The Tim Ferriss Show

#687: Justin Gary — Taking the Path Less Traveled, The Phenomenon of “Magic: The Gathering,” How Analytical People Can Become “Creative” People, Finding the Third Right Answer, and How to Escape Your Need for Control

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Aug 16, 2023
Justin Gary, an award-winning game designer and CEO of Stone Blade Entertainment, shares his journey from Magic: The Gathering champion to thriving entrepreneur. He discusses the transformative power of embracing uncertainty and the importance of teamwork over individualism. Gary also delves into the creative processes behind game design, emphasizing the role of iterative testing and community support in success. His stories highlight the balance between artistic integrity and financial realities in the gaming industry, making for an insightful and engaging conversation.
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ANECDOTE

Magic: The Gathering Origins

  • Justin Gary discovered Magic: The Gathering while playing competitive laser tag.
  • He won the US National Championship at 17, leading to a career playing Magic professionally.
ANECDOTE

Debate Experience

  • Justin Gary participated in Lincoln-Douglas debates, arguing assigned topics before a judge.
  • He enjoyed parliamentary debate, where any topic could be spontaneously discussed.
INSIGHT

Professional Magic Player

  • Playing Magic: The Gathering professionally involved traveling to tournaments globally with prize money.
  • While substantial at the time, winnings were not exorbitant, but enough to pay for college.
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