130. Mark Epstein, MD (Buddhist psychiatrist) – I, Me, Mine
Jan 13, 2018
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Psychotherapist and author, Mark Epstein, MD, discusses the impact of the unchecked ego on our lives, combining insights from Buddhism and psychotherapy. They explore Buddhist teachings on unsatisfactoriness and clinging, the importance of developing a healthy ego and self-esteem, the confusion surrounding the concept of self in Buddhism, and the power of letting go of fear. They also touch on the consciousness of octopuses, the realities of meditation and mindfulness, and the drawbacks of putting too much emphasis on mindfulness in psychotherapy.
Integrating Buddhist teachings and psychotherapy helps individuals confront their egos and live with more awareness and control over their minds.
A Mediterranean diet, rich in plant-based foods and brain-healthy nutrients, has been shown to effectively treat depression and dementia.
Deep dives
The Power of Mindfulness and Psychoanalysis in Overcoming the Ego
Psychotherapist and author Mark Epstein discusses the importance of integrating both Buddhist teachings and psychotherapy to help individuals live with their egos. Buddhism teaches that life is full of unsatisfactoriness caused by clinging to the ego, while psychotherapy explores the impact of early development and the formation of self-worth. Epstein highlights the need for a decent ego, exerting control over the mind, and confronting the ego. He emphasizes that meditation is not a cure-all and that it is essential to apply the insights gained from meditation practice to daily life.
The Role of Diet in Mental Health
Nutritional psychiatrist Drew Ramsey highlights the connection between what we eat and our mental health. He explains that a Mediterranean diet, rich in plant-based foods, nuts, seeds, whole grains, seafood, and herbs, has been shown to effectively treat depression and dementia. Ramsey encourages focusing on nutrients that support brain health and emphasizes the need to prioritize the brain when making dietary choices. He also emphasizes the importance of safe spaces for deep thinking, highlighting the default mode network in the brain, which activates during unstructured time and facilitates original thinking and self-reflection.
The Power of Unstructured Time and Reflection
Journalist Manoush Zomorodi discusses the benefits of unstructured time for deep thinking and problem-solving. She explains that allowing the brain to wander activates the default mode network, leading to original and productive thinking. During this time, individuals engage in autobiographical planning, reflecting on their lives and setting goals. Zomorodi highlights the risk of being constantly distracted or reactive, preventing deeper thinking about personal growth and decision-making. She encourages creating space for uninterrupted thought to foster personal development and self-reflection.
Integration of Buddhist and Psychoanalytic Approaches to Self-Reflection
The podcasts explore the integration of Buddhist teachings, mindfulness practices, and psychoanalytic approaches in understanding oneself better. It emphasizes the significance of unstructured time, deep thinking, and self-reflection in both meditation and daily life. The episodes identify the need for a balanced ego, control over the mind, and confronting ego-driven aspects of ourselves as essential for personal growth. Additionally, they highlight the role of diet and brain health in supporting mental well-being.
All through the day… I, me mine, I me mine, I me mine…
That George Harrison song on the Beatles’ last album pretty much sums it up. They recorded it in 1970, and 47 years later, our egos seem to be running just as rampant as ever. While the unchecked ego might be popular at parties, it can get us into all kinds of trouble. This is not breaking news. Over 2000 years ago an Indian prince sat under a tree and thought about the problem of self. His insights and solutions became what we now call Buddhism. And a century ago in Vienna, Sigmund Freud came at the same issue from a somewhat different angle, giving us psychotherapy.
Our guest today, Mark Epstein, MD, is a psychotherapist and author who combines both approaches to help his patients and readers live with their demanding egos. His new book is Advice Not Given: A Guide to Getting Over Yourself.
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