Kieran Setia: I think that this has been a very interesting conversation and it's an ongoing one for sure. We have not hit all of the different threads and themes that are in the book, which is great. It just means they can dig deeper into what we already talked about and then also those other things that we didn't even mention. And again, if you're surprised by a philosophy book showing up in a productivity podcast, you shouldn't be Philosophy and living well doesn't tie directly to your end goal.

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