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Crumbl: Jason McGowan

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Aug 11, 2025
Jason McGowan, co-founder of Crumbl, transformed a cookie business into a successful restaurant chain by leveraging his tech background. He shares insights on A/B testing recipes and the power of viral marketing, with weekly flavor launches like bubblegum and Almost Everything Bagel captivating customers. Crumbl now boasts over 1,000 locations and a massive social media following, outpacing major brands. McGowan discusses the challenges of scaling rapidly and the importance of fostering customer relationships while maintaining quality in fast expansion.
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ANECDOTE

Tech Skills Shaped A Food Startup

  • Jason learned growth, UX, and experimentation while building social products in Provo and the Bay Area.
  • He applied those analytical habits to product tweaks, marketing, and user behaviors at Crumbl.
ANECDOTE

Built Delivery Tech Before Scale

  • Jason McGowan prioritized building routing and delivery tech before scaling stores or menus.
  • He treated cookies as a vehicle to validate logistics and home delivery demand early on.
INSIGHT

Taste-Tested With A/B Experiments

  • Jason McGowan ran controlled taste tests swapping single ingredients to optimize the cookie recipe.
  • He asked strangers and family to choose between variants and used that data to make decisions.
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