Donald Robertson, a cognitive behavioral psychotherapist and author, dives deep into the contrasts between Stoicism and modern interpretations like 'broicism.' He critiques simplistic views that equate Stoicism with emotional suppression, advocating for a more empathetic approach. The conversation reveals how Marcus Aurelius's personal journey offers profound insights on managing anger and vulnerability. They also discuss the often-overlooked influence of women in Stoic philosophy, particularly Aurelius's mother, illustrating the timeless relevance of these ancient teachings.