

In Confidence with Lisa Sun: A Gravitas Podcast
Lisa Sun
What would happen if you let go of fear, stepped off the sidelines, and jumped boldly into the game of life? That’s exactly what we’re unpacking here on In Confidence. Hosted by Lisa Sun, founder and CEO of Gravitas, bestselling author, and confidence expert, this is your go-to space for personal growth, resilience, and stepping into your power.
Because what we share in confidence helps us grow In Confidence.
Subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts & follow @GravitasNewYork @LisaLSun
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Because what we share in confidence helps us grow In Confidence.
Subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts & follow @GravitasNewYork @LisaLSun
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Suggestions or questions? Email us at InConfidence@GravitasNewYork.com
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Jul 15, 2025 • 27min
Episode 21: How to Reset After a Job Loss
What happens when your title is stripped away, your inbox goes quiet, and your Monday morning feels like a void? In this deeply personal episode of In Confidence, Lisa opens up about her own experience being fired as a startup CEO and what came next. Whether you've been laid off, restructured out, or let go, Lisa shares emotional insights, mindset shifts, and practical strategies to help you move forward.
You’ll learn:
What happens in your brain and body after a professional loss
How to quiet your inner critic and confront shame
Ways to channel your strengths and maintain momentum
How to redefine success based on resilience, not your resume
If this hasn’t happened to you, it’s probably happened to someone you know and care about. Share this episode with them and remind them (or yourself): your job doesn’t define your worth.
00:00 Intro
01:20 Lisa's Story of Being Fired
07:16 What Happens When There Is a Job Loss
09:21 The Inner Critic Triggered
12:59 Shift Your Mindset and the Self-Sustaining Superpower
16:29 Have Your Shame Buddy
17:33 Don’t Lose Momentum
20:55 Have a Plan
21:40 Redefine Success
23:12 Recognize Your Resourcefulness
24:24 Final Thought and Success Story
26:13 Outro
26:59 Disclaimer
Connect With Us So You Never Miss a Moment of Inspiration:
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Email Us at inconfidence@gravitasnewyork.com

Jul 11, 2025 • 46min
Episode 20: Heal Your Busy Brain Before You Burn Out with Dr. Romie Mushtaq
Burnout isn’t just feeling tired. It’s a brain and body stuck in survival mode.
In this powerful episode of In Confidence, Dr. Romie Mushtaq, brain doctor, Chief Wellness Officer, and bestselling author of The Busy Brain Cure, joins Lisa for a candid conversation about how stress rewires your brain, why so many of us are operating in "busy brain" mode, and how to heal using real science.
What you’ll get from this episode:
-How to decode your Busy Brain Score and what it reveals about your stress levels
-The difference between chronic stress and burnout (and why it matters)
-A science-backed morning ritual to reset your nervous system
-Why hope is a measurable mindset and a leadership superpower
Walk away with practical tools to calm your mind, protect your energy, and move forward with purpose.
00:00 Intro
00:35 Meet Dr. Romie Mushtaq
00:58 Dr Romie's Story: Burnout, Illness, and Finding Purpose
03:00 The Busy Brain Cure: Why She Wrote It
07:14 Understanding Your "Brain Score" and the Busy Brain Quiz
09:20 Busy Brain vs Burnout
10:43 Neuroscience of Storytelling and Self-Talk
14:49 The Importance of Morning Rituals
22:16 Burnout: Where to Begin
24:05 Diet is a Four Letter Curse Word
27:29 Busy Brain Lab Tests
29:18 The Science of Hope
37:12 Is Working 24/7 The Only Path to Success?
42:28 Final Thoughts and Questions
44:49 Outro
45:57 Disclaimer
Want to learn more from Dr. Romie?
Take the Busy Brain Test
Get her book The Busy Brain Cure
Visit her website
Connect With Us So You Never Miss a Moment of Inspiration:
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Suggestions or Questions?
Email Us at inconfidence@gravitasnewyork.com

