
The Marketing Companion We must disrupt marketing now
Feb 17, 2025
Douglas Burdett, a seasoned podcast host known for The Marketing Book Podcast, reunites from retirement with Mark Schaefer to discuss his latest book, "Audacious." They highlight the need for audacity over mere competence in a world dominated by AI, insisting that marketers must unleash their creativity. Topics range from the vitality of user-generated content to the emotional power of awe in marketing. Mark emphasizes the importance of storytelling, even in B2B spaces, and advocates for empowering communities and employees to advocate authentically.
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Audacity Beats Mere Competence
- Competence is now table stakes and is easily ignored in an AI-saturated world.
- Mark Schaefer argues audacity — daring human creativity — is the new currency of attention.
AI Is Eating The Content Ecosystem
- Over half of web content is now AI-generated and AI learns from that content, raising existential questions for marketers.
- Schaefer warns marketers must rethink their role because our voice is the glue that holds AI together.
Design For Word-Of-Mouth
- Make marketing so interesting and unmissable that people eagerly talk about it.
- Focus on creating content people believe and will spread, because people trust strangers more than ads.








