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Jan 8, 2024 • 17min
1783 – Scale Your Business 10X with Clare Price of Octain
In this episode of the Thoughtful Entrepreneur, your host Josh Elledge speaks to the President & CEO of Octain, Clare Price.
Claire Price brought her extensive background as an analyst and research director for Gartner, greatly influencing her marketing approach. She passionately spoke about the necessity of a systematic approach to marketing, especially for small business owners who often face significant challenges in this area.
One of Claire's most impactful points was about the value of building long-term relationships. She explained how these relationships could significantly impact business success, emphasizing that marketing is not just about transactions but about creating lasting connections with customers.
Claire introduced listeners to Octain, which she described as the first true marketing operating system designed specifically for small businesses. Octane aims to replace inefficient trial-and error-marketing with a sustainable, systematic approach.
Claire outlined how Octane provides a turnkey system encompassing strategy, smart execution, and automation, all crucial for supporting small businesses in their marketing endeavors.
She also shed light on the role of growth architects, who are instrumental in implementing the Octane system. These architects work closely with businesses to ensure the marketing operating system is tailored to their needs and goals.
Key Points from the Episode:
Importance of systematic approach to marketing for small and medium-sized businesses
Challenges faced by small business owners in marketing
Value of building long-term relationships for business success
Introduction of Octain as a marketing operating system for small businesses
Turnkey system of sustainable marketing operations provided by Octane
Role of growth architects in implementing the Octain system
The target audience for leveraging the Octain operating system
Overview of the book "Smart Marketing Execution" and its resources for small business owners
Emphasis on effective execution and integrating automation systems in marketing
About Clare Price:
Clare Price, CEO of Octain Growth Systems in Raleigh, NC, specializes in scalable growth and is a luminary in B2B marketing strategies. Her expertise is distilled in her book, "Smart Marketing Execution," guiding businesses from haphazard marketing to sustainable, profit-boosting operations.
Previously, Clare honed her skills as a Research Director at Gartner's Internet Strategies Service and Vice President of Research at Demand Metric. A prolific writer, she's authored five marketing playbooks, a remote work guide, and the cyberthriller "Web of Betrayal."
Clare is a sought-after speaker, engaging with organizations like the American Marketing Association and Women in Technology International. Beyond her professional endeavors, Clare is an amateur ornithologist and adores her Shetland sheepdogs, Toby and Ashton.
About Octain:
Octain Growth System revolutionizes business growth through its integrated marketing operating system, combining strategy, smart execution, and automation. It starts by crafting strategic blueprints in six key areas: brand positioning, customer acquisition, message clarity, market expansion, sales enablement, and product innovation.
Using a proprietary decision framework, Octain develops a roadmap for smart execution, aligning actions with goals. The final step involves automating marketing and sales activities, ensuring sustainable boosts in performance and productivity.
The outcome is a transformative shift from erratic, inefficient marketing to a sustainable, operationally efficient approach, leading to significant business growth.
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Links Mentioned in this Episode:
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https://octaingrowth.com/
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https://www.linkedin.com/company/octain/
Check out Clare Price on LinkedIn at
https://www.linkedin.com/in/clareprice/
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Jan 7, 2024 • 19min
1782 – Expanding your IT team with Tatiana Melnichuk of LUCKY HUNTER
In this episode of the Thoughtful Entrepreneur, your host Josh Elledge speaks with the Executive Coach & Speaker of Lucky Hunter, Tatiana Melnichuk.
Lucky Hunter has carved out a niche in the global market as an international recruitment agency with a laser focus on IT staffing. With over six years of experience and main offices in London and Dubai, they've established themselves as a key player in connecting top IT talent with companies worldwide.
Tatiana Melnichuk, the driving force behind Lucky Hunter, shared that their approach is client-centric, tailoring their services to meet the unique needs of companies rather than individual candidates.
One of the core principles that Tatiana emphasized was the importance of understanding clients' specific requirements. In the ever-evolving IT landscape, flexibility is paramount. Lucky Hunter prides itself on adapting its recruitment process to align with the dynamic demands of the industry, ensuring that the right talent is matched with the right opportunity.
Tatiana noted the ongoing tug-of-war between candidates' desire for flexibility and companies' need for collaboration. She predicts that a hybrid work model may emerge as the solution, balancing the benefits of remote work with the collaborative spirit of traditional office settings.
Delving deeper into the recruitment process, Tatiana underscored the necessity of effective communication and partnership with clients. It's a balancing act where understanding the aspirations of candidates and companies' vision is crucial for successful placements.
