The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe 458: Johnny Joey Jones—Mind Your Wake
Nov 11, 2025
Retired U.S. Marine Staff Sergeant Johnny Joey Jones, a former Explosive Ordnance Disposal technician who lost both legs in Afghanistan, shares powerful insights on bravery and purpose. He discusses his book, "Beyond the Badge," which highlights the untold stories of first responders. Johnny emphasizes the importance of 'minding your wake'—the impact of our small actions. He delves into the emotional journey of first responders, the nuances of courage versus bravery, and how humor helps process trauma, ultimately teaching empathy and connection.
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Mind Your Wake
- Johnny Joey Jones says "Mind your wake" to remind you every action creates ripples that affect others beyond your sight.
- Small choices shape strangers' lives and become invisible but real consequences across time and place.
Let The Story Lead
- Let the subject tell the story and get out of the way when you narrate other people's lives.
- Use profile-driven narrative to reveal broader truths through concrete personal detail.
Choosing Stairs Over Convenience
- Johnny Joey Jones describes hiking five flights of stairs rather than wait for a broken elevator to keep his mission and dignity intact.
- He frames short-term discomfort as a tradeoff for lasting stories and purpose.
