

On the Measurement of Leadership, with host Dr Aiden M. A. Thornton
Feb 13, 2025
In this engaging discussion, Dr. Matt Barney, an award-winning organizational psychologist and founder of TruMind.ai, teams up with Professor John Antonakis from the University of Lausanne. They delve into the complexities of measuring leadership, debunking common biases that cloud perception. Dr. Barney reveals how AI innovations are revolutionizing leadership assessments, while Antonakis emphasizes the critical role of charisma. The conversation further explores the fusion of mental intelligence and emotional insights in redefining leadership effectiveness.
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Measuring Perceptions vs. Behavior
- Perceptions of leader behavior are often measured, not actual behavior.
- These perceptions are influenced by biases, values, and expectations.
Measuring Ethical Behavior
- Matt Barney used transcripts of famous and infamous leaders' speeches to measure ethical behavior.
- He found that business leaders scored higher than government leaders.
Persuasion through Prose
- Persuade others with the power of your words, not with incentives or authority.
- True leadership involves voluntary following, inspired by a shared vision.