Key Points from the Episode:
Overview of Lucky Hunter, an international recruitment agency specializing in IT staffing
Challenges in the recruitment industry
Demand for IT staffing and the growth of the market
Working with clients and understanding their specific requirements
Impact of remote work on staffing and the potential for a hybrid model
Geographical reach of Lucky Hunter's clients and their global market presence
Insights into the recruitment process and the importance of effective communication
Diverse client base, with a significant portion based in the US
Commitment to delivering high-quality service and building strong relationships with clients
About Tatiana Melnichuk:
Tatiana Melnichuk is a highly skilled IT recruitment specialist, boasting over a decade of rich experience in the field. Her journey is marked by significant collaborations with international startups and esteemed IT companies, highlighting her expertise in navigating the dynamic landscape of tech talent acquisition.
Her entrepreneurial spirit led her to establish Lucky Hunter in 2017, where she excels as the CEO. Before founding her company, Melnichuk honed her skills as an HR Business Partner, contributing to the growth of startups in the UK, Denmark, and the USA. Her role involved strategic HR management, aligning talent acquisition with business goals, a skill she undoubtedly carried into her current venture.
At Lucky Hunter, Melnichuk has created a notable presence, gaining global recognition. Her leadership and deep understanding of the tech recruitment world continue to drive the company's success, making it a go-to partner for companies seeking the best IT talent. Melnichuk's journey is a testament to her dedication and prowess in the IT recruitment sector.
About Lucky Hunter:
Lucky Hunter is a distinguished international IT recruitment agency, known for its extensive 13-year experience in global recruiting. Specializing in building successful IT teams, the agency has significantly impacted companies worldwide.
The team at Lucky Hunter is not just about filling positions; they prioritize selective recruitment. They invest time to deeply understand their clients' specific needs and goals. This meticulous approach ensures that only the most relevant candidates are presented, leading to a remarkably low replacement rate and reinforcing their reputation for excellence in the industry.
Speed and efficiency are hallmarks of Lucky Hunter's service. Remarkably, they can present the first candidates to clients within four workdays. Additionally, they offer a unique safety net: free candidate replacements if they leave before the end of their probationary period. Startups find Lucky Hunter particularly appealing due to attractive discounts tailored for them.
With offices in key locations like Dubai, London, Yerevan, and Astana, Lucky Hunter is well-positioned to cater to IT staffing needs globally. They bridge language barriers and geographical boundaries, ensuring the perfect IT professional match for any team. Their innovative use of a neuroscientific approach further enhances their ability to identify the ideal specialist for each organization.
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Links Mentioned in this Episode:
Want to learn more? Check out Lucky Hunter website at
https://luckyhunter.co.uk/
Check out Lucky Hunter on LinkedIn at
https://www.linkedin.com/company/lucky-hunter/
Check out Tatiana Melnichuk on LinkedIn at
https://www.linkedin.com/in/coachdangordon/
Check out Tatiana Melnichuk on Instagram at
https://www.instagram.com/tani_mel/
Check out Tatiana Melnichuk on Facebook at
https://www.facebook.com/tanya.melnichuk.7/
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Jan 6, 2024 • 21min
1781 – How to Double Your Leads in 90 Days with Mark Osborne
In this episode of the Thoughtful Entrepreneur, your host Josh Elledge speaks with the Author and Marketing Technology Trailblazer of Modern Revenue Strategies, Mark Osborne.
Mark Osborne is a seasoned expert who has worked with CEOs, founders, and sales leaders in early-stage B2B firms. His focus is on helping these companies build systems for generating revenue.
This includes attracting the right prospects, accelerating deals through the sales pipeline, and activating existing clients for renewals, upsells, referrals, and testimonials.
One of the key points Mark emphasized during our conversation was the importance of understanding the ideal customer and their buying journey.
Mark believes many companies must take the time to truly understand their customers and context, leading to ineffective marketing strategies and wasted ad spending.
Mark suggests a differentiated positioning strategy is crucial for creating awareness and generating demand at the top of the funnel. He advises relying on advertising or content with a clear differentiation from competitors.
Mark's approach to working with clients starts with a diagnostic to identify strengths and weaknesses in their revenue systems. He can create a 90-day plan to accelerate growth by diagnosing the areas of opportunity.
Mark highlighted that his clients often experience a doubling of leads within the first 90 days and offer a 10x ROI guarantee within six months.
Mark emphasized the need to focus on the ideal customer profile and craft messaging that resonates with them rather than trying to be a perfect fit for everyone.
By attracting the right prospects, businesses can move faster through the sales pipeline and achieve more renewals, upsells, and referrals, ultimately dominating the marketplace.
Key Points from the Episode:
Importance of understanding the ideal customer and their buying journey
Creating a differentiated positioning strategy
Challenges of lead generation
Need for a holistic view of the customer journey
The changing landscape of B2B marketing accelerated by the pandemic
Importance of patience and empathy in understanding the customer's experience
The trend of buyers wanting to distance themselves from vendors
The importance of focusing on the ideal customer profile and crafting resonating messaging
Mark's approach to working with clients, including a diagnostic and 90-day plan
About Mark Osborne:
Mark Osborne, recognized as a "Marketing Technology Trailblazer" by AdAge Magazine in 2017, boasts extensive experience crafting Revenue Systems for SaaS, Technology, and B2B Services firms.
