

In Confidence with Lisa Sun: A Gravitas Podcast
Lisa Sun
What would happen if you let go of fear, stepped off the sidelines, and jumped boldly into the game of life? That’s exactly what we’re unpacking here on In Confidence. Hosted by Lisa Sun, founder and CEO of Gravitas, bestselling author, and confidence expert, this is your go-to space for personal growth, resilience, and stepping into your power.
Because what we share in confidence helps us grow In Confidence.
Subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts & follow @GravitasNewYork @LisaLSun
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Because what we share in confidence helps us grow In Confidence.
Subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts & follow @GravitasNewYork @LisaLSun
Transcripts: GravitasNewYork.com
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Aug 19, 2025 • 20min
Episode 31: Ask Lisa Anything: Workplace Conflicts, Tough Feedback, and Office Gossip
Have you ever finished one of our In Confidence episodes feeling inspired, only to face a situation that puts those ideas to the test? In this “Ask Lisa Anything” episode, Lisa answers three listener-submitted workplace dilemmas and shares the tools to navigate them with confidence.
In this episode, we tackle:
A respectful, trust-building way to challenge a higher-up’s decision
How to process and act on tough feedback without losing momentum
Practical steps to avoid the gossip trap and strengthen workplace relationships
We love hearing your questions and stories. Keep them coming so we can continue learning from each other and growing stronger together because what we share in confidence helps us grow in confidence.
00:00 Intro
01:58 How to Challenge the Decision from Someone Higher Up
05:28 What to Do After a Bad Performance Review
13:05 Office Gossip About Someone Who Is Tough to Work With
19:14 Outro
20:03 Disclaimer
Connect With Us So You Never Miss a Moment of Inspiration:
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Email Us at inconfidence@gravitasnewyork.com

Aug 15, 2025 • 57min
Episode 30: Why the Secret to Success is Chasing Failure with Jane Park
We’re taught to chase success, but what if the real growth comes from chasing failure? In this episode of In Confidence, Lisa sits down with her best friend, Jane Park, founder of Julep and Tokki, and former director at Starbucks and leader at BCG, to talk about why she sets “failure goals” on purpose. Jane shares how reframing failure as a target instead of a setback can help you aim higher, take bigger risks, and uncover who you’re truly meant to be.
You’ll learn:
Why avoiding failure is the enemy of growth and how to rewire your brain to seek it out
The “next time this happens, I will…” method to turn regrets into learnings
How to process rejection, face worst-case scenarios, and keep the conversation going when you hear “no”
This conversation will inspire you to rethink your relationship with failure and see it as proof that you are stretching, growing, and playing bigger than before.
00:00 Intro
01:37 Meet Jane Park
08:22 Why Jane Thinks We Should Strive to Fail
12:00 What Is a Failure Goal?
17:37 No Regrets, Only Learnings
19:51 Why Jane Adopted This Philosophy
22:47 Jane’s Failure of Character Story and What She Learned from It
32:53 How to Process Shame and Embarrassment
34:56 Shame Buddies, Holding Space, and Recognizing Toxic Positivity
39:07 Quick Questions: Ritual to Stay Grounded, Rewards for Failing, Normalizing Failure in the Workplace, Jane’s Professional Failure Rate
48:39 Why Great Risk-Taking Means Being an Expert in Failure
53:16 Try This Failure Goal This Week
55:10 Outro
56:25 Disclaimer
Connect With Us So You Never Miss a Moment of Inspiration:
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Suggestions or Questions?
Email Us at inconfidence@gravitasnewyork.com

Aug 12, 2025 • 22min
Episode 29: How to Own the Room (Even If You Hate Public Speaking)
Only 12% of people feel confident speaking in front of others, which means the rest of us are winging it, sweating through it, or avoiding it altogether. Are you part of the 88% who don’t feel ready for the spotlight? Let’s change that.
In this episode of In Confidence, Lisa shares the rituals, strategies, and mindset shifts that helped her go from a shy immigrant kid to a confident keynote speaker.
What you'll get from this episode:
Lisa’s 3-part framework for public speaking (no stage required)
How body language, breathwork, and playlists can help you show up with power
The storytelling formulas and connection tricks that make your words stick
Public speaking isn’t just for performers. It’s for all of us. And with the right tools, you can get better at it.
00:00 Intro
04:06 What to Expect: 3 Tips for Public Speaking
04:26 Tip 1: Embrace Your Body
13:10 Tip 2: Practice Storytelling
15:24 Tip 3: Energize and Enthuse
20:19 Use Season 1, Episode 1 as a Practice Too
l21:35 Outro
22:05 Disclaimer
Connect With Us So You Never Miss a Moment of Inspiration:
Visit Our Website
Get Our Best-Selling Book in Paperback
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Suggestions or Questions?
Email Us at inconfidence@gravitasnewyork.com

