

More Happier: Gretchen on Totally Booked with Zibby Owens
Jun 14, 2025
Zibby Owens, a passionate podcast host and bookstore owner, joins the conversation to discuss Gretchen Rubin's new book, Secrets of Adulthood. They explore the intricacies of adulthood through humor and introspection, sharing personal insights and challenges in crafting meaningful aphorisms. The duo navigates the empty nest experience, reflecting on emotional transitions and newfound freedoms, while also touching on the balance between public recognition and personal expectations. It's a delightful mix of wisdom, laughter, and a love for reading!
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The Power of Aphorisms
- Writing aphorisms helps distill complex thoughts into clear, brief insights.
- Short, memorable sayings provoke reflection and personal interpretation.
Avoid Unnecessary Organizing
- Avoid spending time organizing things you never use or need.
- Question if effort spent on perfection is necessary or productive.
Mail Clutter Story
- Gretchen helped her sister with piles of unopened mail and realized she was avoiding the task unnecessarily.
- Sometimes people prepare elaborate systems for things they rarely use or need.