

In Confidence with Lisa Sun: A Gravitas Podcast
Lisa Sun
What would happen if you let go of fear, stepped off the sidelines, and jumped boldly into the game of life? That’s exactly what we’re unpacking here on In Confidence. Hosted by Lisa Sun, founder and CEO of Gravitas, bestselling author, and confidence expert, this is your go-to space for personal growth, resilience, and stepping into your power.
Because what we share in confidence helps us grow In Confidence.
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Because what we share in confidence helps us grow In Confidence.
Subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts & follow @GravitasNewYork @LisaLSun
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Suggestions or questions? Email us at InConfidence@GravitasNewYork.com
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Apr 11, 2025 • 60min
Episode 11: Art That Meets The Moment with Schele Williams
From performing in Rent and Aida to directing The Notebook and The Wiz, Schele Williams has built a legacy not only through what she’s accomplished, but through how she leads.
In this episode of In Confidence, Lisa and Schele sit down to discuss how the discipline, heart, and conviction she’s carried through her career have shaped the way she shows up.
What You’ll Learn:
Why representation behind the table can change the entire story.
How to shift from scarcity to a purpose-driven mindset.
What it takes to overcome stage fright and own your voice.
Why your peers aren’t your competition, but your inspiration.
Whether you're navigating your own creative path or redefining leadership in any industry, this conversation is a masterclass that will leave you thinking bigger and rooting harder for the people around you.
00:00 Intro
00:43 Meet Schele Williams
01:44 Getting Started in the Arts
07:41Love for the Arts
09:21 Transitioning from Performer to Director
10:45 Her First Directing Opportunity
13:40 Comparing the Roles of Performer and Director
18:33 How Performing Shaped Her Directing Style
21:47 What She Had to Learn to Become a Great Director
23:08 Building Her Leadership Style
25:17 Handling Rejection and Staying Confident
28:28 The Power of Community and Peer Support
32:11 Creating Work You’re Proud Of (Even If Others Don’t Get It)
35:47 Learning to Lead Diverse Teams
38:50 Advice for Overcoming Stage Fright
41:46 Applying Storytelling Across Roles
43:49 How Broadway Is Evolving
50:22 Theater’s Role in Expanding Perspective
53:09 Breaking Barriers in Broadway Leadership
54:54 Writing Your Legacy for the Next Generation
57:20 What’s Ahead and Her Advice for Confidence
58:42 Outro
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E-Mail: inconfidence@gravitasnewyork.com

Apr 4, 2025 • 36min
Episode 10: Transform Any Moment Into A Win-Win with Dr. Wendy Borlabi
Before success happens in reality, it happens in the mind. Whether it’s sinking the game-winning shot or stepping confidently into a high-stakes meeting, elite performers don’t just hope for success, they start out by visualizing it. Dr. Wendy Borlabi, a high-performance expert and sport psychology consultant, has spent her career helping top athletes and leaders harness the power of mental preparation to perform at their peak.
In this episode of In Confidence, Lisa and Dr. Borlabi explore how your mindset shapes outcomes and the mental resilience required to stay focused under pressure and bounce back from setbacks.
Key takeaways include:
* How visualization is a proven tool for peak performance.
* The power of routines.
* How reframing a fear of failure to a ‘win-win’ mindset can lead to breakthroughs.
* The leadership qualities that foster an unstoppable team.
Success isn’t just about talent; it’s about training your mind to succeed. Whether you’re navigating high-pressure moments in sports, business, or everyday life, Dr. Borlabi’s insights will help you build confidence, stay composed, and turn challenges into opportunities.
00:00 Intro
02:00 Meet Dr. Wendy Borlabi
04:07 Love of Sports
08:04 Career in Sports Psychology
10:50 Techniques Shared with Elite Athletes
12:19 The Effectiveness of Routines
15:20 The Importance of Deep Breathing
16:48 How Openness Helps You Build Authentic Connections
19:04 Letting Resistance Play Out
25:37 The Power of Visualization
28:22 Life is About Perspective
29:41 Pulling the Best Out of Your Team
31:33 Women in Male-Dominated Fields
32:59 25 Ideas in 2025 to Accelerate Action for IWD
34:32 Outro
36:00 Disclaimer
Connect With Us So You Never Miss a Moment of Inspiration:
Visit Our Website
Get Our Best-Selling Book in Paperback
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Suggestions or Questions? Email Us.
E-Mail: inconfidence@gravitasnewyork.com