Aug 8, 2025 • 1h 4min
Episode 28: Why K-Pop Matters More Than You Think with Dr. Grace Kao
This week on In Confidence, Lisa sits down with Dr. Grace Kao, IBM Professor of Sociology at Yale University and K-pop expert, to explore why Korean idol groups have taken the world by storm and what their global rise reveals about identity, belonging, and the forces that shape confidence.
This episode unpacks:
The rigorous training system that gives idols unshakable confidence
How fandom creates deep belonging and challenges stereotypes
Why K-pop may be shifting how the world sees Asian identity
Stay with us because this isn’t just about K-pop. It’s about the power of being seen.
*This episode contains discussion of mental health, suicide, and body image. If those topics are sensitive for you, please take care in choosing how and when to listen.
Listen to Dr. Grace Kao's YouTube Playlists:
10-Song Intro to K-Pop
40 Song Intro to K-Pop
00:00 Intro
02:01 Meet Professor Dr. Grace Kao
10:48 How Grace Got Into K-pop
13:07 Lisa’s Story: Reclaiming Identity Through K-pop
16:41 What Makes K-pop Fandom Different
21:50 How Fandom Shapes Identity and Belonging
27:14 How East Asian Men Are Viewed in Media and Dating
31:49 Why K-pop Crossed Over While Other Asian Music Hasn’t
37:33 Biases, Archetypes, and the “Someone for Everyone” Formula
40:52 Idol Romance Rules, Western Collabs, and K-pop’s Film Takeover
45:16 Unrealistic Beauty Standards in K-pop
48:31 Confidence Through Preparation: The Idol Training System
50:08 Mental Health Pressures in the Industry
53:13 The Global Rise of Asian Desirability
56:08 Quick-Fire Round: Music Videos, Bias Picks, and Billboard Highlights
01:01:44 Outro
01:03:32 Disclaimer
Connect With Us So You Never Miss a Moment of Inspiration:
Visit Our Website
Get Our Best-Selling Book in Paperback
Follow Gravitas on Instagram
Follow Lisa on Instagram
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Suggestions or Questions?
Email Us at inconfidence@gravitasnewyork.com

Aug 5, 2025 • 33min
Episode 27: The Key to Understanding Your Coworkers, One Generation at a Time
Think your coworkers are difficult or you just can’t seem to work well together? With Boomers, Gen X, Millennials, and Gen Z all sharing the same workplace, it’s no wonder that collaboration can feel harder than it should. In this episode of In Confidence, Lisa breaks down the values, habits, and communication styles that shape each generation and how to use that insight to build stronger team dynamics at work.
You’ll learn:
Strengths and triggers of each generation and how they show up at work
Why trust starts with curiosity, openness, and acceptance
Practical tools for cross-generational communication and collaboration
Whether you’re managing, mentoring, or just trying to be understood, this episode offers insight for every generation at the table.
00:00 Intro
01:59 What to Expect: 4 Generations in the Workplace
06:19 Generation Overview: Strengths & Challenges
11:07 How to Build Trust Across Generations
12:09 What Each Generation Teaches Us and What Triggers Them
19:00 Resolving Cross-Generational Conflict
30:35 Final Takeaways
31:51 Outro
32:15 Disclaimer
Connect With Us So You Never Miss a Moment of Inspiration:
Visit Our Website
Get Our Best-Selling Book in Paperback
Follow Gravitas on Instagram
Follow Lisa on Instagram
Connect with Lisa on LinkedIn
Suggestions or Questions?
Email Us at inconfidence@gravitasnewyork.com