Mark's expertise lies in integrating Sales, Marketing, and Customer Success strategies, particularly for organizations navigating complex sales cycles and intricate buying committees to secure substantial contracts.
A seasoned communicator and team leader, Mark excels in researching markets, competitive positioning, and executing creative Go-To-Market strategies. His proficiency extends to Demand Generation, Lead Generation, and Revenue Growth through Account-Based Marketing, Sales, and Customer Advocacy programs.
Mark's accessible insights cater to C-Suite, Marketing, and Sales Leaders adapting to the evolving B2B landscape. Beyond his professional pursuits, he enjoys sport fishing, indulging in Tiki drinks, and catching the latest movies with his wife.
About Modern Revenue Strategies:
Modern Revenue Strategies offers CEOs and Sales Leaders of early-stage SaaS, Tech, and B2B Services firms a sanity-saving approach to business growth. Unlike traditional tactics and fleeting growth hacks, the focus is on proven marketing strategy, delivering predictable growth and often doubling revenue and pipeline within three months.
The system emphasizes scalable processes over ad spending and growth-chasing, with many clients experiencing a remarkable 10X Return on Investment.
The B2B Growth Systems provided by Modern Revenue Strategies liberate businesses from financial uncertainties and campaign prioritization struggles, allowing leaders to concentrate on customer service and product development.
Their #1 Best Selling B2B Marketing Book on Amazon unveils a Proven 5-step Growth Framework, addressing key aspects like attracting the right prospects, accelerating deal pipelines, and activating renewals, upsells, and referrals.
Offering a cost-effective alternative to hiring a full-time marketing executive, Modern Revenue Strategies is designed to guide companies through the $1M to $20M ARR growth phase, delivering top-notch solutions for marketing leadership and propelling them to the next stage of success.
Tweetable Moments:
12:40 - “ What happens is when you don't have systems in place to attract the right prospects and then work them through the process, you wind up with sort of the leftovers in the marketplace.”
14:20 - “The default of the lazy marketer or the lazy PR person is just spray and pray.”
16:26 - “You're better than your competitors yet just talk about why your way is the right way to solve it, and move them through that stage of the informational journey.”
Links Mentioned in this Episode:
Want to learn more? Check out Modern Revenue Strategies website at
https://modernrevenuestrategies.com/
Check out Modern Revenue Strategies on LinkedIn at
https://www.linkedin.com/company/modern-revenue-strategies
Check out Modern Revenue Strategies on Facebook at
https://www.facebook.com/ModernRevenueStrategies
Check out Mark Osborne on LinkedIn at
https://www.linkedin.com/in/remarkablemark/
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Jan 5, 2024 • 21min
1780 – Authentic Sales with Coach Dan Gordon
In this episode of the Thoughtful Entrepreneur, your host Josh Elledge speaks to the Executive Coach & Speaker, Dan Gordon.
A fascinating concept that Coach Dan introduced was the idea of a "qualified no." This is when a prospect declines your offer with a valid reason that keeps the door open for future engagement. It's not the end of the conversation; it's an invitation to stay connected and revisit the opportunity when the time is right.
The importance of maintaining a connection with prospects, even after a "no," cannot be overstated. Coach Dan advised that we should always leave the lines of communication open. This means following up, providing additional value, and showing that you're still interested in their success, regardless of whether they've made a purchase.
One of the critical takeaways Coach Dan shared is the importance of empathy in sales. He stressed that to connect with our prospects truly, we must first understand their fears and hesitations. It's not just about pushing a product or service; it's about listening to their concerns and addressing them head-on.
Coach Dan also highlighted the significance of relentless service. In a world where everyone is selling something, the differentiator is often how much you're willing to go above and beyond for your clients. This means not only meeting their expectations but exceeding them whenever possible.
Key Points from the Episode:
Authentic selling and building connections with potential clients
Understanding and addressing the fears and hesitations of prospects
The value of relentless service and asking
The concept of a "qualified no"
The importance of staying connected with prospects
About Dan Gordon:
Dan Gordon, an executive coach and speaker, has carved a niche in empowering entrepreneurs to harness their inherent 'superpowers.' He believes everyone has unique abilities, often unrecognized, that can drive remarkable success.
His approach revolves around the concept that entrepreneurs naturally confront challenges and fears others shy away from, demonstrating a rare courage and resilience.
Gordon has dedicated himself to guiding thousands of entrepreneurs for over twenty years. His coaching focuses on amplifying these inherent strengths, enabling individuals to realize and utilize their full potential. His methods are tailored to help entrepreneurs achieve success more rapidly and effectively than they might.
