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#116 – Exploring Ideas and Exploiting the Good Ones with Justin Mares of Kettle and Fire

Sep 9, 2019
Justin Mares, founder of Kettle and Fire and Perfect Keto, shares his journey of scaling two health food companies to over $10 million each. He emphasizes the importance of avoiding a scarcity mentality and offers insight on alleviating market risk through smoke testing. Justin discusses the balance between product innovation and effective marketing, and how to navigate the food startup landscape with strategic execution. He also reveals the significance of genuine interests and experimentation in entrepreneurial success.
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Quick takeaways

  • Avoiding a scarcity mindset is essential for entrepreneurs to foster creativity and explore ideas without limitations.
  • Utilizing smoke tests to validate business concepts allows entrepreneurs to mitigate risk and gauge market interest efficiently.

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The Importance of Distribution Innovation

Successful startup founders must balance product development with marketing strategies to achieve explosive growth. Many entrepreneurs tend to focus heavily on creating their product, often to the detriment of effective marketing. It is critical to understand that strong distribution innovation can sometimes be even more important than having the perfect product. The podcast emphasizes this concept by introducing the bullseye framework, which encourages founders to identify and focus on one or two primary marketing channels that can generate traction.

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