Apr 1, 2025 • 30min
Episode 9: The Mindset Shift You Need for Returning to Office
April 1 marks the calendar for office mandates saying it’s time to go back to working in office 4 to 5 days a week. But for many, this return feels like more than a logistical shift. It’s emotional. It’s generational. And it’s bringing up big questions about purpose, productivity, and power. In this episode, Lisa unpacks why the return-to-office conversation hits such a nerve and how we can make this moment work for everyone.
We cover:
Why returning feels so personal and what generational tensions have to do with it.
The pros and cons of working from home vs in office.
What employees and leaders can do to navigate this transition.
How dressing for work has changed and how to find your new “power look” (yes, sneakers count).
Whether you’re remote forever or back to a badge-in culture, this episode offers tangible strategies for navigating this modern workplace moment with confidence.
00:00 Intro
00:57 Why Are We Resisting This Return?
05:40 Lisa’s Playbook for Returning to the Office
11:22 Turning this Moment Into a Win-Win
12:10 Rethinking Leadership
20:30 It’s an “And,” Not an “Or”
22:38 What Is Your Resistance Telling You?
25:38 Dress for the Moment
28:13 Long-Term Vision
29:36 Outro
30:04 Disclaimer
Connect With Us So You Never Miss a Moment of Inspiration:
Visit Our Website
Get Our Best-Selling Book in Paperback
Follow Gravitas on Instagram
Follow Lisa on Instagram
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Suggestions or Questions? Email Us.
E-Mail: inconfidence@gravitasnewyork.com

Mar 28, 2025 • 45min
Episode 8: Why Women Love Romantasy Novels
In this episode of In Confidence, Lisa is joined by friends, Marybeth Coleman and Lauren Wolf, for a laugh-filled deep dive into romantasy: the genre where fantasy and romance collide. This once quietly passed–between–friends genre has turned into a full-blown cultural moment and offers much more than just dragons and slow-burn romance.
From the book boyfriends of Fourth Wing and the favorite tropes of A Court of Thorns and Roses to the ways these heroines help us reconnect with our own strength, navigate healing, and reflect on the relationships we choose, this is a cozy, candid conversation about why these wildly entertaining reads stick with us long after the final page.
00:00 Intro
02:47 Meet the Guests: Lauren & Marybeth
04:10 What Is Romantasy?
07:30 Lisa's Romantasy Algorithm
08:58 How We Got Hooked: Personal Journeys into the Genre
12:40 From Secret to Mainstream: Normalizing Romantasy
15:30 Yes, Men Read It Too
16:13 Why Women Love Romantasy
19:30 Empowering Heroines & Escapism
21:17 Reflections of Real Life: Adversity, Growth, and Relationships
25:44 From Streaming to Reading: A Shift in What We Crave
29:07 Rapid Fire: Tropes, Favorites, and More
30:21 The Book Boyfriend Phenomenon
37:03 How These Stories Challenge the Way We Live
38:23 Romance vs. Fantasy: Which One Elevates the Other?
40:10 The Community Effect: Romantasy as a Shared Experience
42:25 Outro
44:20 Disclaimer
Connect With Us So You Never Miss a Moment of Inspiration:
Visit Our WebsiteGet Our Best-Selling Book in Paperback
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Suggestions or Questions? Email Us.
E-Mail: inconfidence@gravitasnewyork.com