Jul 8, 2025 • 34min
Episode 19: How to Strengthen Every Relationship in Your Life
In our first episode of Season 2, Lisa shares why trust is the next big idea she’s exploring—drawing from two decades of consulting, leadership, and personal reflection. You’ll learn why trust is often fragile, how our brains process betrayal more intensely than connection, and her four-part framework to help you turn trust into an intentional skill set in every area of your life.
In this episode you'll learn:
Why trust is the foundation of strong relationships
How to turn trust into a teachable, practical skill
The 4 components of trust: Reliability, Congruence, Acceptance, and Openness
A self-assessment to help you reflect and rebuild trust in any relationship
This season, we’re building the trust muscle and it starts here.
00:00 Intro
01:41 Why Lisa Is Passionate About Trust
05:55 Trust Is Everywhere
07:34 Why Trust Matters
11:30 The Trust Deficit
13:46 The Neuroscience of Trust and Betrayal
17:46 The Iceberg Model of Trust
18:50 Lisa's 4 Components of Trust
24:01 Trust Assessment Exercise
27:41 Real-Life Examples (Work and Personal)
30:43 From Transactional to Transformational
31:28 Final Thoughts
32:48 Outro
33:21 Disclaimer
As seen on this episode: The Dragon Collection
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Connect With Us So You Never Miss a Moment of Inspiration:
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May 23, 2025 • 17min
Episode 18: Growing In Confidence | Season 1 Highlight Reel
At the heart of this podcast is a belief: what we share in confidence helps us grow in confidence. Season 1 has been full of honest conversations, hard-won wisdom, and vulnerable truths that made all of us a little braver. To close out this first chapter of In Confidence, we’ve created a highlight reel to reflect on those moments.
In this episode, you’ll hear:
Deep dives into the core themes from Gravitas: The 8 Strengths That Redefine Confidence.
Advice and insights from guests that shifted our thinking and strengthened our resolve.
Mic-drop moments that changed how we lead, connect, and step into our power.
Season 2 is coming. But before we look ahead, let this finale remind you of everything you already are. And in the words we’ve ended every episode with this season: I see you. I value you. I believe in you.
This is In Confidence.
00:00 Intro
01:41 Episode 1 Your Life Story is Your Leadership Story
02:02 Episode 2 It's Time to Stop Apologizing. Say This Instead.
03:26 Episode 4 You Only Need 19 Seconds to Tap Into Your Full Potential.
03:53 Episode 6 You've Been Thinking About Confidence All Wrong. Here's The Truth.
04:40 Episode 9 The Mindset Shift You Need for Returning to Office
06:16 Episode 14 Your Guide on How to Break through Setback With The Power You Already Have
07:00 Episode 16 Have You Ever Been Called Bossy? You're Not Alone and You're Not The Problem
07:41 Episode 17 The Art of Small Talk: A Guide for When You Don’t Know Anyone in the Room
08:17 Episode 5 Keep Moving Forward With Vicky Nguyen
08:54 Episode 7 If We Had Our Own Place with Jenny Nguyen
10:09 Episode 10 Transform Any Moment Into A Win-Win with Dr. Wendy Borlabi
11:05 Episode 11 Art That Meets The Moment with Schele Williams
12:10 Episode 13 The Performing Superpower & How to be Great at Karaoke with Ada Tseng
14:01 Episode 15 Scaling Magic While Normalizing Wobbliness with Lindsay Shookus
14:53 Outro and Thank You
15:57 Episode 8 Why Women Love Romantasy Novels
AS SEEN IN THE EPISODE
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Meet Our Best-Sellers
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May 16, 2025 • 12min
Episode 17: The Art of Small Talk: A Guide for When You Don’t Know Anyone in the Room
Like it or not, small talk is part of life. And whether you love it or dread it, it helps to have some gravitas going into the room.
In this episode of In Confidence, Lisa shares how to approach small talk with intention so you’re not just getting through it, but actually making the most of it. Whether you’re at a networking event, a wedding where you barely know anyone, or like Lisa, your college reunion, these moments can turn into something meaningful.
What you'll get from this episode:
The mindset shift that makes walking into a room feel less intimidating.
5 tips to help you make real connections.
How to move from surface chatter to something that feels more personal.
Plus, our downloadable PDF guide to help you prep before your next event.
Small talk isn’t about filling the silence. It’s about creating something real.
00:00 Intro
00:59 Why Small Talk Matters More Than You Think
02:15 Resetting Your Mindset
04:10 5 Tips To Master Small Talk
09:50 Final Thoughts and a Free Downloadable PDF
10:45 Outro
11:09 Disclaimer
AS SEEN IN THE EPISODE
From Our Studio to Your Closet
Meet the Corazon Blouse: https://gravitasnewyork.com/products/corazon-button-down-blouse
Connect With Us So You Never Miss a Moment of Inspiration:
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May 9, 2025 • 16min
Episode 16: Have You Ever Been Called Bossy? You're Not Alone and You're Not The Problem
Have you ever been called bossy, cold, or intimidating at work? Or been told you're too quiet to lead? In this episode of In Confidence, we unpack the triple standard women face at work and how it affects how we’re perceived, promoted, and valued. Through personal stories, surprising research, and tactical ways to reframe the narrative, Lisa shares how the Leading superpower can be both your greatest strength and your most misunderstood quality. Learn how to expand the scorecard for success, advocate for yourself in real time, and lead with both clarity and connection.
Let’s redefine what leadership really looks like.
00:00 Intro
00:43 Defining the Triple Standard
02:58 The Hidden Bias Behind Promotion
03:57 Expanding the Scorecard and Helping Women Embrace and Appreciate Their Superpowers
05:40 How to Respond When You've Been Called Bossy
10:04 Balancing Leadership with Connection
13:46 Final Thoughts: You're Not Bossy, You're Leading
14:57 Outro
15:23 Disclaimer
Connect With Us So You Never Miss a Moment of Inspiration:
Visit Our Website
Get Our Best-Selling Book in Paperback
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Suggestions or Questions?
Email Us at inconfidence@gravitasnewyork.com