Gordon's philosophy centers on the idea that entrepreneurial courage and the willingness to face potential failure are skills and unique qualities that set individuals apart.
By fostering these traits, he aids his clients in recognizing their unique abilities and leveraging them for more significant personal and professional achievements.
Tweetable Moments:
04:20 - "Nobody wants to buy a fire extinguisher when everything's fine. You always want the thing when you need it the least."
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Links Mentioned in this Episode:
Want to learn more? Check out Dan Gordon Enterprise, LLC website at
https://dangordonenterprise.com/coaching/
Check out Dan Gordon Enterprise, LLC on LinkedIn at
https://www.linkedin.com/company/dangordonenterprise/
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www.twitter.com/DG_Enterprise
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Check out Dan Gordon on LinkedIn at
https://www.linkedin.com/in/coachdangordon/
Check out Dan Gordon on Twitter at
http://twitter.com/ElderLawGeorgia
Check out Dan Gordon on Facebook at
www.facebook.com/dangordon99
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Jan 4, 2024 • 15min
1779 – The Art of Buying and Selling Law Firms with Victoria Collier of Quid Pro Quo
In this episode of the Thoughtful Entrepreneur, your host Josh Elledge speaks with the CEO & Owner of Quid Pro Quo, Victoria Collier.
Victoria Collier brings a wealth of knowledge to the table with her expertise in guiding lawyers through the sale of their practices. Her approach is about finding a buyer and ensuring that law firm owners can find their life after the law. This involves a comprehensive strategy that includes positioning the firm for sale and acting as a broker to connect with the right buyer.
One of the key topics we discussed was how small law firm owners could prepare their firms to be attractive acquisition targets. Victoria stressed the importance of shifting one's mindset from being a practitioner to embracing the role of a business owner. This shift is crucial in building assets within the firm that go beyond revenue generation.
A predictable income and robust production systems are vital in demonstrating the firm's stability and potential for growth. Operational procedures and transparent workflows add to the firm's value, showcasing a well-organized and efficient practice that a buyer could easily integrate into their existing operations.
Victoria talked through the engagement process with Quid Pro Quo Law, which begins with assessing the emotional readiness of the seller and obtaining a valuation of the business. The acquisition process involves due diligence and navigating the emotional challenges sellers may face during the transition.
Key Points from the Episode:
Reasons for acquiring existing law firms
Steps for making law firms attractive for acquisition
Sales process for law firms
Post-sale transition period for sellers
Benefits for buyers in acquiring existing law firms
Growth through acquisition strategy for larger law firms
Criteria for potential acquisitions
Shift in mindset for small law firm owners
Importance of building assets within the firm
Post-sale period and personalized roles for sellers
About Victoria Collier:
Victoria Collier is a multifaceted legal and business professional who transitioned seamlessly from her Air Force paralegal role to founding her own law firm. With her unique background, she specialized in Elder Law Estate Planning, distinguishing herself as a pioneer in educating elder law attorneys nationwide about Veterans Benefits for Seniors.
Her expertise extended beyond legal practice to business coaching, where she co-owned a successful company, guiding other attorneys in growing their practices
Under her leadership for 18 years, her law firm consistently generated impressive revenues, reaching $1-1.5 million annually over five consecutive years. In 2020, she made the strategic move to sell her firm.
Beyond law, Victoria's entrepreneurial spirit has led her to co-own another high-performing business focused on assisting Veterans. She also runs a consulting firm and has previously ventured into insurance, publishing, and real estate. Victoria Collier's career reflects a blend of legal acumen, business savvy, and a dedicated commitment to supporting veterans and the elderly.
About Quid Pro Quo:
Quid pro quo, a Latin term meaning "something for something," refers to a mutual exchange where one thing is given or done in return for another. In legal and business contexts, it often implies an exchange of goods, services, or favors, where each party expects to give and receive something of value. This concept is crucial in contract law, where agreements are based on the understanding that each party will fulfill their part of the deal.
However, quid pro quo can also have negative connotations, especially when the exchange is unethical or illegal. For instance, in the workplace, it might refer to situations where job benefits (like promotions or raises) are contingent upon employees providing personal favors, which can lead to accusations of harassment or corruption.
Quid pro quo can describe negotiations where support or concessions are exchanged for specific actions or policies in political and diplomatic arenas. It's a fundamental principle in international relations, where countries often engage in reciprocal dealings to advance their interests.
Tweetable Moments:
05:29 - "What buyers want to buy is predictability. So, whatever systems you can have to make sure that there's predictability in income, that would be number one."
07:59 - "The due diligence process can be the hardest emotional part through the entire journey. It can be stressful, and that's why having an advisor to go through that can be helpful."
