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 EconTalk Jerry Muller on the Tyranny of Metrics
 Apr 16, 2018 
 Jerry Muller, historian and author of Catholic University, discusses the negative impacts of focusing on measurable outcomes in public policy and management. The conversation covers the dangers of metric fixation in education, the challenges of balancing metrics in evaluating success, and the unintended consequences of using metrics and incentives in organizations. 
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 Intro 
 00:00 • 4min 
 The Role of Judgment versus Metrics in Organizational Decision-Making 
 03:39 • 2min 
 The Impact of Metric Fixation in Education 
 06:06 • 19min 
 Navigating the Challenges of Metrics in Evaluating Success 
 25:22 • 3min 
 Unintended Negative Consequences of Metrics and Incentives in Organizations 
 28:47 • 6min 
 Discussion on surgical report cards and flight schedules 
 35:02 • 2min 
 The Pitfalls of Overreliance on Metrics 
 36:57 • 28min 
