Jeremy Enns and Justin Jackson, both podcasting experts, dive deep into why audiences often hesitate to engage with podcasts. They explore insightful feedback revealing why listeners may not take action, discuss the importance of quality production, and highlight the role of data in understanding audience preferences. The duo emphasizes the need for creators to ask targeted questions to connect deeply with their audience, and navigate the challenges of engagement while balancing listener dynamics and content strategy.

Jeremy Enns is a prolific content creator with a knack for transforming fleeting thoughts into profitable ideas. He discusses how to break free from mediocre ideas and emphasizes that a perfect routine may actually stifle creativity. Jeremy shares his 'Marathon Project' framework, revealing how to elevate average creators to extraordinary heights. With a focus on structured creativity, he offers practical strategies to maintain productivity and develop a sustainable writing practice, making creativity an inevitable outcome.

E28: Jeremy is the Founder of Podcast Marketing Academy, which is a podcast growth and marketing company helping scrappy podcast centric brands, networks and creators punch above their weight.Today, I speak to him about the four key aspects of his excellent EAR$ framework: Exposure, Attraction, Retention, and Monetization. We also dig into how Jeremy implements them for his own content, and how you can implement them for your content.***EXCERPTS:The Power of Newsletters: "I think that's a way easier ask just because of how we treat newsletters like we don't expect an immediate thing. It's almost like I'm going to subscribe now, and I know that I'm going to get the next newsletter."— Jeremy Enns (9:44)Optimizing Lead Magnets for Higher Conversion Rates: "I realized, like, I have kind of like a messaging problem and maybe a design problem where it doesn't feel legitimate or hooky or compelling enough. And that needed to change if I wanted to get more people onto the list."— Jeremy Enns (13:09)***TOPICS:How Jeremy Got Into Podcasting (3:10)Introduction to the EAR$ Framework (6:11)How to Get Your Content Exposure (7:04)Using Newsletter For 'Exposure' to Podcast (8:31)How to Attract Your Ideal Audience (11:41) How to Retain Your Audience (15:22)How to Analyze Retention For a Podcast (18:06)Why a Big Audience Doesn't Translate to Sales & Monetization (23:34)How To Apply the EAR$ Framework (26:59)***LINKS:Podcast Marketing AcademyFollow Jeremy on TwitterJOIN: First Class Founders Premium MembershipDOWNLOAD: Hyper-Visuals For Our Episodes (Free)***FOLLOW / REVIEW:- Follow - Leave 5-star review***CONNECT W/ YONG-SOO:- X- Threads- LinkedIn- Newsletter***First Class Founders is a show for indie hackers, bootstrapped founders, CEOs, solopreneurs, content creators, startup entrepreneurs, and SaaS startups covering topics like build in public, audience growth, product marketing, scaling up, side hustles, holding company, etc. Past guests include Arvid Kahl, Tyler Denk, Noah Kagan, Clint Murphy, Jay Abraham, Andrew Gazdecki, Matt McGarry, Nick Huber, Khe Hy, and more. Episode you might like:Future of Newsletters with Tyler Denk, Founder & CEO at BeehiivFrom Zero to 100K Subscribers: How to Grow Your Newsletter like a Pro with Newsletter Growth Expert Matt McGarry...

Podcast marketing expert Jeremy Enns discusses the synergy between newsletters and podcasts, practical steps to start a podcast, and the benefits of having a newsletter for your podcast. The episode provides actionable advice for content creators looking to enhance their strategy with podcasts and newsletters.

Jeremy Enns, podcast marketer and sherpa, shares insights on developing a focused approach to podcast marketing, the importance of sound quality, combining marketing tactics, promoting newsletters instead of ads, benefits of living in Europe for productivity, and finding balance in work schedule.