Mar 21, 2025 • 55min
Episode 7: If We Had Our Own Place with Jenny Nguyen
"The only way we're ever going to watch a women’s game the way it deserves to be watched is if we had our own place.”
It was a passing comment made out of frustration, but for Jenny Nguyen, it sparked a vision that turned into The Sports Bra, the first-ever sports bar dedicated 100% to women’s sports.
In this episode, Jenny, CEO and Founder of The Sports Bra, shares how that one moment changed everything, the risks and triumphs of building something groundbreaking, and why we’re witnessing a turning point for women’s sports.
“All the things I imagined The Sports Bra doing in 10 years, we did in year one. And I realized that I hadn’t dreamed big enough.” — Jenny Nguyen
00:00 Intro
01:17 Jenny Nguyen's Intro
3:00 Jenny's Life Story
6:14 Integrating Into American Culture and Growing Up With Sports In The Household
12:11 Love of Basketball; Being In A Team + Accessibility
15:33 What Sparked The Idea of he Sports Bra
24:52 Entrepreneurship; Tell Everyone Your Idea
27:18 A Chain Reaction of Support
32:17 Grand Opening Day
34:04 Vulnerability is Connection
36:44 What's Next For The Sports Bra
38:02 The Legacy of The Sports Bra
45:44 The Rise of Women's Sports
51:35 Equity in Women's Sports
54:17 Final Thoughts and Recap
55:04 Disclaimer
Wear Jenny's Quote in our Mosaic Collection
The Sports Bra
Connect With Us So You Never Miss a Moment of Inspiration:
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E-Mail: inconfidence@gravitasnewyork.com
For International Women's Day 2025, Gravitas has brought together 25 extraordinary leaders in business, sports, media, technology, and government to share bold ideas on how we can advance gender equality, NOW. The World Economic Forum predicts it will take 134 years to achieve gender equity at the current pace. 134 years is too long to wait.
Get involved with our 25 Ideas in 2025 Accelerate Action campaign by heading to GravitasNewYork.com to download your very own Checklist of 25 Ideas or to buy our Corazon Suffragist blouse. For all of March, a portion of sales supports Catalyst, a non-profit helping to advance gender equity In the workplace.

Mar 18, 2025 • 25min
Episode 6: You've Been Thinking About Confidence All Wrong. Here's The Truth.
Have you ever been told to be more confident? Society has conditioned us to believe confidence means speaking louder or puffing our chest, but what if we’ve been thinking about it all wrong?
In this episode, Lisa reveals a powerful truth: Confidence is a choice and a mindset before it becomes a behavior. It’s not about bravado or performance; it’s about trusting in your own abilities. We’re all born fully self-confident, but over time, six powerful forces shape our inner critic and hold us back. The good news? You can break free and choose gravitas.
If you’ve ever doubted yourself, this episode will change the way you see confidence, because it’s not about being the loudest in the room; it’s about owning your strengths and stepping into your power.Listen in and discover:
Why confidence is a mindset before it’s a behavior
The six forces that hold us back (and how to take away their power)
How to shift your inner dialogue and take control of your narrative
The eight superpowers that redefine confidence, because confidence looks different for everyone
Discover Your Superpowers at MyConfidenceLanguage.com
00:00 Intro
01:14 We're All Born Fully Self-Confident
02:40 The 6 Forces That Hold Us Back
07:09 Breaking Free From The 6 Forces
10:48 Confidence Is A Choice
12:18 The 8 Superpowers That Redefine Confidence
18:31 Lisa's Story and How Shifting Your Mindset Can Empower You
21:15 Your Inner Critic
23:01 Recap and Final Thoughts
24:18 Disclaimer
Connect With Us So You Never Miss a Moment of Inspiration:
Visit Our Website
Get Our Best-Selling Book in Paperback
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Suggestions or Questions? Email Us.
E-Mail: inconfidence@gravitasnewyork.com

Mar 14, 2025 • 41min
Episode 5: Keep Moving Forward With Vicky Nguyen
In this episode of In Confidence, Lisa is joined by her dear friend, Vicky Nguyen, the anchor of NBC Daily News and Chief Consumer Investigative Correspondent for The Today Show. Vicky opens up about her remarkable journey from being a boat baby escaping Vietnam to becoming a trusted national news anchor. She shares insights from her forthcoming book, Boat Baby (out on April 1st), and talks about resilience, vulnerability, and the power of moving forward despite challenges. This episode is a testament to the immigrant experience, the importance of connection, and the strength of family. Listen in for an inspiring conversation full of wisdom and heart.
00:00 Intro
00:48 Vicky Nguyen
02:05 Lisa and Vicky's Friendship
10:04 Confidence and Insecurities at Work and at Home
16:19 Immigrant Experience and Power of Resilience
19:30 Vicky's Book, Boat Baby
25:33 Key Takeaways From Boat Baby
31:13 Era of Transparency and Connection
32:31 Did You Ever Imagine This Life?
36:14 The Real Goal of Boat Baby
39:12 Final Thoughts
39:42 25 Ideas in 2025 to Accelerate Action
40:54 Disclaimer
Connect With Us So You Never Miss a Moment of Inspiration:
Visit Our Website
Get Our Best-Selling Book in Paperback
Follow Gravitas on Instagram
Follow Lisa on Instagram
Connect with Lisa on LinkedIn
Suggestions or Questions? Email Us.
E-Mail: inconfidence@gravitasnewyork.com
Get involved with our 25 Ideas in 2025 Accelerate Action campaign by heading to GravitasNewYork.com to download your very own Checklist of 25 Ideas or to buy our Corazon Suffragist blouse.
For all of March, a portion of sales supports Catalyst, a non-profit helping to advance gender equity In the workplace.

