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Dr. Michael Levin, Distinguished Professor of Biology at Tufts University, discusses embodied minds, limb regeneration, collective intelligence, and the blurring distinction between life and machines in this engaging episode.

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Professor Michael Levin, a prominent figure in developmental biology and cognitive science, discusses the concept of diverse intelligence that transcends just brain power. He reveals how even simple biological systems demonstrate learning and memory through gene regulatory networks. The talk introduces intriguing ideas like 'cognitive light cones' and explores their transformative impact on cancer treatment and biological engineering. Levin challenges traditional views on intelligence, suggesting it’s a spectrum vital for understanding both biological and artificial systems.

Get your DEMYSTICON 2024 tickets here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/demysticon-2024-tickets-727054969987 Tufts biologist Dr. Michael Levin is back for our third conversation about the future of biology, regenerative medicine, and embodied cognition. We unpack the successes and frustrations of mammalian and reptilian biobots, the reprogramming of cells, and the finer points of cellular intelligence. Welcome to the intersection of biology, technology, and the cosmos! This is the next generation of scientific discovery: biology unleashed. Tell us what you think in the comments or on our Discord: https://discord.gg/MJzKT8CQub Sign up for a yearly Patreon membership for discounted conference tickets: https://bit.ly/3lcAasB (00:00) Go! (00:04:48) The minimum unit of intelligence (00:27:54) Matching the time domain of evolutionary decisions (00:32:11) Biobots (00:42:53) Interface of aritifical and natural intelligence (00:51:10) Use cases for the biobots (00:57:13) Permissivity of biological systems (01:06:30) Generating functional organs (01:14:59) Source of the platonic biological form (01:24:25) Limits of synthetic organisms (01:28:24) Hard limits on the mind (01:42:02) Embodied artificial consciousness (01:46:59) Cognition at mega scales (01:56:34) Levin's evolutionary role (02:01:07) Closing thoughts #BioRobotics #RegenerativeMedicine #CellularIntelligence #FutureTech #ScienceRevolution #IntelligentCells #MindfulBiology #GalacticIntelligence #TechInnovation #BioTechBreakthroughs #AIRevolution #FutureOfMedicine #CellularAssemblage #NewScience #RoboticInnovation #GalacticMindset #BiologyUnleashed #NextGenTech #BioHacking #IntelligentDesign #RoboticRevolution #science #sciencepodcast Check our short-films channel, @DemystifySci: https://www.youtube.com/c/DemystifyingScience AND our material science investigations of atomics, @MaterialAtomics https://www.youtube.com/@MaterialAtomics Join our mailing list https://bit.ly/3v3kz2S PODCAST INFO: Anastasia completed her PhD studying bioelectricity at Columbia University. When not talking to brilliant people or making movies, she spends her time painting, reading, and guiding backcountry excursions. Shilo also did his PhD at Columbia studying the elastic properties of molecular water. When he's not in the film studio, he's exploring sound in music. They are both freelance professors at various universities. - Blog: http://DemystifySci.com/blog - RSS: https://anchor.fm/s/2be66934/podcast/rss - Donate: https://bit.ly/3wkPqaD - Swag: https://bit.ly/2PXdC2y SOCIAL: - Discord: https://discord.gg/MJzKT8CQub - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/DemystifySci - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/DemystifySci/ - Twitter: https://twitter.com/DemystifySci MUSIC: -Shilo Delay: https://g.co/kgs/oty671

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Michael Levin, expert in consciousness, biology, and emergence, challenges reductionist views and explores emergence in biology. Topics include interdisciplinary exploration, cognitive light cones, self-discovery through compression, bioelectricity's role in collective intelligence, and consciousness as a spectrum. Levin's lab's bioelectricity research breakthroughs and advice for newcomers in biology are also discussed.

Michael Levin & Adam Goldstein discuss diverse intelligence, unconventional embodiments, failure of life-machine distinction, the concept of self, the combination problem in cognitive function, regenerative medicine, and the relationship between computation, intelligence, and moral concerns.

Top intellectuals discuss the concept of free will and its implications. Topics include the relationship between actions and the world, emergence of individualization in embryos, illusion of free will in cognitive neuroscience, relativity of existence, indeterminacy in classical mechanics, interpretations of quantum mechanics, and the ontological underpinnings of materialistic perspectives.

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