In this conversation we discuss the reality that life can be hard and there is no cure for the human condition: But Kieran believes philosophy can help. In this chat he offers us a map for navigating rough terrain, from personal trauma to injustice along with navigating grief and the overall mission of living with one another. This was truly a great conversation about how the pragmatics of productivity share the common goals of philosophy which is living a good life not only for ourselves but alongside others.