

Vigor Life Podcast
Vigor Life Podcast
Luka Hocevar is the owner of the nationally renowned Vigor Ground Fitness and Performance gym in Seattle and founding father of Vigor Move & Live in Slovenia, featured in Men's Health, Stack Magazine, Onnit Magazine, Entrepreneur Magazine, and on CBS.
As a leading fitness and personal development coach this Vigor Life podcast is an extension of what Luka coaches every day and will provide tips, stories, motivation and inspiration to help you forge daily habits for a better body—through fitness, nutrition and mindset—build better relationships, create purpose in your career/business, increase productivity, be happier, and succeed (success comes from succession as in the "next step" - constant growth and expansion in your life).
The Vigor Life podcast will help you piece together the puzzle pieces to your own extraordinary life.
As a leading fitness and personal development coach this Vigor Life podcast is an extension of what Luka coaches every day and will provide tips, stories, motivation and inspiration to help you forge daily habits for a better body—through fitness, nutrition and mindset—build better relationships, create purpose in your career/business, increase productivity, be happier, and succeed (success comes from succession as in the "next step" - constant growth and expansion in your life).
The Vigor Life podcast will help you piece together the puzzle pieces to your own extraordinary life.
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May 4, 2023 • 53min
EP144: Building An Unstoppable Mindset, Bulletproof Confidence and Overcoming Adversity w/ Brian Cain
Brian Cain, MPM is the creator of The Mental Performance Mastery (MPM) Coaching Certification Course and The 30 Days to MPM for Athletes Program, a #1 International Best-Selling Author, Speaker, Coach and Consultant.
Brian is widely regarded as the foremost authority on Mental Performance Mastery. He has worked with Fortune 500 companies, executives and organizations as well as coaches, athletes, and teams at the Olympic level, in the National Football League (NFL), National Basketball Association (NBA) National Hockey League (NHL), Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC), in Professional Golf (PGA, LPGA, Korn Ferry, Symetra) and in Major League Baseball (MLB).
Brian has taught his 10 Pillars of Mental Performance Mastery System on stages all over the world to audiences such as John Paul Mitchell Systems, Whirlpool, Fuddruckers and Burton Snowboards.
His client list includes 4 Major League Baseball Cy-Young Award winners, a Heisman Trophy Winner, 6 UFC World Champion Mixed Martial Artists, World Series and Super Bowl Champions and MVPs, Olympic Medalists, Team USA Baseball, Team USA Bowling and multiple NCAA National Players of The Year, NCAA National Champions and over 1,000 professional sports draft selections.
Brian and I dive into all the aspects of building mental performance, unstoppable confidence, resilience, and mental mastery.
IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:
What led Brian into the world of mental performance coaching when it wasn’t popular at all.
How failure, loss, and adversity led Brian to finding his purpose and being on a mission.
The blueprint for building confidence no matter how many times you’ve failed.
The 3 things that build unstoppable confidence that you can start applying today.
The power of mental performance habits and the steps you can “steal” from Brian’s coaching of the top performers.
The 3-steps Brian’s elite athlete’s take before every performance and how you can apply them to win your day, every day.
Why you need a pre-game and a post-game journal whether you’re an athlete or a business person.
Drills create the skills to build the skillsets, Brian breaks down how to build the 10 mental skills.
Motivation starts after movement begins! Learn the success checklist that builds discipline over motivation.
Discover how to determine just the right amount of mental training so the client thrives and doesn’t get overwhelmed.
The 4-step person development formula that determines how the mental performance will look like.
What’s Brian diving into to improve his mental performance and energy
What’s the wall of mentors and how to build an environment of success every day.
And much, much more….
Shout out to our sponsor Vagaro Pro! It’s the leading booking & management app for any size business whether you are a solopreneur or you own multiple gym locations. They’re also our new partner for the Vigor Life podcast! We can’t wait to bring you more insight & knowledge to help you reach those goals, both physically AND fiscally. So, keep tuning in, and tell a friend, because this year we’re taking it to new levels!
Check out their website vagaro.com/pro to see how your business could benefit too!
LINKS AND RESOURCES:
Brain Cain website https://briancain.com/
Mental Performance Mastery Certification https://briancain.com/certification
Brian Cain Instagram https://www.instagram.com/briancainpeak/
Brian’s Podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mental-performance-daily-with-brian-cain/id1578012159
Book: The Practice Of Groundedness https://a.co/d/fKPa65f
Vigor Life Podcast on iTunes
Vigor Life Podcast on Spotify
Luka Hocevar YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQ29YcBh-g6onRujX3wD_XA?view_as=subscriber

