

The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe
The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe
What started as a series of short mysteries for the curious mind with a short attention span has evolved into enlightening conversations for the not-so-short attention span. Whether it’s a short mystery, a long conversation, or an audio book, The Way I Heard It is a veritable box of chocolates for the ears, because you never know what you’re going to get.
Episodes
Mentioned books

Oct 28, 2025 • 2h 15min
456: Gavin de Becker—Forbidden Facts
Gavin de Becker, a renowned security expert and author of Forbidden Facts, dives deep into government deceit surrounding childhood vaccines. He unveils shocking revelations from leaked transcripts that show predetermined conclusions about vaccine safety. Gavin discusses the emotional and societal effects of the pandemic, including how fear shaped public behavior. He challenges accepted narratives about the RFK assassination, presenting evidence that questions the official story. This insightful conversation urges skepticism and critical thinking about powerful institutions.

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Oct 21, 2025 • 1h 52min
455: Philip Diehl—Flying Over the Hump
In this engaging conversation, Philip Diehl, former Director of the U.S. Mint and current president of U.S. Money Reserve, delves into the fascinating world of coinage. He shares the story behind the wildly successful 50 State Quarters program and offers insights into the Mint's operations and security, including Fort Knox. Diehl also discusses the ongoing significance of gold, the importance of skilled trades, and the challenges faced in redesigning currency. Plus, hear how historical elements can intersect with money and public service.

Oct 14, 2025 • 1h 21min
454: Amie Ichikawa—You Can’t Bring a Vagina to a Penis Fight
Amie Ichikawa, a former inmate and founder of Woman II Woman, shares her compelling insights on the challenges faced by women in prison. She reveals the startling reality of intact men being housed in women’s facilities and the safety concerns surrounding it. Amie discusses the dehumanizing conditions within the prison system, the imbalances created by policy changes, and the ongoing struggle for justice and dignity. Her advocacy work highlights the need for awareness and action to protect incarcerated women.

Oct 7, 2025 • 1h 22min
453: Enes Kanter Freedom—In the Name of Freedom
In this engaging conversation, Enes Kanter Freedom, a former NBA center and passionate human rights activist, recounts his harrowing experiences growing up in Turkey and the repercussions of his outspoken criticism of authoritarianism. He shares how he transformed basketball shoes into powerful symbols of protest against government abuses. From facing exile to grappling with the NBA's pressures, Enes reflects on his moral journey and the importance of standing up for freedom, while promoting his book, In the Name of Freedom.

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Sep 30, 2025 • 1h 7min
452: Payton McNabb—Enough of This Crap!
In this engaging discussion, Peyton McNabb, a young athlete and advocate, shares her harrowing story of being knocked unconscious during a high school volleyball match by a male competitor's spike. She delves into the life-altering medical ramifications she faced, including cognitive challenges. Peyton explains how this incident ignited her advocacy for women’s sports, the legal battles that followed, and her experience testifying in front of lawmakers. Offering advice to young women, she encourages them to speak out and pursue activism for safety and fairness in sports.

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Sep 23, 2025 • 1h 33min
451: Meredith Olson—Better Education Now
Meredith Olson, President of Vela, a nonprofit championing alternative education, dives into the revolution of grassroots learning. She shares her vision of customized education that empowers parents and students, contrasting it with outdated schooling models. Vela supports over 4,200 innovative educational ventures, from microschools to homeschool co-ops. Meredith elaborates on why tailored, localized education is crucial and how Vela is transforming the educational landscape by funding passionate founders and promoting diverse learning environments.

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Sep 16, 2025 • 1h 32min
450: Elaine Culotti—California is in Real Trouble
Join Elaine Culotti, a serial entrepreneur and lipstick farmer known from Undercover Billionaire, as she boldly critiques California's deteriorating situation. She shares urgent insights on the bureaucratic red tape obstructing progress and reveals her frustration over the state’s governance under Gavin Newsom. From wildfires to political controversies, Elaine discusses her potential run for governor and the dire need for effective leadership. Along the way, she recounts her entrepreneurial journey, showcasing resilience amidst the chaos.

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Sep 9, 2025 • 1h 35min
449: Theo Von—A Troubled White
Join comedian Theo Von, known for his hilarious storytelling and as the host of This Past Weekend, as he shares side-splitting anecdotes and personal reflections. He discusses a curious bone he found on his way to the studio and opens up about manifesting dreams. Expect laughs about wrestling culture, the joy of American craftsmanship, and an exciting idea for an Antique Road Show-style show. With themes of recovery, nostalgia, and personal growth, it’s a delightful blend of humor and heartfelt moments.

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Aug 26, 2025 • 1h 16min
448: Sheree Utash—It’s Only the Best School in America
Mike Rowe chats with Sheree Utash, the President of WSU Tech, a pioneer in workforce education. They dive into how she transformed a community college into a national model for technical training. Sheree emphasizes the importance of skilled trades for America’s future and discusses her collaboration on the mikeroweWORKS curriculum. The conversation tackles finding balance in education between compliance and innovation, advocating for a dignified view of all work, and fostering curiosity among young learners through innovative educational projects.

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Aug 19, 2025 • 1h 36min
447: Tommy Mello—The Secret Sauce is the Grind
Tommy Mello, founder of A1 Garage Door Service, shares his inspiring journey from reselling Bowflex to running a $100 million home service enterprise. He discusses the importance of hustle, embracing screw-ups, and hiring based on performance. Mello reveals how fostering a culture of meritocracy can unlock both personal and professional growth, while also critiquing traditional career preparation paths. He highlights the emotional impact of home improvements and the value of commitment and curiosity in both business and life.