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Links Mentioned in this Episode:
Want to learn more? Check out Quid Pro Quo website at
https://quidproquolaw.com/
Check out Quid Pro Quo on LinkedIn at
https://www.linkedin.com/company/victoria-collier-coaching/
Check out Quid Pro Quo on Instagram at
https://instagram.com/victorywalkcoaching?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Check out Quid Pro Quo on Facebook at
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1284225722042602/%20
Check out Victoria Collier on LinkedIn at
https://www.linkedin.com/in/victoria-collier-b10b992/
Check out Victoria Collier on Twitter at
http://twitter.com/ElderLawGeorgia
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Jan 3, 2024 • 19min
1778 – Boosting Business Value in M&A with Christine McDanell
In this episode of the Thoughtful Entrepreneur, your host Josh Elledge speaks with the Principal, Business Intermediary & Broker of The Magnolia Firm, Christine McDanell.
Christine McDanell is not just an expert in her field; she's a guiding light for those navigating the often turbulent waters of M&A. As the principal and founder of The Magnolia Firm, she brings a unique perspective, one that's been honed by years of hands-on experience and a deep understanding of market trends.
One of the critical insights Christine shared was her take on the current market trends within the tech industry. The landscape constantly evolves, and staying abreast of these changes is crucial for anyone looking to maximize their business's value. Christine's expertise allows her to forecast these trends and advise her clients accordingly, ensuring they're always a step ahead.
Financing plays a pivotal role in the M&A process, and Christine shed light on the various lending options available to businesses. She emphasized the importance of understanding these options to secure the best possible outcome in a transaction. Moreover, Christine provided strategies for maximizing business valuation, a critical aspect for any seller aiming to get the most out of their exit.
The role of a broker cannot be overstated in the world of M&A. Christine discussed how a broker can facilitate the process, acting as a mediator between buyers and sellers. She highlighted the benefits of having a broker on your side, from their ability to negotiate better terms to their expertise in closing deals efficiently.
Christine also mentioned her upcoming book, "Get Acquired," which is an essential read for anyone considering selling their business. The book aims to provide practical guidance, demystifying the process and offering actionable steps to prepare for a successful sale.
Key Points from the Episode:
Introduction of Christine McDanell , M&A consultant and founder of The Magnolia Firm
Expertise in mergers and acquisitions, particularly in the tech industry
Insights into current market trends and lending options
Strategies for maximizing business valuation
Role of a broker in the M&A process
Tips for sellers and buyers in navigating the transaction
Mention of upcoming book "Get Acquired" for practical guidance on selling a business
About Christine McDanell:
Christine McDanell is the enterprising Founder & Principal Business Intermediary of The Magnolia Firm, a brokerage specializing in M&A for digital businesses. With a knack for orchestrating seamless exits, her firm ensures entrepreneurs don't compromise their values while achieving their desired outcomes. TMF boasts a 100% success rate in exits, often securing deals at or above the asking price.
Christine's entrepreneurial journey is marked by her success in founding, growing, acquiring, and selling over 20 businesses across diverse sectors like cleaning, wellness, beauty, technology, exotic cars, and real estate. This vast experience led her to discover a formula for perfect business sales, which she now imparts to others.
Her career highlights include creating 200+ jobs since 2003, and a memorable breakfast with Richard Branson in 2017, recognizing her contributions to the Virgin Unite Foundation. She's earned accolades such as the SBA Business Person of the Year (2009) and a spot in Entrepreneur Magazine's 100 Most Brilliant Companies for Cleanology (2010).
Away from work, Christine enjoys live music festivals, spontaneous global travels, attending Burning Man, and captaining boats in San Diego Bay.
About The Magnolia Firm:
The Magnolia Firm (TMF) stands out in the M&A brokerage landscape, focusing on transactions for small and medium-sized digital businesses (SMBs). What sets TMF apart is their commitment to exceeding expectations in both experience and results. They aim for a win-win scenario, ensuring that all parties in a transaction are more than satisfied.
TMF's unique edge lies in its team composition. Unlike typical brokers, TMF's intermediaries are seasoned entrepreneurs. This entrepreneurial background is crucial.
It means they have firsthand experience in owning and running businesses, giving them an unparalleled understanding of their clients' perspectives and needs. This experience allows them to deeply empathize with business owners, aligning closely with their interests and expectations.
By leveraging their personal business experiences, TMF intermediaries can navigate the complexities of digital SMB transactions more effectively, ensuring a more tailored and satisfying experience for all involved. This approach has helped TMF carve out a distinct niche in the competitive world of M&A brokerage.
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Links Mentioned in this Episode:
Want to learn more? Check out The Magnolia Firm website at
https://www.vanderbloemen.com/
Check out The Magnolia Firm on LinkedIn at
https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-magnolia-firm/
Check out The Magnolia Firm on Instagram at
https://instagram.com/themagnoliafirm
Check out The Magnolia Firm on Facebook at
https://www.facebook.com/themagnoliafirmco
Check out Christine McDanell on LinkedIn at
https://www.linkedin.com/in/christinemcdannell/
Check out Christine McDanell on Twitter at
https://twitter.com/SS_Christine
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Jan 2, 2024 • 17min
1777 – How to Separate the Best from the Rest with William Vanderbloemen
In this episode of the Thoughtful Entrepreneur, your host Josh Elledge speaks to the CEO & Founder of Vanderbloemen Search Group, William Vanderbloemen.