Apr 20, 2023 • 1h 17min
EP143: Staying Strong, Muscular and Athletic For Life, Without Crushing Your Body w/ Dr. Jordan Shallow
Was excited to have Dr. Jordan Shallow on the show a month ahead of hosting him for the Pre-Script Level 1 Certification at Vigor Ground Fitness and Performance and talk about the topic I love; building an athlete for life.
Dr. Jordan Shallow D.C. is a Chiropractor, Strength and Conditioning Coach, Powerlifter and founder of both Pre-Script and RX’D RADIO. Jordan currently works with teams, companies and individuals all over the world, lecturing, coaching and consulting on applied biomechanics, sports performance, and injury risk management.
IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:
Why strength training and athletic training are skills, and you must treat them as such.
The often missed ingredient in getting better at athleticism (at any age) – sensory input, and how to implement it.
When does all the tracking and performance metrics NOT get you the desired outcomes and something you have to pay attention to.
Why Tyson Fury dominates even though he doesn’t look athletic and what that means for you (and having both).
Sensory vs Motor Output and how to dose each of them based on what YOU need to achieve the best results.
Is micro-dosing training the new “secret” and how to use it for yourself.
When you’re younger, THE best thing you can do for your performance is improving STRENGTH.
The reason Saquon Barkley doesn’t need more strength but you do, and the markers that determine what to work on so you can perform better when you play as well as how you look.
What you can learn from high level Crossfit athletes when it comes to program design.
What are the differences between stability and strength, and why single leg is used vs. bilateral and when.
Using single leg exercises as an assessment tool before your training session.
If you can’t do a simple one leg RDL with bodyweight, it may not be the best idea to load a deadlift heavy that day – the insights behind it and how it plays into your programming.
Why wearables can’t help you at the highest level of coaching and what makes you unique at helping clients.
The difference between one spider and another and how it relays to your exercise selection, and why you need to have a depth of understanding exercises at a deeper level.
The truth about tissue tolerance and making sure you have the best foundation to not get injured.
Training clients in a smart way and why we shouldn’t “auto-regulate” and make things easier, here’s what we should do.
Why the light pods for visual training don’t really do much but what does help.
Why you should NOT have contrarian thought but should have original thought.
Shout out to our sponsor Vagaro Pro!
It’s the leading booking & management app for any size business whether you are a solopreneur or you own multiple gym locations.
They’re also our new partner for the Vigor Life podcast!
We can’t wait to bring you more insight & knowledge to help you reach those goals, both physically AND fiscally.
So, keep tuning in, and tell a friend, because this year we’re taking it to new levels!
Check out their website vagaro.com/pro to see how your business could benefit too!
LINKS AND RESOURCES:
Dr. Jordan Shallow Instagram https://www.instagram.com/the_muscle_doc/
Pre-Script Level 1 Certification Seattle https://www.pre-script.com/in-person-l1-seattle
Dr. Jordan Shallow Website https://themuscledoc.com/
RX’D Radio Podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rxd-radio/id1197955534
Vigor Life Podcast (iTunes) h
Vigor Life Podcast on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/0gp1uXtwfRUcBkfS1P1uim?si=kcUu2vhPRwuxdV5kTzQrug
Luka Hocevar YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQ29YcBh-g6onRujX3wD_XA?view_as=subscriber

