
Stanford Psychologist: Anyone Can Crave Exercise—Here's How
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I used to dread doing any type of workout. I remember thinking, maybe I’m just naturally more lazy. But it turns out, we’re all wired for it—I was just approaching it all wrong. Today’s episode is going to turn you into the type of person who gets excited to move.
I’m thrilled to share this conversation with Dr. Kelly McGonigal, a Stanford professor, bestselling author, and someone who has spent decades studying the psychology and neuroscience of movement. Her work was pivotal in changing my relationship with working out.
This episode isn’t about forcing yourself to work out harder. It’s about why we’ve been thinking about movement all wrong—and how to finally make it work with your brain instead of against it.
🎧 What you’ll learn:
- Why motivation is the wrong entry point for movement
- What actually works to crave working out
- The wild impact movement has on preserving our dopamine levels as they decline with age
- How long it takes to enjoy working out
- The step counts of people who were depressed versus the step counts of people who felt full of meaning and purpose
- And so much more
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If you liked this episode, check out this one:
The Science Of Putting Together a Workout Routine To Hit YOUR Goals
For more from Kelly McGonigal:
- Instagram @kellymariemcgonigal
- Website: www.kellymcgonigal.com
- Book: The Joy of Movement: How exercise helps us find happiness, hope, connection, and courage
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