In this engaging discussion, Mike Zeller, a neuro-rewiring expert, shares his transformative journey with MDMA and psilocybin-assisted therapy. He highlights how these psychedelics can rewire the nervous system, resolve trauma, and integrate fragmented parts of the self. Mike delves into his wife's remarkable healing from treatment-resistant depression and the significance of emotional release for mental well-being. The conversation challenges traditional views on therapy, advocating for holistic approaches to achieve personal growth and emotional sovereignty.
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Wife's Trauma Journey
Mike Zeller shares his wife's battle with treatment-resistant depression and complex PTSD triggered by pregnancy and childhood trauma.
Her intense emotional struggles profoundly affected their family life and motivated Mike's exploration into trauma healing.
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Trauma Freezes the Nervous System
Unprocessed emotions become frozen in the body, causing nervous system rigidity and chronic health issues.
This persistent fight-flight-freeze state limits brain capacity to experience love, joy, and presence.
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Integrate Conflicting Inner Parts
Give compassionate space to conflicting internal parts to hear their fears and needs.
Integration happens when each part feels seen and has a voice, ending internal turmoil.
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In this book, Dr. Bessel van der Kolk uses recent scientific advances to show how trauma reshapes both the body and brain, compromising sufferers’ capacities for pleasure, engagement, self-control, and trust. He explores various treatments, including neurofeedback, meditation, sports, drama, and yoga, which activate the brain’s natural neuroplasticity to aid in recovery. The book emphasizes the power of relationships in both causing and healing trauma and offers hope through descriptions of novel approaches to treatment. It is based on Dr. van der Kolk’s own research and that of other leading specialists in the field[1][2][5].
Power Vs. Force
The Hidden Determinants of Human Behavior
David R. Hawkins
In 'Power vs. Force,' David R. Hawkins explores the nature of true power and force, arguing that power is whole, positive, and wholesome, while force is partial, selfish, and negative. The book introduces a hierarchical scale of consciousness, ranging from 1 to 1000, where levels below 200 are considered negative and those above 200 are positive. Hawkins uses concepts from particle physics, nonlinear dynamics, and chaos theory, as well as Applied Kinesiology, to support his research. The book is divided into three parts, discussing the process of achieving one’s ultimate potential, the distinction between power and force in various aspects of life, and the evolution of human consciousness. It emphasizes the importance of integrity, understanding, and compassion in enhancing one’s level of consciousness and leading a more fulfilling life[1][3][4].
Healing Trauma
Peter A. Levine
In "Healing Trauma," Peter A. Levine explores the body's natural capacity to heal from traumatic experiences. He challenges traditional approaches to trauma therapy, emphasizing the importance of somatic experiencing—a method that focuses on releasing trapped energy and emotions in the body. Levine's work highlights the impact of trauma on the nervous system and the need for gentle, self-regulating techniques to facilitate healing. The book provides practical tools and exercises to help individuals process and release trauma, promoting a sense of safety and empowerment. Ultimately, "Healing Trauma" offers a compassionate and effective path toward recovery and resilience.
Molecules of Emotion
Dr. Candice Pert
Letting Go
David Hawkins
In this episode, Mark Groves invites neuro-rewiring expert Mike Zeller to unpack their powerful, MDMA and psilocybin-assisted Internal Family Systems session—recorded just one day after Mark’s own transformative experience. They dive into the real impact of psychedelic-assisted therapy in rewiring the nervous system, resolving trauma, and integrating fragmented parts of the self. Through raw storytelling, Mike shares his wife's extraordinary healing from treatment-resistant depression and complex PTSD, while Mark vulnerably reflects on reclaiming his voice, confronting suppressed emotions, and shedding years of internal chaos. This isn’t just a conversation—it’s a radical invitation to rethink healing, reclaim emotional sovereignty, and access your deepest power with clarity and compassion.
Mike Zeller uses a unique combination of neuroscience, NLP, biohacking, somatic healing, flow state psychology, & psychedelics (when appropriate) to bring a rapid and lasting rewiring of your subconscious and nervous system that goes far deeper than typical mindset experts.
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