How To! How To Live With Chronic Pain
Jun 10, 2025
Toni Bernhard, a former law professor and author of 'How to Be Sick', joins Mavi, a long-time multiple sclerosis patient, to discuss living with chronic pain. They delve into the stigma surrounding chronic conditions and the emotional toll they take. Toni shares insights on mindfulness and self-compassion, emphasizing their importance in managing pain. Listeners learn about finding peace amid challenges and the significance of a supportive community. The conversation offers both validation and practical guidance for navigating the complexities of chronic illness.
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MS Diagnosis And Grieving Losses
- Mavi described sudden numbness in her feet and arm that led to an MS diagnosis after months of testing.
- She said MS has been a continual grieving process as she loses abilities over time.
Nightly Muscle Spasms And Treatments Tried
- Mavi explained violent nightly muscle spasms from the waist down that wake her whenever she moves.
- She described trying multiple medications, physical therapy, and acupuncture without a definitive fix yet.
Pain Has Three Components
- Toni Bernhard separates physical sensation, emotional reaction, and the stories we tell about pain.
- She argues two components originate in the mind, so managing mental responses helps with physical discomfort.
