of AI marketing and introduces a brand-new quiz to help you assess your skill set. Whether you’re an optimist who believes AI will create more jobs or a pessimist who fears AI will replace them, one thing is clear: mastering AI in marketing is no longer optional. Dan shares his journey of learning AI, the framework he developed to map out AI marketing applications, and why understanding where you stand is crucial for your growth.Resources Mentioned: Take the quiz here: https://danchez.com/quiz 5 Types of AI Marketing Episode: https://danchez.com/5-types-of-ai-marketing-which-are-you-using/Timestamps:00:00 - Where do you stand in AI marketing?02:00 - Why AI marketing skills are crucial for the future04:30 - Dan’s journey in mastering AI 06:45 - The challenge of assessing AI skills08:20 - The five types of AI marketing explained14:10 - How the AI Marketing Skill Scorecard works18:00 - Where marketers fall short in AI adoption20:45 - Take the AI Marketing Quiz now!22:00 - Connect with Dan on LinkedIn

Jan 31, 2025 • 19min
Customize ChatGPTs Instructions & Memory Now to 10x Your Work Later
Most people don’t realize that ChatGPT can be customized in multiple ways to dramatically improve results. In this episode of The AI-Driven Marketer, Dan Sanchez walks through the four levels of personalization for ChatGPT and shares his approach to customizing AI for maximum efficiency. If you’ve ever wrestled with ChatGPT, Gemini, or Claude—going back and forth to get the right response—this episode will show you how to eliminate that friction. Learn how to leverage custom instructions, memory, projects, and custom GPTs to get ChatGPT working smarter for you.🔹 The Four Levels of ChatGPT Personalization: 1️⃣ Base Model – The default AI personality and training. 2️⃣ Account Level – Custom instructions and memory settings. 3️⃣ Project Level – Using projects and custom GPTs for different areas of work. 4️⃣ Prompt Level – Optimizing individual interactions with AI.Dan also shares a game-changing one-prompt hack to improve ChatGPT’s memory and efficiency, along with practical strategies for identifying repetitive tasks and automating them within ChatGPT.Resources & Links: AI Business Society – Social Media Examiner: https://www.socialmediaexaminer.com/aisociety/ Full Tutorial on CustomGPTs: https://danchez.com/advanced-guide-to-building-customgpts-for-chatgpt/ The One-Prompt Hack to 10X ChatGPT Outputs: https://danchez.com/one-prompt-to-10x-your-future-chatgpt-outputs/Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro: How ChatGPT Customization Can 10X Your Results 00:15 - Welcome to The AI-Driven Marketer 00:31 - The Struggle of Wrestling with AI Models 01:14 - Why Personalizing ChatGPT is Critical 02:51 - The Four Levels of ChatGPT Personalization 03:12 - Level 1: Base Model - Understanding Pre-Trained AI Behavior 03:52 - Level 2: Account Level - Custom Instructions & Memory 06:09 - Setting Up Custom Instructions for Better AI Responses 08:24 - Optimizing ChatGPT’s Memory for Personal & Business Use 11:37 - Level 3: Project Level - Using Custom GPTs & Projects 12:32 - Managing Multiple Clients & Workflows with ChatGPT 14:09 - Brand Bots: Creating AI Assistants for Clients & Projects 15:20 - Layered Instructions: Making AI More Context-Aware 16:12 - Level 4: Prompt Level - Fine-Tuning AI Output 16:31 - The One-Prompt Hack for Better ChatGPT Personalization 17:41 - Identifying Repetitive AI Interactions & Automating Them 18:32 - Closing Thoughts & How to Get More from This Series📩 Subscribe to the newsletter at aidrivenmarketer.com🎧 Follow & rate us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube!