
The Tim Ferriss Show #835: Ben Patrick (KneesOverToesGuy) — 20-Minute Workouts That Produce Wild Results, From Chronic Knee Pain to Dunking Basketballs, Lessons from Charles Poliquin, Bulletproofing the Lower Body, and More
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Nov 12, 2025 Joining the conversation is Ben Patrick, the founder of Athletic Truth Group and renowned as the 'Knees Over Toes Guy.' He shares his inspiring journey from chronic knee pain to achieving a 42-inch vertical leap. Ben discusses innovative techniques like backward sled drags and full-range squats that revolutionize joint health. He emphasizes the importance of minimalistic training, sustainability, and practical muscle activation for all ages. Dive into Ben's insights on rebuilding strength, flexibility, and integrity in fitness.
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From Debilitating Knees To Sled Rehab
- Ben had chronic knee pain from age 12, multiple surgeries, and long immobilization that left him unable to control stairs pain-free.
- Discovering Charles Poliquin's backward sled work led him to get off painkillers within a week and start rebuilding strength.
Rehab With Backward Sleds And Step-Downs
- Use backward sled pulls or walking backwards to load the knee safely and build strength with circulation and low pain.
- Progress with pain-free step-downs on a slant board or elevated heel, using high repetitions before advancing.
Coax Full Range Squats Safely
- Train deep, full-range squats progressively using heel elevation and a weight held in front as counterbalance.
- Aim to hold a kettlebell and descend pain-free to build usable everyday strength.
















