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The essence of product management | Christian Idiodi (SVPG)

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Dec 21, 2023

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Christian Idiodi

Christian Idiodi, a partner at Silicon Valley Product Group with a rich background in product leadership, sheds light on the challenges facing product managers. He discusses the negative perceptions surrounding the role and how to overcome them. Christian emphasizes the importance of understanding customer needs and the critical role of reference customers in product success. He also shares insights into high-volume hiring processes and the significance of effective coaching in building trust and fostering collaboration within teams.

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Four Attributes of Product Management

A product manager’s job revolves around four key attributes: value, usability, viability, and feasibility.
PMs primarily drive value (will people use/buy it?) and viability (does it work for our business?).

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Prioritize Value

New PMs often fail by overlooking value, focusing on roadmaps instead of customer needs.
Prioritize understanding if a product is worth building before focusing on execution.

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Reference Customers

Find 6-8 reference customers for B2B and 15-25 for B2C to validate product-market fit.
Work closely with them, iterating until they love the product enough to recommend it.

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Christian Idiodi is a partner at Silicon Valley Product Group. After a long product career and founding multiple companies, Christian now spends his time working closely with product leaders at companies big and small to implement and improve their discipline of product management. In today’s episode, we discuss:

• Why there’s often a negative perception of product managers, and how we can fix this

• The four attributes of a product manager’s job: value, usability, viability, and feasibility

• The power of finding reference customers

• How Christian developed a process for high-volume hiring to help companies like McDonald’s and Starbucks

• Tactical tips for coaching, building relationships, and building trust as a leader

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Find the full transcript at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/the-essence-of-product-management

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Where to find Christian Idiodi:

• X: https://twitter.com/CIdiodi

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cidiodi/

• Website: https://www.svpg.com/

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Where to find Lenny:

• Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com

• X: https://twitter.com/lennysan

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/

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In this episode, we cover:

(00:00) Christian’s background

(03:56) The negative perception of product managers

(07:58) How to become a PM people want to work with

(11:30) The definition of a product manager

(14:46) Where new PMs fail

(16:59) Reference customers: what they are and why they are so important

(24:05) A quick summary of how to build a product that people want and love

(26:44) How to determine product-market fit

(29:54) The benefits of this approach

(34:11) Real examples of using reference customers

(40:06) Doing things that don’t scale

(48:40) How to get better at coaching and build trust with leaders

(55:53) The fastest way to build trust

(01:00:01) What to do in the absence of good coaching

(01:02:51) How to get into product management

(01:04:16) The pitfalls of early promotions

(01:11:11) How to train someone for a promotion before giving the promotion

(01:13:30) How to find a good coach

(01:14:40) Christian’s product work in Africa

(01:21:22) The importance of passion and empathy in product work

(01:22:54) Lightning round

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Referenced:

• Marty Cagan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cagan/

• The nature of product | Marty Cagan, Silicon Valley Product Group: https://www.lennyspodcast.com/the-nature-of-product-marty-cagan-silicon-valley-product-group/

• Silicon Valley Product Group: https://www.svpg.com/

• Enhanced Product Discovery by SVPG Partner Christian Idiodi at Lean Product Meetup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQKaFEqhiqc

• Geoffrey Moore’s technology adoption curve: https://fourweekmba.com/technology-adoption-curve/

• Stripe: https://stripe.com/

• Building a culture of excellence | David Singleton (CTO of Stripe): https://www.lennyspodcast.com/building-a-culture-of-excellence-david-singleton-cto-of-stripe/

• Building beautiful products with Stripe’s Head of Design | Katie Dill (Stripe, Airbnb, Lyft): https://www.lennyspodcast.com/building-beautiful-products-with-stripes-head-of-design-katie-dill-stripe-airbnb-lyft/

• Rippling: https://www.rippling.com/

• Snagajob: https://www.snagajob.com/

• Howard Schultz on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/howardschultz/

• Tesla portable charger: https://shop.tesla.com/product/mobile-connector

• Innovate Africa Foundation: https://www.innovateafrica.io/about/

• Inspire Africa Conference: https://www.inspireafricaconference.com/

• Inspired: How to Create Tech Products Customers Love: https://www.svpg.com/books/inspired-how-to-create-tech-products-customers-love-2nd-edition/

• Empowered: Ordinary People, Extraordinary Products: https://www.svpg.com/books/empowered-ordinary-people-extraordinary-products/

• Transformed: Moving to the Product Operating Model: https://www.svpg.com/books/transformed-moving-to-the-product-operating-model/

• Succession on HBO: https://www.hbo.com/succession

• Billions on Showtime: https://www.sho.com/billions

• Real sports app: https://www.realapp.link/

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