The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe 462: Del Bigtree—An Inconvenient Study
Dec 9, 2025
Del Bigtree, a prominent filmmaker and founder of The HighWire, dives into the controversies surrounding vaccine safety and his groundbreaking documentary, 'An Inconvenient Study.' He shares details about a pivotal childhood vaccinated vs. unvaccinated study and reveals shocking, often hidden findings. Del discusses the challenges of scrutinizing vaccine science, the growth of public skepticism, and the implications of his research. He emphasizes the need for transparency in health studies while maintaining a pro-choice stance on vaccination.
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Curiosity, Humility, Courage Lost
- Mike Rowe and Del argue science and journalism require curiosity, humility, and courage; when questioning is banned, institutions become dogmatic.
- They connect the erosion of trust to a broader crisis where experts refuse open debate.
Unexpected Confession At Dinner
- Del Bigtree recounts meeting Dr. Mark Zervos at Henry Ford who agreed the proper vaccinated vs unvaccinated study had never been done.
- Zervos admitted privately that vaccines lacked the definitive safety science, which launched the investigation that became the film.
Safety Was Proven By Antibodies, Not Outcomes
- Del explains that the gold standard for safety is a double-blind placebo trial, which childhood vaccines largely never underwent.
- He argues current approval often relied on antibody response rather than long-term all-cause outcomes.