Apr 6, 2023 • 1h 30min
EP142: The Fit Pro’s Financial Success Blueprint - How To Get, Keep and Grow Your Money
Being born into socialism and having gone through post war hyperinflation, not being taught money and investment lessons until later in life, and learning many lessons the hard way; are some of the big reasons I want to pass on and share insights and experiences that will help fit pro’s build a successful financial career.
The reality is you’re not taught about money management in school, and many times not from your parents, and few Americans read book on money, investing, and money management, and then make decisions without all the insights. I wanted to start sharing some of the lessons I’ve learned from the best, things that I have done successfully, some things I haven’t and I’m just now getting into, all in the hope of getting more fit pro’s to secure their financial future.
IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:
The most misunderstood and most important asset you have.
The powerful lesson I learned from the “Richest Man In Babylon” that set me down the right money path when I started my fitness career
How my teenage years influenced my investment mindset and why I always kept cash in a box. The step-by-step process to get out of debt while also saving money.
The 8th wonder of the world and how to start compounding your money now no matter where you are in your career.
The Rule of 72 and how it can help your financial future or crush it!
Education and experiences over _________.
The Rule of 150 and why I bought an apartment building and commercial property before buying a home.
The investment strategy that will take you 1-hour a month to do and will beat 98% of hedge funds and over 80% of professional All Street Traders.
How this little fee is stealing 28 - 50% of your money over the course of 30 years.
The weird investment principle of the wealthy that you can employ to keep more money over time.
Why you should never listen to your friends when it comes to investing!
401k’s, IRA’s, stocks, bonds, venture capital - which, what, and when?
My simple strategy to make you over $10,000 extra this year as a side hustle that can snowball over the years.
The most powerful investment and money management books.
And much, much more
Shout out to our sponsor Vagaro Pro!
It’s the leading booking & management app for any size business whether you are a solopreneur or you own multiple gym locations.
They’re also our new partner for Vigor Life!
We can’t wait to bring you more insight & knowledge to help you reach those goals, both physically AND fiscally.
So, keep tuning in, and tell a friend, because this year we’re taking it to new levels!
Check out their website vagaro.com/pro to see how your business could benefit too!
LINKS AND RESOURCES:
Book: I Will Teach You To Be Rich (Ramit Sethi) https://a.co/d/7xmOcK6
Book: The Psychology Of Money (Morgan Houseal) https://a.co/d/7uZgL3W
Book: Money Master The Game (Tony Robbins) https://a.co/d/1UCsC2m
Book: The Earning Advantage (Jill Young) https://a.co/d/bAHvA5z
Book: Secrets Of The Millionaire Mind (Harv T. Eker) https://a.co/d/c1UkCmn
Book: Quit Like A Millionaire (Kristy Shen) https://a.co/d/0KSQxDf
Book: The Automatic Millionaire (David Bach) https://a.co/d/9QeGIwk
Book: The Millionaire Next Door (Thomas Stanley) https://a.co/d/73T54Ks
Book: Playing With Fire (Scott Rieckens) https://a.co/d/c3jJFrG
Vigor Life Podcast (iTunes) h
Vigor Life Podcast on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/0gp1uXtwfRUcBkfS1P1uim?si=kcUu2vhPRwuxdV5kTzQrug
Luka Hocevar YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQ29YcBh-g6onRujX3wD_XA?view_as=subscriber

Mar 28, 2023 • 1h 13min
EP141: The Unusual Journey To High Level In Person Coaching and Online Success w/ Adriell Mayes
I’ve been following and communicating with Adriell for a while through social media (also known as “everygotdamndre” on Instagram) as I have loved his approach to training and wanted to connect with him in person. He flew out to Seattle and we got to train, eat, and talk a lot about principles of training, business and life. Adriell has built an incredible online presence, has become very well know for his kettlebell training and online programs, as well as full schedule of one on one personal training clients that he has retained for many years.
On this episode we dive into career success in the training industry, both offline and online, helping clients get results and stay long term, life philosophies, and more.

Mar 16, 2023 • 1h 3min
EP140: How To Build An Extraordinary Body, Business and Life w/ Don Saladino
This past weekend we ran the Becoming A Super Coach event at Vigor Ground Fitness and Performance with my friends Don and Mel Saladino, Kelsey and Dennis Heenan and it we had close to 30 amazing coaches attending and learning as we shared everything we could in a day with our combined experience of close to 55 years in the industry both offline and online. Don is like a brother and I’m glad we were able to speak in person and not on ZOOM as this conversation is so valuable.
Don has coached actors, athletes, & musicians for over 20 years. He opened his first NYC Gym, Drive 495, in 2005. After operating brick & mortar gyms for 15 years, Don expanded to a global online fitness business. He has developed a reputation for training some of the biggest names in Hollywood for the big screen. Ryan Reynolds, Blake Lively, John Krasinski, Emily Blunt, Liev Schreiber, Sebastian Stan, Anne Hathaway, Jake Gyllenhaal, Hugh Jackman, & David Harbour are among his roster of clients.
He has been tapped as a fitness expert in publications such as Muscle & Fitness, Men’s Health, Women’s Health, & Men’s Fitness. He has also been featured in People, US Weekly, Origins, In Touch, Cosmo, & Shape; and has made appearances doing live fitness demos on The Today Show, Page Six TV, People NOW, E News, & WebMD. He sits on the advisory board of Men’s Health Magazine.
In March 2018 & October 2021, it was his great honor to shoot the cover of the iconic Muscle & Fitness Magazine.
Don lives in New York with his wife, Mel, and their two children, Amelia and Donny Jr. - & their pups Rigatoni & Sambuca.
LINKS AND RESOURCES:
Don Saladino https://donsaladino.com/
Don Saladino Instagram https://www.instagram.com/donsaladino/
5 Steps To Monetize Your Online Business Course https://donsaladino.samcart.com/products/business-course/
Vigor Life Podcast (iTunes) h
Vigor Life Podcast on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/0gp1uXtwfRUcBkfS1P1uim?si=kcUu2vhPRwuxdV5kTzQrug
Luka Hocevar YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQ29YcBh-g6onRujX3wD_XA?view_as=subscriber
Athlete For Life Program Design Workshop https://lukahocevar.com/product/athlete-for-life/