William's journey is a testament to the power of diverse experiences. His transition from being a pastor to working for a Fortune 200 company equipped him with a unique perspective that ultimately led to the creation of his search firm. Vanderbloemen Search Group is a beacon for churches, nonprofits, schools, and values-based businesses in their quest to find exceptional talent.
William's firm is built on the premise that the best candidates reveal themselves within the first five minutes of an interaction, a principle guiding his approach to identifying standout individuals.
William shed light on the 12 data-driven habits that are the cornerstone of his book. These habits are not just theoretical concepts; they are actionable practices backed by data and proven to elevate individuals above the rest. These habits' simplicity yet the profound impact can transform how leaders operate, and businesses succeed.
William underscored the significance of responding quickly in today's fast-paced world. He shared compelling examples and statistics illustrating how a prompt and intentional reply can forge stronger relationships and set you apart in a saturated market. While simple to adopt, this habit can be a game-changer for anyone looking to make a mark.
William generously invited leaders and professionals to take advantage of the over 4000 free resources on the Vanderbloemen website. These resources are designed to assist with team building, leadership development, and the nuances of running a values-based business. For those in leadership roles seeking the best team talent, William's invitation is a call to action to elevate their hiring process.
Key Points from the Episode:
William Vanderbloemen's career and establishment of Vanderbloemen Search Group
Inspiration behind the book "Be the Unicorn: 12 Data-Driven Habits that Separate the Best from the Rest"
Quick identification of standout individuals in initial meetings.
Responsiveness as a key to relationship-building and market differentiation.
Application of these habits in leadership and customer service roles.
William's website provides 4000+ free resources on team and leadership development.
About William Vanderbloemen:
William Vanderbloemen is a notable figure in executive search and team consulting. He founded Vanderbloemen Search Group 15 years ago, a firm specializing in identifying top talent for various teams, managing succession plans, and offering consultation on team-related matters. This year marks a significant milestone for the firm, completing their 3,000th executive search.
Before establishing his company, Vanderbloemen gained valuable insights into executive search methodologies under the guidance of a mentor with over 25 years of experience in high-level executive search. This mentorship exposed him to the best corporate practices and strategies, particularly those utilized by the globally recognized firm Russell Reynolds.
Additionally, Vanderbloemen has a background in religious leadership. He previously served as a Senior Pastor at one of the largest Presbyterian Churches in the USA, adding a unique dimension to his professional profile. This combination of religious leadership and expertise in executive search and team management makes William Vanderbloemen a distinguished professional.
About Vanderbloemen Search Group:
Vanderbloemen Search Group is a distinctive organization serving various values-based entities, including Churches, Schools, Nonprofits, Family Offices, and Businesses aligned with specific values. They specialize in various services such as hiring, compensation analysis, succession planning, and enhancing organisational diversity.
Founded on the principle that their mission is driven by the missions of the organizations they serve, Vanderbloemen began as a concept at the founder's dining room table. It has since evolved into a robust company with a team of 40 people. This growth reflects their commitment to providing tailored people solutions to teams with a greater purpose.
Operating on a global scale, Vanderbloemen Search Group prides itself on aligning its services with the specific needs of its clients. This approach ensures that the solutions they offer are effective and resonate deeply with the core values and objectives of the organizations they assist. Their focus on mission-driven solutions has established Vanderbloemen as a key player in supporting organizations with a higher purpose.
Tweetable Moments:
02:56 - "Churches move so slowly, and I thought, well, this is kind of silly. I wonder if we could build something like what the business world has for churches to find their pastor."
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Jan 1, 2024 • 18min
1776 – The Power of Personal Accountability with Jason Pearl
In this episode of the Thoughtful Entrepreneur, your host Josh Elledge speaks to the President of Nacre Consulting, Jason Pearl.
The name "Nacre Consulting" is derived from the organic compound that forms a pearl, a fitting metaphor for the transformative work Jason and his team do with businesses. Nacre Consulting is dedicated to helping small and medium-sized businesses scale faster through comprehensive sales, marketing, and leadership programs.
Jason's journey in business and leadership is inspiring. Having been a sales leader for most of his life, he understands the importance of aligning one's leadership style with the desired results. He advocates for a leadership approach that fosters respect, supports team success, and takes decisive action to achieve results.
When it comes to leadership trends, Jason identifies the avoidance of healthy conflict as a significant issue. He encourages leaders to address issues early on to prevent them from escalating. In an era dominated by social media, Jason advises leaders to drown out the noise and focus on what they can control.
