Part 2: What About Our Culture is Holding Us Back? | An Interview with Ryan Gottfredson
Nov 30, 2024
Ryan Gottfredson, a leadership development author and professor, discusses the cultural factors that hinder personal growth and effective leadership. He emphasizes the importance of open communication and establishing psychological safety in teams. The role of ego in leadership is explored, showcasing how it can motivate or hinder growth. Ryan advocates for vulnerability and self-awareness among leaders and promotes gardener-minded leadership, fostering nurturing environments that support learning and development.
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Intro
00:00 • 2min
Fostering Psychological Safety in Leadership
01:52 • 15min
Navigating the Role of Ego in Leadership
16:47 • 6min
The Power of Vulnerability in Leadership
22:21 • 17min
Fostering a Culture of Learning in Leadership
39:10 • 2min
Encouraging Growth Through Gardener-Minded Leadership
41:17 • 2min

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Ryan Gottfredson, Ph.D. is a cutting-edge leadership development author, researcher, and consultant. He helps organizations vertically develop their leaders primarily through a focus on mindsets. Ryan is the Wall Street Journal and USA Today best-selling author of Success Mindsets: The Key to Unlocking Greater Success in Your Life, Work, & Leadership and The Elevated Leader: Leveling Up Your Leadership Through Vertical Development. He is also a leadership professor at the College of Business and Economics at California State University-Fullerton.
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Highlights
This is the second of a two-part podcast conversation on effective church leadership. The discussion continues with a reflection on the value of open communication and the need for leaders to encourage their team members to express their thoughts and feelings. Ryan emphasizes the significance of establishing a culture where individuals feel safe to share their vulnerabilities, which can lead to deeper connections and trust within a group.
The conversation delves into the challenges leaders face when balancing the need to cover prescribed topics versus allowing for authentic, vulnerable discussions that may arise organically. Ryan suggests that leaders should prioritize creating conditions conducive to growth rather than merely focusing on outcomes. He explains the concept of "gardener-minded leadership," where leaders cultivate an environment that fosters development and flourishing among their team members.
Kurt and Ryan next consider the role of ego in leadership. Ryan defines ego as the part of ourselves that prioritizes self-preservation over value creation for others. He highlights the importance of self-awareness and the need for leaders to confront their insecurities and limiting beliefs to elevate their leadership effectiveness. The episode also touches on the necessity of vulnerability in leadership, illustrating how it can lead to more meaningful relationships and a stronger sense of community.
Listeners are encouraged to reflect on their leadership styles, consider how they can create a more supportive environment, and recognize the importance of healing their relationship with themselves to become more effective leaders. The episode concludes with practical suggestions for leaders, including the importance of developing a clear purpose and fostering a culture of learning and openness. Overall, this episode serves as a valuable resource for leaders seeking to enhance their effectiveness and create a thriving community within their organizations.
02:09 - Encouraging Open Communication
02:39 - Establishing Psychological Safety
03:37 - Balancing Doctrine and Values
04:37 - Teaching Dilemmas in Church Settings
05:43 - Creating a Psychologically Safe Culture
06:36 - The Gardener Mindset in Leadership
07:16 - Continuous Improvement in Leadership
08:51 - The Challenge of Self-Preservation
11:15 - The Human Element in Leadership
11:58 - The Role of Ego in Leadership
20:18 - Redefining Ego for Value Creation
22:21 - The Importance of Vulnerability
26:30 - The Cost of Self-Preservation
29:37 - Healing Relationships for Better Leadership