Feb 28, 2023 • 1h 6min
EP139: Principles, Strategies and Tools To Be A Better In-Person Coach w/ Mike Robertson
I always love having my friend Mike Robertson on the show as he’s not only a great coach, a gym owner, but he’s been doing it for decades and is always learning, doing and sharing his knowledge at the highest level. Mike and I go back 15 years and have been there, done that, and still doing it. In this episode we dive into the biggest “musts” when it comes to coaching in person. Our frame was that these are the principles the “young Jedi’s” of the industry must follow.
Mike Robertson is the President of Robertson Training Systems and the co-owner of Indianapolis Fitness and Sports Training (I-FAST) in Indianapolis, Indiana which has been named top 20 gyms in America by Men’s Health a number of times. Mike has made a name for himself as one of the premier performance coaches in the world, helping clients and athletes from all walks of life achieve their physique and sports performance goals.
IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:
What’s the absolutely most important principal when it comes to being a successful coach.
What’s Luka’s #1 “no, no” when it comes to coaching clients and
Soft skills or X’s and O’s? Which one wins out and how much time should you dedicate to each.
Actionable step you can take today to discover what the best coaches do, this is a cheat code.
What does it mean to take the “Megatron” approach to learning and applying within your sessions.
How to distill what works by using it in “the fire” and the step-by-step process of doing that.
What Mike is currently working on to improve assessments at IFAST and take their athletes to the next level.
Why plateaus in learning and development are good and the catalyst for growing.
What do you do when you see a lot of things “wrong” with someones form, how do you approach it coaching wise.
The reason average doesn’t exist and why you can’t coach to average.
How to be a complete coach and create a successful career in the industry.
LINKS AND RESOURCES:
Complete Coach Certification Seattle https://completecoachcertification.com/seminar/
Mike Robertson https://robertsontrainingsystems.com/
Physical Preparation Podcast h
IFAST Gym https://indianapolisfitnessandsportstraining.com/
Vigor Life Podcast (iTunes) h
Vigor Life Podcast on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/0gp1uXtwfRUcBkfS1P1uim?si=kcUu2vhPRwuxdV5kTzQrug
Luka Hocevar YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQ29YcBh-g6onRujX3wD_XA?view_as=subscriber

Feb 14, 2023 • 51min
EP138: 6 Principles For Lifelong Excellence Without Anxiety and Burnout w/ Brad Stulberg
Brad Stulberg’s book Peak Performance has always been on my top list of recommendations for entrepreneurs. I just found out he had written a new book just as I was scheduling an episode with him. I read it within days and was glad I did, because The Practice of Groundedness gave me a deep poke on things I needed to continue to work on.
Brad researches, writes, and coaches on the characteristics that underlie sustainable excellence. No gimmicks or “hacks.” Just what works.
Brad’s books are The Practice of Groundedness and Peak Performance. They have sold more than 350,000 copies and have been translated into more than 20 languages. His writing has appeared in The New York Times, where I am a regular contributor to the opinion section, as well many other publications including The Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, Los Angeles Times, Wired, The New Yorker, Forbes, GQ, Outside Magazine, TIME, and more.
In his coaching practice I work with executives, entrepreneurs, physicians, and athletes on their performance and overall well-being.
He’s the co-creator of The Growth Equation an online platform dedicated to defining and realizing a more fulfilling, genuine kind of excellence and sustainable success.
Brad is also a fellow at the University of Michigan’s graduate school of public health, where he advises and lectures on health, human potential, and excellence.
IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:
Even though Brad was successful in his field and had it all together on the outside, inside he had an anxiety and frenetic energy that always made him feel he was on shaky ground, this led to finding out why and writing this book
The reason many high achievers and successful people feel are always striving and not feeling at peace with where they are.
Why do entrepreneurs want to “turn it off” and have some peace but when they do they feel like they should be working.
How to find the balance between striving to be excellent in your craft and career, and not losing yourself and having peace.
What is “Summit Fever” and how it may lead to a huge downfall after a success.
How to be grounded in the process of striving where you spend 99.9% of the time.
Is awareness the most important principle to become grounded and something that is critical to becoming aware.
Breaking down the 6 principles of groundedness and how to practice them in a skill based way.
Why “good enough” consistently can make you the best in the world.
A practice and strategy to be able to take your own advice; true wisdom.
What is performative vulnerability vs. true vulnerability, and the power of this principle on your life and business.
What is deep community and why it may be the most important one to build roundedness.
Why Brad and I agree that its better to have one gym that makes a deeper impact than a chain of national gyms (and our reasoning behind it).
How being the most know and being excellent at your craft are two very different things.
The power of movement and exercise and how it affects mindset, psychology, health, and is a catalyst to improve every factor of your life.
The formula for discovering the right movement approach for you to have lifelong success and health.