May 2, 2025 • 42min
Episode 15: Scaling Magic While Normalizing Wobbliness with Lindsay Shookus
In this episode of In Confidence, Lisa sits down with Lindsay Shookus—former SNL producer, co-founder of Women Work F#cking Hard, and speaker—to talk about reinvention, resilience, and redefining success.Lindsay shares what it looks like to embrace uncertainty, build a “portfolio life,” and trust in your own talents, even through wobbly moments.
Key Takeaways:
Why “normalizing wobbliness” is crucial when navigating career transitions or reinvention
How to build a portfolio career based on energy, joy, and trust in your talents
Strategies for making meaningful connections (even if you're introverted)
Why showing up, especially when you don’t feel like it, can change your life
00:00 Intro
00:50 Meet Lindsay Shookus
03:48 What It Really Takes to Leave a 20-Year Career
11:03 Founding WWFH and Creating a Space for Women to Support Each Other
17:55 Authentic Connection, Showing Up, and Advice for Introverts
21:20 Letting the Universe Guide What's Next
22:52 The Portfolio Life: Reinvention, Speaking, and Creative Problem Solving
33:50 Normalizing Wobbliness and Discomfort
37:06 Final Thoughts and What She's Most Excited About
41:07 Outro
42:01 Disclaimer
Seen on Lisa in this episode: the Unbossed & Unbought Sweatshirt, inspired by Shirley Chisholm's 1972 Presidential campaign slogan. Chisholm challenged societal norms to give marginalized groups a voice, becoming the first Black Congresswoman and the first Black woman to run for a major-party presidential nomination. Get yours today on GravitasNewYork.com.
Connect With Us So You Never Miss a Moment of Inspiration:
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Email Us at inconfidence@gravitasnewyork.com