Aug 1, 2025 • 1h 24min
Episode 26: What It Really Takes to Make a Career Pivot with Nikkia Reveillac
Career pivots can feel overwhelming, but moments of uncertainty are often turning points. Whether you're stuck in a role that no longer fits, scared to take the leap, or navigating a change you didn’t choose, these crossroads offer a chance to grow in new and meaningful ways.
In this episode of In Confidence, Nikkia Reveillac—former professional dancer turned corporate leader at Netflix and Twitter, now entrepreneur and speaker—joins Lisa to reflect on the mindset, courage, and strategy behind her major career pivots. Each transition has helped her begin breaking free from her cage, and now she’s sharing the insights that have guided her along the way.
Highlights from this episode:
How to grieve a career shift without getting stuck in the past
Why taking a pause can lead to better decisions about what’s next
A bold approach to pivoting industries: a talk on resumes and how to stand out from the rest
Your next chapter may feel uncertain, but it could also be the best one yet. So break from your cage.
00:00 Introduction
06:35 Meet Nikkia Reveillac
19:50 The Pivot Conversation Begins
20:27 First Pivot: From Need to Opportunity
26:26 Grieving Dance and Finding Abundance
31:40 Getting Fired From Twitter
39:34 When Feedback Reflects Culture
49:20 Laid Off Without Severance: What Now?
55:11 How to Pivot: Skills, Experimentation, Outreach
1:00:28 Staying Open to What's Next
1:05:06 Hire for Potential, Not Pedigree
1:06:43 Calming the Inner Critic
1:10:48 Breaking Out of the Cage
1:16:41 Sweet Exhaustion: Knowing the Work Still Fits
1:21:25 What’s Next for Nikkia
1:22:11 Outro
1:23:16 Disclaimer
Connect With Us So You Never Miss a Moment of Inspiration:
Visit Our Website
Get Our Best-Selling Book in Paperback
Follow Gravitas on Instagram
Follow Lisa on Instagram
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Suggestions or Questions?
Email Us at inconfidence@gravitasnewyork.com

Jul 29, 2025 • 23min
Episode 25: Feedback Is a Gift: How to Ask for, Give, and Receive It with Confidence
What if the conversation you’ve been avoiding could be the one that helps you grow most?
In this episode of In Confidence, Lisa breaks down the skill of feedback: how to ask for it, how to give it, and how to receive it with openness and grace. Feedback can feel like dynamite or a gift and your mindset makes the difference. With stories from the workplace and personal life, Lisa gives a practical, trust-based roadmap to feedback that builds relationships, not resentment.
What you’ll learn:
A simple, effective way to ask for feedback that gets real answers
How to give feedback with clarity, care, and purpose
The four-step formula that makes feedback easier and more productive
How to receive feedback without spiraling and actually grow from it
Feedback isn’t always easy, but it’s always a chance to show up for ourselves and each other. For access to the downloadable PDFs for this episode, head to our website, GravitasNewYork.com.
00:00 Intro: Giving, Asking, and Receiving Feedback
02:20 Feedback Is a Gift + Lisa’s Story
03:34 Asking for Feedback: “What’s One Thing I Could Do Better?”
06:33 Leave Nothing to Mystery: Real-World Example
09:36 Giving Feedback: Everyone Starts with an A
11:00 What Great Feedback Looks Like vs. What It Doesn’t
13:41 Lisa’s Formula: 4 Steps to Give Clear, Constructive Feedback
14:40 Feedback in Practice: Personal and Work Examples
18:23 Receiving Feedback: Listen Without Defensiveness
21:07 Responding with Trust, Empathy, and Understanding
22:34 Outro
23:03 Disclaimer
Connect With Us So You Never Miss a Moment of Inspiration:
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Get Our Best-Selling Book in Paperback
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Suggestions or Questions?
Email Us at inconfidence@gravitasnewyork.com