Jan 30, 2023 • 1h 42min
EP137: The 3 Keys To Client Results and Retention, & How To Have Real World Success As A Trainer w/ Ben Bruno
It was about time I had my friend Ben Bruno on the Vigor Life Podcast. Ben went from starting of in the industry working for Michael Boyle and putting in the work day in and ay out, eventually moving to LA, and with time becoming one of the most well known celebrity and elite athlete trainers in the country. Throughout all this time he has remained humble, a great voice in the industry, both for how to get results, treat clients, conduct yourself with integrity, and also how to succeed as a trainer.
We dive-in and talk about many topics, ranging from his beginnings in the industry, what it takes to stand out, how to get results and retain clients for over a decade, and how to have success on social media while staying yourself. This is truly a MUST listen to episode if you’re a coach (or anyone for that matter!).

Jan 17, 2023 • 1h 28min
EP136: The Athlete For Life Program Design Structure & Insights
A lot of the programming that I do these days falls into this category, and it’s essentially what I program for myself and many non-pro athletes I coach (even though the way I coach my pro athletes has so many overlaps, just some minor tweaks) who want to have “the show and the go.” They want to look, feel, perform like an athlete, while not being beat up, getting rid of nagging pains and joint issues, and have the energy and cardio to do everything they want in life.
I’ve come to this way of programming through 30 years of training myself, doing that from high school to the pro’s in basketball, and then later working to be the fittest possible and constantly striving for top performance. It’s also from having a 17-year career in coaching, training thousands of clients from every walk of life, elite athletes to everyday people wanting to improve their life through fitness. I’ll be doing more episodes like this on training, coaching and program design, to help you get the most out of your training and coaching clients.

Jan 3, 2023 • 1h 31min
EP 135: From Addict To Serial Entrepreneur, Chef & Fitness Fanatic One Habit At A Time w/ Michael Chernow
Michael is a restaurateur and chef, entrepreneur, TV host, wellness leader and founder of Kreatures of Habit, an in-your-face lifestyle and wellness brand reimagining how you establish healthy habits in your life. Honoring his 17 years of sobriety by launching his newest venture on August 17th, Michael’s goal with Kreatures of Habit was to create easily accessible nutritional products that are rooted in adopting the positive habits that transformed his life and allowed him to replace alcohol with the nutrition and fitness he needed.
Michael channeled his fire for culinary and community by curating and building some of New York City’s beloved restaurants including The Meatball Shop in 2009 with childhood friend Daniel Holzman, which has now grown to five locations across New York City and resulted in the release of The Meatball Shop Cookbook in 2011, co-authored by Michael and released by Ballantine Books. In 2015, he founded SEAMORE’s, a Manhattan restaurant that combines Michael’s love of fishing and culinary expertise, expanding to five locations peppered across New York City.
Michael Chernow, who has founded hospitality ventures The Meatball Shop and Seamore’s, appeared on Food Network’s Beat Bobby Flay, Kitchen Casino, and Chopped, co-authored cookbooks and landed magazine spreads for his Olympian-like physique, possesses a resume with marathon-like momentum. A poster child for how to live a life well-lived and reach business mogul status, Chernow adopted positive habits that allowed him to replace alcohol with nutrition and fitness and propel his ascent in the New York restaurant scene.


