
The Liz Moody Podcast Stanford Psychologist: Anyone Can Crave Exercise—Here's How
Jan 7, 2026
In this engaging discussion, Dr. Kelly McGonigal, a Stanford psychologist, author of The Joy of Movement, and expert on the psychology of exercise, reveals that anyone can learn to crave movement. She emphasizes the importance of finding joy in exercise rather than relying on motivation alone. Kelly discusses how social connections, meaningful challenges, and even simple changes in perspective can enhance our relationship with movement. She also shares insights on the impact of regular activity on dopamine levels and overall well-being.
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Motivate With Meaning, Not Appearance
- Motivations tied to stress relief, social connection, solitude, or meaningful challenge make exercise stick more than appearance or weight goals.
- Kelly McGonigal argues pick activities that feel like breaks, community, or growth to sustain movement.
Dose For Mental-Health Benefits
- For antidepressant-level benefits, aim for ~30 minutes of moderate activity three times per week.
- Activities can include walking, yoga, swimming, or active play with kids or pets.
Make Workouts Pleasant In The Moment
- Use in-the-moment levers like music, company, or inspiring places to make a workout tolerable or enjoyable.
- Celebrate movement afterward but avoid manipulative rewards that reinforce a non-moving identity.