Jul 25, 2025 • 1h 19min
Episode 24: How to Ask For a Raise or Promotion with Meggie Palmer, Part 2
Whether you're negotiating for a raise, a new title, or better work-life balance, this episode is your tactical roadmap. In Part 2 of this series, Meggie Palmer joins Lisa to break down what to say, how to say it, and most importantly, how to believe you deserve it.
Prepare for any outcome. Every negotiation ends in Yes, No, or Maybe.
Define your Wish, Want, and Walk figures before you walk into the conversation.
Ask for more than money. Salary is just one part of your total life P&L.
A No today does not mean No forever. Follow up, get creative, and stay in the conversation.
Every negotiation sets a precedent. When you ask for more, you help normalize it for everyone who comes after you.
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AS SEEN IN THE EPISODE
From Our Studio to Your Closet
The Maverick Tee (Emmeline Pankhurst)
01:05 Meet Meggie Palmer: Founder of PepTalkHer
02:18 Why Meggie Created PepTalkHer and Her Mission to Close the Pay Gap
19:35 Why We Struggle to Ask for More and How to Reframe It
30:10 Yes, No, Maybe: The Three Possible Outcomes to Plan For
31:45 Wish, Want, Walk: Define Your Salary Boundaries
35:41 Beyond Salary: Non-Monetary Benefits and Your Total Life P&L
46:55 Keep Your Receipts: Why Documentation Matters
52:29 Advocate for More: Not Just for You but for Others Too
56:06 When the Answer Is Still No: Hard Choices and Next Steps
1:00:02 When Your Boss’s Narrative Doesn’t Match Yours
1:05:58 Negotiating as a Freelancer or in the Gig Economy
1:10:15 Meggie’s Wish: Normalize Transparency Around Money
Connect With Us So You Never Miss a Moment of Inspiration:
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Jul 22, 2025 • 24min
Episode 23: How to Ask For a Raise or Promotion, Part 1
Ever felt ready for more responsibility, recognition, or compensation, but held back from asking? In this solo episode of In Confidence, Lisa shares a powerful reframe: asking for a raise or promotion isn’t about demanding. It’s about declaring your worth. Drawing from her Gravitas superpower framework, she breaks down how to lead the conversation with clarity, strategy, and self-belief.
This conversation sparked so much interest that we decided to turn it into a two-part series. Stay tuned for Part Two with negotiation expert Meggie Palmer, where we dive even deeper into tactical tips, scripts, and strategies.
In Part 1, you’ll learn:
How to reframe fear of asking into a leadership moment
What to prepare for the three raise and promotion scenarios:
A title change with no money
A pay increase without changing your role
A promotion that comes with both more responsibility and more pay
The next step in your career starts with a single conversation. Let’s make sure you’re ready for it.
00:00 Intro
01:09 The Reframe
05:10 The Three Scenarios We're Exploring
06:04 Title Change With No Pay Increase
13:25 A Pay Increase Without Changing Your Role
18:14 A Promotion With a Pay Increase
21:22 Final Thoughts
22:36 Outro
Connect With Us So You Never Miss a Moment of Inspiration:
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Suggestions or Questions?
Email Us at inconfidence@gravitasnewyork.com

Jul 18, 2025 • 1h 8min
Episode 22: The Secret to Looking Good on Camera with Peter Hurley
The secret to looking good on camera isn’t about being flawless. It’s about capturing a moment you’ll want to remember. That’s what world-renowned headshot photographer Peter Hurley has learned after two decades behind the lens. Lighting is important, but it’s the memory the photo holds that matters most.
On this episode of In Confidence, Peter shares why so many of us fear the camera, how to quiet the inner critic, and what it really takes to feel good in front of the lens. You’ll also hear his five go-to tips for being photogenic in any setting. And if you want to see those tips in action, this episode is one to watch.
In this episode, you’ll learn:
The mindset behind photogenic confidence
How to build trust in front of the lens and in life
Why self-doubt shows up the moment the camera does
Why candid, unpolished photos often capture the real you
So don’t skip the photo. It might become your favorite memory.
00:00 Intro
00:40 Meet Peter Hurley
07:37 Pivots and Opportunity Mindset
11:53 Peter's Purpose
13:50 Battling Perfectionism
19:20 What Makes a Great Portrait
21:46 Why People Fear the Camera
24:03 Inner Critic + Building Trust
31:42 Tip #1: Get The Jawline Out
32:20 Trust Comes From Expertise
41:04 Tip #2: Squinching
42:58 More Tips to Get the Best Photo
46:39 Capturing Moments
53:36 Let Your Subconscious Shine Through
55:18 Ideal Camera Angles
59:46 Final Thoughts
Connect With Us So You Never Miss a Moment of Inspiration:
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