

The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe
The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe
What started as a series of short mysteries for the curious mind with a short attention span has evolved into enlightening conversations for the not-so-short attention span. Whether it's a short mystery, a long conversation, or an audio book, The Way I Heard It is a veritable box of chocolates for the ears, because you never know what you're going to get.
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Dec 2, 2025 • 1h 28min
461: Danny Combs—TACT, The Future of Workforce
Danny Combs, founder of TACT, shares his inspiring journey of training neurodivergent individuals for skilled trades. He discusses the critical labor shortage and how TACT offers these gifted learners meaningful employment opportunities. Danny highlights the engaging, hands-on nature of trade work, which suits neurodivergent students perfectly. With an impressive 83-84% job placement rate, TACT is transforming lives and redefining workforce potential. He also explores the need for education reform to better support neurodiversity in all learning environments.

Nov 25, 2025 • 1h 9min
460: Ryan Fink and Ty Frackiewicz—Can AI Build My House?
In this engaging discussion, Ryan Fink, a tech visionary and co-founder of Digs, and Ty Frackiewicz, a construction expert and fellow co-founder, dive into how AI is revolutionizing homebuilding. They explore the concept of a digital twin, which helps homeowners keep a detailed record of materials and maintenance. The duo discusses AI's symbiosis with traditional roles like architects and the practical benefits it offers, such as reducing errors and improving efficiency. Their insights reveal the exciting future of integrating technology into the construction landscape.

Nov 18, 2025 • 1h 34min
459: Steven Grayhm—Sheepdog
Mike meets actor, writer, and director Steven Grayhm, whose award-winning film Sheepdog is about to hit theaters. Steven breaks down how a three-hour ride with a tow truck driver led him on a 14-year odyssey to get to the truth about veteran post-traumatic stress. It's a conversation about grit, service, sacrifice, and the complicated realities faced by the men and women who stand their post long after the uniform comes off. Steven's passion for telling their stories with honesty and respect shines through every frame of Sheepdog, and every minute of this conversation. Big thanks to our terrific sponsors AuraFrames.com/Mike Use code Mike to get $45 off their best-selling Carver Mat frame. ZipRecruiter.com/Rowe to post a job for FREE. American-Giant.com/MIKE Use code MIKE to get 20% off your order. NetSuite.com/Mike Download the CFO's Guide to AI and Machine Learning

Nov 11, 2025 • 1h 30min
458: Johnny Joey Jones—Mind Your Wake
Retired U.S. Marine Staff Sergeant Johnny Joey Jones, a former Explosive Ordnance Disposal technician who lost both legs in Afghanistan, shares powerful insights on bravery and purpose. He discusses his book, "Beyond the Badge," which highlights the untold stories of first responders. Johnny emphasizes the importance of 'minding your wake'—the impact of our small actions. He delves into the emotional journey of first responders, the nuances of courage versus bravery, and how humor helps process trauma, ultimately teaching empathy and connection.

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Nov 4, 2025 • 50min
457: Alex Epstein—Did Bill Gates Change His Mind
In this discussion, energy expert Alex Epstein delves into Bill Gates' surprising shift on climate policy and the ongoing clash between human-centric and anti-impact environmentalism. Epstein critiques Gates' approach to fossil fuels, emphasizing their importance for prosperity and resilience, while questioning the credibility of prevailing climate projections. He highlights how the AI revolution is reshaping energy needs and examines the future workforce challenges within this evolving landscape. Epstein's insights promise to provoke thought about the future of philanthropy and energy policies.

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Oct 28, 2025 • 2h 15min
456: Gavin de Becker—Forbidden Facts
Gavin de Becker, a renowned security expert and author of Forbidden Facts, dives deep into government deceit surrounding childhood vaccines. He unveils shocking revelations from leaked transcripts that show predetermined conclusions about vaccine safety. Gavin discusses the emotional and societal effects of the pandemic, including how fear shaped public behavior. He challenges accepted narratives about the RFK assassination, presenting evidence that questions the official story. This insightful conversation urges skepticism and critical thinking about powerful institutions.

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Oct 21, 2025 • 1h 52min
455: Philip Diehl—Flying Over the Hump
In this engaging conversation, Philip Diehl, former Director of the U.S. Mint and current president of U.S. Money Reserve, delves into the fascinating world of coinage. He shares the story behind the wildly successful 50 State Quarters program and offers insights into the Mint's operations and security, including Fort Knox. Diehl also discusses the ongoing significance of gold, the importance of skilled trades, and the challenges faced in redesigning currency. Plus, hear how historical elements can intersect with money and public service.

Oct 14, 2025 • 1h 21min
454: Amie Ichikawa—You Can't Bring a Vagina to a Penis Fight
Amie Ichikawa, a former inmate and founder of Woman II Woman, shares her compelling insights on the challenges faced by women in prison. She reveals the startling reality of intact men being housed in women’s facilities and the safety concerns surrounding it. Amie discusses the dehumanizing conditions within the prison system, the imbalances created by policy changes, and the ongoing struggle for justice and dignity. Her advocacy work highlights the need for awareness and action to protect incarcerated women.

Oct 7, 2025 • 1h 22min
453: Enes Kanter Freedom—In the Name of Freedom
In this engaging conversation, Enes Kanter Freedom, a former NBA center and passionate human rights activist, recounts his harrowing experiences growing up in Turkey and the repercussions of his outspoken criticism of authoritarianism. He shares how he transformed basketball shoes into powerful symbols of protest against government abuses. From facing exile to grappling with the NBA's pressures, Enes reflects on his moral journey and the importance of standing up for freedom, while promoting his book, In the Name of Freedom.

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Sep 30, 2025 • 1h 7min
452: Payton McNabb—Enough of This Crap!
In this engaging discussion, Peyton McNabb, a young athlete and advocate, shares her harrowing story of being knocked unconscious during a high school volleyball match by a male competitor's spike. She delves into the life-altering medical ramifications she faced, including cognitive challenges. Peyton explains how this incident ignited her advocacy for women’s sports, the legal battles that followed, and her experience testifying in front of lawmakers. Offering advice to young women, she encourages them to speak out and pursue activism for safety and fairness in sports.