Mar 11, 2025 • 8min
Episode 4: You Only Need 19 Seconds to Tap Into Your Full Potential
In this mini-episode of In Confidence, Lisa introduces a powerful exercise designed to reset your mindset: "7-5-7." Whether you’re facing a setback, feeling anxious, or simply need a quick boost, this simple meditation can help you recenter your energy. Lisa explains why this exercise is so effective and how she uses it daily, from the beginning of her keynotes to moments of stress. You’ll get a chance to experience it firsthand as Lisa walks you through each step and explains how it can be used to release negative emotions and tap into your personal power. Discover how this small practice can make a life-changing difference on how you take on the day.
00:00 Intro
01:03 7-5-7 Exercise
04:05 The Power Of This Exercise
07:23 Final Thoughts
07:54 Disclaimer
Connect With Us So You Never Miss a Moment of Inspiration:
Visit Our Website
Get Our Best-Selling Book in Paperback
Follow Gravitas on Instagram
Follow Lisa on Instagram
Connect with Lisa on LinkedIn
Suggestions or Questions? Email Us.
E-Mail: inconfidence@gravitasnewyork.com
For International Women's Day 2025, Gravitas has brought together 25 extraordinary leaders in business, sports, media, technology, and government to share bold ideas on how we can advance gender equality, NOW. The World Economic Forum predicts it will take 134 years to achieve gender equity at the current pace. 134 years is too long to wait.
Get involved with our 25 Ideas in 2025 Accelerate Action campaign by heading to GravitasNewYork.com to download your very own Checklist of 25 Ideas or to buy our Corazon Suffragist blouse. For all of March, a portion of sales supports Catalyst, a non-profit helping to advance gender equity In the workplace.

Mar 8, 2025 • 6min
Episode 3: This is How Gravitas is Celebrating International Women's Day
Join us for this special In Confidence episode as we celebrate International Women’s Day—a day dedicated to recognizing achievements, reflecting on progress, and taking action for gender equality. On this episode, Lisa dives into the history of International Women’s Day, shares why this day is so important to the mission of Gravitas, and introduces an exciting Gravitas IWD campaign and how you can help Accelerate Action toward gender equity in 2025 and beyond.
Tune in to honor those who paved the way, so we can continue to carve a wider path forward.
00:00 Intro
00:45 History of International Women's Day
01:27 Why IWD is important to us at Gravitas
03:12 Gravitas' IWD 2025 campaign
04:38 How you can get involved
Get involved with our 25 Ideas in 2025 Accelerate Action campaign by heading to GravitasNewYork.com to download your very own Checklist of 25 Ideas or to buy our Corazon Suffragist blouse. For all of March, a portion of sales supports Catalyst, a non-profit helping to advance gender equity In the workplace.
Connect With Us So You Never Miss a Moment of Inspiration:
Visit Our Website
Get Our Best-Selling Book in Paperback
Follow Gravitas on Instagram
Follow Lisa on Instagram
Connect with Lisa on LinkedIn
Suggestions or Questions? Email Us.
E-Mail: inconfidence@gravitasnewyork.com

Mar 6, 2025 • 13min
Episode 2: Stop Apologizing. Say This Instead.
Have you ever found yourself saying "sorry" even when you haven’t done anything wrong? In this episode of In Confidence, Lisa Sun challenges the habit of apologizing unnecessarily and explores how it holds us back. How do we break out of a deficit mindset or shrinking effect? By replacing "sorry" with "thank you." Lisa also introduces the "Sorry Counter," a powerful tool to help you track and reduce the times you apologize when it’s not necessary, empowering you to communicate more confidently.
There’s no time for apologies when you’re stepping into your full power.
00:00 Intro
01:36 Why Do We Apologize
03:47 Replace Sorry with Thank You
04:47 Alternatives to Sorry
09:09 The Sorry Counter
12:20 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
12:48 Disclaimer
Connect With Us So You Never Miss a Moment of Inspiration:
Visit Our Website
Get Our Best-Selling Book in Paperback
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Follow Lisa on Instagram
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Suggestions or Questions? Email Us.
E-Mail: inconfidence@gravitasnewyork.com