Jason emphasizes the importance of personal accountability and being a leader's best version of oneself. His faith and values inform his approach to business and leadership. He firmly believes that success is a personal choice that individuals make every day, and that everyone has the potential to win.
Nacre Consulting started as a solopreneur venture but has since grown into a small team of highly educated consultants with experience in the private sector. They aim to provide accessible options for businesses to work with them, starting with smaller projects and gradually expanding the partnership.
Their goal is to change the business landscape for growth and offer services such as growth assessments, business model consulting, and holistic evaluations of sales, marketing, and production teams.
Key Points from the Episode:
Introduction of Jason Pearl, founder and CEO of Nacre Consulting
Origin of the name "Nacre Consulting" and its focus on helping small and medium-sized businesses scale faster
Jason's background in business and leadership, emphasizing the importance of understanding oneself as a leader
Trends in leadership, including the avoidance of healthy conflict and the negative influence of social media
Jason's expertise in leadership development and effective sales, marketing, and leadership strategies
Importance of personal accountability and being the best version of oneself as a leader
Ideal clients for Nacre Consulting: startups looking to scale, companies experiencing flat or declining revenue, fast-scaling companies lacking talent, strategy, and structure
Services offered by Nacre Consulting: growth assessments, business model consulting, holistic evaluations of sales, marketing, and production teams
Nacre Consulting's growth from a solopreneur venture to a small team of consultants
About Jason Pearl:
Jason Pearl is a seasoned business strategist known for his transformative impact on companies' revenue and growth. Over his career, he has played a pivotal role in generating over $500 million in revenue for numerous businesses.
As the founder of a growth consulting agency, Jason shifted his focus from individual companies to empowering a broader spectrum of businesses.
His mission extends beyond conventional success, emphasizing the importance of uncovering greatness, fostering strong leadership, and building enduring success.
Throughout his journey, Jason discovered a profound strength in driving business revenue and understanding, motivating, and leading the people integral to these successful ventures.
Rejecting conventional norms in business and life, he is determined to revolutionize approaches to success.
With decades of experience, Jason is dedicated to sharing insights on achieving success in business and life, challenging the traditional paradigms and demonstrating that everyone can achieve victory with the right mindset and strategies.
About Nacre Consulting:
Nacre Consulting is a catalyst for accelerated growth, empowering small to medium-sized businesses with customized sales, marketing, and leadership programs.
With a mission to propel businesses forward, Nacre focuses on optimizing the potential within the teams that drive each brand.
By tailoring strategies to individual business needs, Nacre aims to facilitate faster and smarter scaling, offering a dynamic approach to navigate the complexities of growth.
The consultancy strongly emphasizes unlocking untapped potential within teams, recognizing that the key to endless growth opportunities lies in the collective strength of the people behind the brand.
With a commitment to personalized solutions, Nacre Consulting is a strategic partner dedicated to propelling businesses to new heights through effective team engagement and targeted growth initiatives.
Tweetable Moments:
6:05 - "I want to be a leader that takes action and gets things done right, gets results right."
08:04 - "One of the trends I see is people ignoring pain, they ignore it or they put it to the side and then it becomes a much larger issue."
10:05 - "It just the fact that you have as a leader the ability to only hold yourself accountable and make sure that you're being the best Josh, being the best Jason I can be."
0:50 - “Winning and success is a personal, individualized choice that you make every single day."
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Links Mentioned in this Episode:
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https://www.nacreconsulting.com/
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https://www.linkedin.com/company/nacre-consulting-llc/
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https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonmpearl/
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Dec 31, 2023 • 20min
1775 – The Evolving Role of Communication Agencies with Jules Herd
In this episode of the Thoughtful Entrepreneur, your host Josh Elledge speaks with the Managing Director & Founder of Five in a Boat Limited, Jules Herd.
Jules explained how the role of communication agencies like Five in a Boat has shifted from traditional communications to more of a business consultancy. They help scale-up companies secure funding by advising them on investment and ensuring they have a presence in important publications and platforms like Forbes and TechCrunch.
In addition to this, they also assist with reputation management, crisis communication, and product launches. Jules emphasized the importance of being proactive in managing reputation and shared an example of how they helped a client in the gaming industry navigate challenging times.
One of the key topics she discussed was the relevance of communication strategy for early-stage businesses. Jules explained that early-stage companies can become thought leaders in their industries by effectively communicating their unique offerings.
She suggested that companies should hire an agency like Five in a Boat from the start, but only if their product is ready and they are in the right headspace to utilize communication professionals effectively.
