The One Inside: An Internal Family Systems (IFS) podcast

We're All Multiples: Bridging IFS and the Plural Community with Dick Schwartz and Tiffany "Ocean" Morgan

May 3, 2025
Join Richard "Dick" Schwartz, founder of the Internal Family Systems model, and Tiffany "Ocean" Morgan, a certified IFS therapist with lived experience of OSDD, as they bridge the gap between IFS and the plural community. They discuss the nuances between dissociative identity parts and IFS parts, emphasizing respect and understanding in therapy. Trust, communication, and honoring every part are key to healing. Their heartfelt conversation sheds light on the complexities of identity and the importance of inclusive language in mental health.
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DI Parts vs IFS Parts

  • Dissociative Identity (DI) parts are distinct identities like boats with their own crews, different from IFS parts often viewed as roles.
  • DI parts can themselves contain IFS-type parts, showing a fractal-like internal structure within plural systems.
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IFS and DID Parts Parallels

  • Dick Schwartz sees no fundamental difference between DI parts and IFS parts; differences arise mainly from trauma-induced dissociative barriers.
  • He emphasizes that parts in DID are full personalities, not merely roles, and are often more disconnected due to trauma.
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Parts Roles Are Protective, Not Fixed

  • Manager, firefighter, and exile are roles parts adopt for protection, not fixed identities.
  • When parts are freed from these roles, they become more whole and complex personalities.
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