Apr 25, 2025 • 7min
Episode 14: Your Guide on How to Break through Setback With The Power You Already Have
This episode of In Confidence gives you two tools to name what’s holding you back and recognize the strengths already within you that will help you push through it. Lisa walks you through a weekend reflection practice on the six forces that fuel your inner critic and invites you to rediscover your confidence through the Gravitas Confidence Language Quiz.
You’ll leave this episode with more clarity, more self-belief, and a simple mindset shift: the thing standing in your way isn’t stronger than the power you already have.
Take our Confidence Language Quiz
Head to our website to download the episode worksheets
00:00 Intro
00:39 Exercise 1: Identifying the Six Forces That Hold You Back
01:46 Lisa’s Personal Story: Facing the Satisfaction Conundrum
03:15 Exercise 2: Take the Confidence Language Quiz
03:33 How to Interpret Your Quiz Results
04:31 A Family Breakthrough from the Quiz
06:12 What Changes When You Name Your Strengths
06:31 Outro
06:59 Disclaimer
Connect With Us So You Never Miss a Moment of Inspiration:
Visit Our Website
Get Our Best-Selling Book in Paperback
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Suggestions or Questions? Email Us.
E-Mail: inconfidence@gravitasnewyork.com

Apr 18, 2025 • 47min
Episode 13: The Performing Superpower and How to be Great at Karaoke with Ada Tseng
Only 12% of people have the Performing superpower—the ability to shine in front of others with ease. But what if you could practice it in a way that’s low-stakes, joyful, and just plain fun?
In this episode, Lisa explores how karaoke can be a powerful tool for building confidence in everyday life. She’s joined by writer, editor, and karaoke journalist Ada Tseng, creator of the LA Times Karaoke Generator, to talk about how karaoke helps us get comfortable with the spotlight on our own terms.
In this episode, you’ll learn:
What the Performing superpower is (and why so few of us claim it)
Why karaoke is actually risk-free confidence training
How to pick your perfect karaoke song (with data to back it up)
Why letting go of perfection might be your biggest mic-drop moment
Whether you're karaoke-curious or a seasoned shower-singer, this episode is your permission slip to take up space, sing your heart out, and have fun doing it.
00:00 Intro: Why karaoke is a powerful tool for building confidence
00:42 The performing superpower and how we develop it
03:46 Real-life growth: Performing in everyday situations
08:10 Karaoke as practice: A safe, joyful way to build the performing superpower
09:54 Meet Ada Tseng, karaoke journalist and creator of the LA Times Karaoke Generator
14:44 Karaoke as culture, connection, and self-care
18:08 From stage fright to spotlight: Building confidence through song
24:44 What makes a great karaoke song and Lisa and Ada’s top tips
27:42 Letting go of perfection and having fun with it
33:30 Are women held to a higher standard? Making karaoke a judgment-free zone
38:57 The Gravitas team’s favorite karaoke songs
43:53 Final thoughts and Ada’s post-marathon karaoke celebration
46:23 Outro
46:41 Disclaimer
Connect With Us So You Never Miss a Moment of Inspiration:
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Suggestions or Questions? Email Us.
E-Mail: inconfidence@gravitasnewyork.com

Apr 15, 2025 • 8min
Episode 12: Inventions That Changed Our Lives and It's All Thanks to Women
In this special episode of In Confidence, Lisa shares the story of a tiny plaque on the Brooklyn Bridge that sparked a big realization: women have built the world we live in, but their names are often left out of the story. From Wi-Fi to Monopoly, dishwashers to life rafts, Lisa highlights five surprising everyday inventions created by women and why it’s time we give them the credit they’ve always deserved.
This episode is both a celebration and a reclamation. It’s a reminder that behind every great invention, there’s often a woman whose brilliance made it possible—even if she didn’t get the spotlight. Tune in and be inspired to not just honor the past, but to build boldly into the future.
00:00 Intro
01:40 The Inspiration Behind This Episode
02:10 Five Inventions That Were Created by Women
05:28 Even More Inventions You Didn’t Know Were Invented by Women
06:34 Final Thoughts
06:44 Outro
07:09 Disclaimer
Connect With Us So You Never Miss a Moment of Inspiration:
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Get Our Best-Selling Book in Paperback
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Suggestions or Questions? Email Us.
E-Mail: inconfidence@gravitasnewyork.com


