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The Real Future of AI with George Hotz

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May 7, 2025

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George Hotz

George Hotz, a renowned hacker and AI founder, shares his insights on the evolving landscape of artificial intelligence. He discusses how machines may shift economic value, emphasizing that humans will still hold importance in this new world. Topics include the critique of intellectual property in light of AI abundance, the need for high-skilled immigration to drive growth, and innovative approaches to hiring that prioritize skills over credentials. Hotz also warns against the societal impacts of digital addiction and highlights the importance of adapting to technology’s advancements.

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AI Progress Is a Smooth Trend

AI progress is a smooth economic competition trend, not a sudden singularity event.
Machines replacing humans economically started decades ago and will keep evolving steadily.

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Comparative Advantage Preserves Humans

Human labor won't disappear due to comparative advantage despite machines being more efficient.
Humans will retain economic roles where they hold a comparative edge over machines.

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Humans and Machines Work Together

Humans and machines will have a symbiotic relationship rather than humans being replaced.
Machines work for humans and humans use machines to interact and produce value with others.

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What happens when machines become more economically valuable than humans?

This episode dives into the real future of AI—not a sudden singularity, but a steady shift that’s redefining how we work, govern, and live. Amanda is joined by George Hotz to explore why humans still matter in an AI-driven world, how value creation—not credentials—will shape the future, and what happens when intellectual property, the U.S. dollar, and even our attention become obsolete.

Together, they challenge economic protectionism, advocate for high-skilled immigration, and explore emerging ideas like gold-backed digital currency and AI-enhanced hiring. From digital addiction to deregulation, this episode connects the dots between technology and the systems it’s disrupting.

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 AI Spectrum: Understanding Perspectives

01:33 The Economic Competition of Machines

03:05 The Myth of the Singularity

05:04 Comparative Advantage and Human Value

08:22 Humans and Machines: A Symbiotic Relationship

10:01 Quality of Life in an AI World

11:12 Aligning Economically with AI's Rise

14:32 Intellectual Property and AI Abundance

17:36 AI Alignment: Capability vs. Intent

19:35 The Role of Government in AI Development

22:10 Global Dynamics: East vs. West in Technology