
The One Inside: An Internal Family Systems (IFS) podcast Inside IFS with Richard Schwartz and Jeanne Catanzaro
Jan 8, 2026
In this insightful conversation, Richard Schwartz, the developer of the Internal Family Systems model, and Jeanne Catanzaro, Vice President of the IFS Institute, share their journey through leadership and personal growth. They discuss Jeanne's rise in public speaking and the dynamics of co-teaching, emphasizing collaboration and humility. The pair reflect on future plans, navigating aging, and how to bring IFS to a wider audience safely while balancing their home life and leisure activities. Their candid humor and warmth reveal the deep care behind their work.
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From Private Therapist To Public Speaker
- Jeanne went from being terrified of public speaking to presenting to hundreds and even at Oxford.
- Richard watched her grow into her own visibility and praised her earned accolades.
IFS Is Bigger Than One Leader
- Richard believes IFS will continue beyond any single leader because the community is strong.
- He expects the Institute and model to keep "cooking along" after his departure.
Camino Workshop Blends Walking And IFS
- Jeanne and Richard co-led a Camino workshop combining morning IFS demos with long afternoon walks.
- Participants used silent walking and orange lanyards to signal openness to conversation.