Key Points from the Episode:
Introduction of Jules Herd, Managing Director of Five in a Boat
Overview of Five in a Boat's services as a strategic communications agency
Shift from traditional communications to business consultancy
Assistance with securing funding, reputation management, crisis communication, and product launches
Importance of proactive reputation management and a case study in the gaming industry
Relevance of communication strategy for early-stage businesses
Recommendation to hire an agency like Five in a Boat from the start
Meaning behind the name "Five in a Boat" representing teamwork and collaboration
About Jules Herd:
Jules Herd, a BA Hons in Public Relations graduate, boasts a 23-year career in communications, notably as the former Global VP of Communications for HTC and Deezer.
In 2018, she founded her consultancy, Five in a Boat, after diverse experiences with brands like Microsoft, AMD, Disney, Virgin, Codemasters, and KLM. Passionate about Diversity and Inclusion, Jules advocates for industry equality and addresses fertility issues based on personal experience.
A Samaritans contributor, she actively supports families and champions mental health. Beyond Five in a Boat, Jules owns Blind Swan, a globally recognized contemporary gin, co-owns EV Cables, writes for Forbes, and serves as a trustee for charity One in Four.
Jules, a married mother of an eight-year-old, balances her professional life with rowing, running, travel, karaoke, and newfound painting skills exhibited on Thortful's website post-lockdown.
About Five in a Boat Limited:
Five in a Boat is an independent London-based communications consultancy with extensive international experience, specializing in delivering impactful results for brands.
Their approach prioritizes clarity in goals, meaningful audience engagement, freedom for innovation, and building effective teams.
The consultancy challenges the status quo with an innovative and collaborative mindset, simplifying complexities and striving to understand clients' businesses thoroughly.
Founded by a former Global Vice President of Communications for HTC and Deezer, Five in a Boat draws on 18 years of expertise in developing communication strategies for leading brands.
The seasoned communications experts team aims to elevate other brands by applying their wealth of experience to push communication strategies to new heights.
With a commitment to turning challenges into opportunities, Five in a Boat is dedicated to driving strong brand awareness and engagement for successful business growth.
Tweetable Moments:
12:19 - "If it isn't going to deliver something that is absolutely aligned with whatever your core objectives are, it's a pointless exercise. Don't bother."
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Dec 30, 2023 • 21min
1774 – The Importance of Marketing and Product Validation with Marcy McKenna
In this episode of the Thoughtful Entrepreneur, your host Josh Elledge speaks to the Founder & CEO, Marcy McKenna.
Marcy founded the Women Inventors Club to support ambitious women with creative ideas and guide them toward product success. Two statistics that motivated her to help inventors were the low percentage of patents filed by women and the low percentage of inventors who make money with their products. She believes many inventors get stuck in the process due to lacking marketing and product validation.
Marcy emphasizes the importance of thinking about marketing from the beginning and validating ideas before investing time and resources. I couldn't agree more with her on this. Execution is key in realizing dreams, and timing and choice are equally significant.
Marcy shared her five-step product validation process, which is crucial in determining if a product idea is marketable and profitable. She stressed the need to understand if customers are willing to pay for the product and if the numbers work out. This validation process is valuable in learning about the customer, the competitive landscape, and setting oneself apart in the market.
Marcy advised inventors to create initial prototypes at home using readily available materials for proof of concept. She cautioned against hiring expensive prototyping companies immediately, as their results may not align with the inventor's vision.
Marcy suggests playing with the prototype and fine-tuning it before considering professional prototyping. She also mentioned using photorealistic 3D renderings to showcase the product's appearance and functionality, which can be helpful in licensing discussions.
Key Points from the Episode:
Marcy McKenna's work as an inventor and entrepreneur
The Women Inventors Club and its mission to support ambitious women with creative ideas
Low percentage of patents filed by women and inventors who make money with their products
Importance of marketing and product validation in the invention process
Marcy's five-step product validation process
Creating initial prototypes at home using readily available materials
Caution against immediately hiring expensive prototyping companies
Use of photorealistic 3D renderings to showcase product appearance and functionality
Marcy's work with inventors and her efforts to empower them
About Marcy McKenna:
Marcy McKenna is a prominent figure in product innovation and entrepreneurship. Renowned as a keynote speaker, she has successfully conceptualized, developed, and launched over 40 products through various channels, including home shopping platforms like QVC and HSN, ecommerce, and major retailers nationwide.
Marcy's expertise extends to product development, marketing strategy, and consumer product branding, making her a sought-after consultant in ecommerce and traditional retail.
With over 12 years of experience in the Live Shopping space, she is recognized for her proficiency in social media, email marketing, and shoppable video content.
Notably, Marcy excels in hosting Live Shopping events on diverse platforms such as Amazon Live, Pinterest TV, YouTube Live, and others, showcasing her versatility and impact in the evolving digital commerce landscape.
As an Amazon Influencer and Live Shopping Host, she regularly engages audiences, contributing to the success of numerous brands.
Tweetable Moments:
07:51 - "Finding out if your idea has a market and is salable is a critical step that many inventors skip."
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