
 The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe
 The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe 441: Jillian Michaels—Keeping It (Very) Real
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 Jun 24, 2025  Jillian Michaels, a leading fitness expert and beloved television personality from The Biggest Loser, dives into various hot topics. She shares candid thoughts on social media censorship and the frustrations of California's bureaucracy. The conversation covers navigating gender dysphoria in children, the complexities of nutrition science, and the intricacies of ethical business practices in the fitness industry. Jillian emphasizes the importance of personalized health advice and maintaining integrity while addressing broader socio-political issues with a mix of humor and insight. 
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Jillian's Fire Loss Experience
- Jillian Michaels lost a home in the Woolsey fire and faced a year-long permit process for cleanup.
- The difficulty led her to sell the property instead of rebuilding, highlighting local bureaucracy.
California's Tax vs Service Gap
- California collects high taxes but delivers poor services like education and healthcare.
- Misplaced priorities and incompetence fuel residents' frustration, leading some to leave the state.
Wildfires Worsened by Politics
- Forest mismanagement and political decisions worsen California wildfires.
- Funding, lobbying, and ignoring expert bills contribute to recurring destruction.



