In this engaging discussion, Dr. Matt Barney, an award-winning organizational psychologist and founder of TruMind.ai, teams up with Professor John Antonakis from the University of Lausanne. They delve into the complexities of measuring leadership, debunking common biases that cloud perception. Dr. Barney reveals how AI innovations are revolutionizing leadership assessments, while Antonakis emphasizes the critical role of charisma. The conversation further explores the fusion of mental intelligence and emotional insights in redefining leadership effectiveness.