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Feb 15, 2022 • 51min

Episode 38: Understanding Emotional Intelligence with Kedren Crosby

Emotions are information that help us learn something about ourselves – what is going on inside of us, and what we feel really matters. ‘Emotional Intelligence’ is thrown around a lot but few people know what it means or why it really matters in the workplace. In today’s episode, Sara sits down with Kedren Crosby, President at Work Wisdom and co-host of The Behaviorist podcast, to talk about Emotional Intelligence. Kedren’s focus is on conflict resolution, burnout, work-life integration, authentic leadership, organizational culture, conflict management, all with a bent toward positive psychology and positive emotional behavior. Kedren holds a Master's degree in Policy Science from The University of Maryland Baltimore County, graduate-level certificates in Nonprofit Studies from The Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore, Conflict Resolution at Notre Dame, and has completed graduate coursework in Organizational Behavior at Harvard University.  Kedren is also a certified practitioner of Emotional Intelligence and formerly served as adjunct graduate school faculty at Elizabethtown College.  Professionally, her 25 years of experience in all three sectors (for-profit, non-profit, government) fuel both her empathy and her ability to see quickly into your specific scenario. Watch the full episode or download the show notes here: https://www.growinggrownups.com/kedrencrosby Keep up with Kedren at and her work at: - Work Wisdom LLC - https://www.workwisdomllc.com/ - The Behaviorist Podcast - https://open.spotify.com/show/0suygL44OYkswhLvJvUe9L - LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kedrencrosby/ - Twitter – https://twitter.com/workwisdomllc - Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/workwisdom/?hl=en - YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCT4yJlvJEASRjYZXVvXOZw
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Feb 1, 2022 • 53min

Episode 37: The Hard Work of Equity and Belonging with Duane Reynolds

When COVID raised healthcare disparities to a national level, it ignited the work that Duane Reynolds puts his heart and soul into - creating a more just, equitable, and fair healthcare system. This conversation is relevant to all of us, not just those in healthcare. You’ve heard us say before that growth happens through challenges that contradict our current lens, and in this way, the work of social justice provides a rich source of growth if we will lean into it. So join Sara as she sits down with Duane to dig into what it looks like to find your passion, develop your voice and be part of conversations that matter, make a difference in the community, and ultimately, promote inclusion and love of all humanity. Watch the full episode or download the show notes here: https://www.growinggrownups.com/reynolds Keep up with Duane at and his work at: - Just Health Collective - https://www.justhealthcollective.com/ - The Centering Health Equity podcast - https://www.centeringhealthequity.com/#latest-episodes - LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/duane-elliott-reynolds-65653015/ - Twitter - https://twitter.com/duane_reynolds
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Jan 18, 2022 • 54min

Episode 36: Growing Up is Serious Business with Ambassador Andrew Young

Hi friends! In the decades since Andrew Young helped change the course of history as a leader in the Civil Rights movement, he has built a remarkable legacy as a civic activist, elected official, groundbreaking ambassador, social entrepreneur, and adviser to presidents. In this episode, Ambassador Young sits down with Keith to discuss how to deal with internal conflicts in external reality, how reconciliation is coming together 'in spite of', determining the kind of legacy you want to leave, seeking meaning and direction in life, and ultimately, how growing up is a serious business.  Ambassador Young was exceptionally generous with his time, and this episode was recorded in two parts totaling over two and a half hours. We edited that down to a shorter version for the podcast, but if you would like to see the conversation in its entirety, you can watch it HERE on our YouTube channel. Most of the podcast comes from the second conversation, but the first part is also rich with stories and wisdom so we encourage you to check it out. Find more information on this episode, including the transcript here:  www.growinggrownups.com/andrewyoung
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Jan 4, 2022 • 1h 6min

Episode 35: Growing (our Faith) as Grown-Ups with Andy Stanley

If you’ve been with us for any amount of time, you may know that one of our taglines here at The Leaders Lyceum and the work we do is ‘developing the whole person’. We talk a lot about leadership, family, parenting, what to do with your direct reports, friend groups, etc but rarely do we talk about faith. In this episode, Andy Stanley, Founder and Senior Pastor of North Point Ministries sits down with Keith to discuss what it means to have faith as an anchor (when it grows and matures with us), and how difficult circumstances, tragedies, and even doubt itself, can cause us to grow when we choose to embrace the challenge.
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Dec 21, 2021 • 1h 2min

Episode 34: Vertical Development in Review

Hi friends! Vertical Development, if you’re willing to live into it, gives you insight into the world around you AND insight into yourself. In today’s episode, we are not only wrapping up 2021 (say what?!), but also our current series on Vertical Development. Dr. Sara Musgrove, Dr. Keith Eigel, and guest, Dr. Karl Kuhnert sit down to discuss their thoughts on the last few episodes, their take on vertical development, and how the curriculum for our growth is all around us in every-day life.
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Dec 7, 2021 • 1h 6min

Episode 33: Everyone’s Experience Matters with Dr. Nancy Popp

Do the people around you know that their experience matters to you? Do they feel known, seen, and understood by you? This is the value of understand the developmental road map and learning how to identify where you and others are on the journey. While there is a great deal of commonality among all people, the way each person makes sense of our world is fundamentally different.  When we recognize that we are more effective in influencing others when we meet them where they are, and not trying to get them to meet us where we are, we can come alongside them and help them take their next step. In this episode, Sara invites Dr. Nancy Popp dives even deeper into the conversation on vertical development. Focusing more on the real-life application of the model, Nancy shares strategies for how to get a better sense of where people are in their development. She also issues some wise words of warning about how to not use this information in unhelpful ways.   Nancy Popp earned her EdD. in adult developmental psychology from Harvard University Graduate School of Education, where she worked with Robert Kegan. Her initial work on psychological boundaries has expanded over the years to include issues of identity, conflict, and consciousness. Nancy is one of the foremost experts in the Subject-Object Interview and Constructive-developmental psychology. She uses both extensively in her work as a developmental coach, mentor, trainer, consultant, teacher, writer and researcher. Nancy’s research led her to write The Self in Conflict: The Evolution of Mediation, co-authored with Dr. Richard McGuigan, which expands on how we can “can better understand the meaning-making that underlies the behaviors that disputants exhibit in conflict, thereby allowing interveners to help the disputants expand their understanding of the conflict situation and find new pathways to its resolution”. Don't miss this great episode! Connect with Dr. Nancy Popp at Halgren Coaching
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Nov 23, 2021 • 59min

Episode 32: Finding Your Center of Gravity with Dr. Nancy Popp

In this episode, Dr. Nancy Popp goes deep on vertical development based on her 35+ years of studying and assessing where people are on the journey. She is one of the foremost experts on the subject-object interview method, which is how we assess Leader Levels.  You will feel like you're sitting in on a college developmental psychology class as Keith and Nancy paint a picture of the vertical development journey in language different to the way we have spoken about it so far. Nancy Popp earned her EdD. in adult developmental psychology from Harvard University Graduate School of Education, where she worked with Robert Kegan. Her initial work on psychological boundaries has expanded over the years to include issues of identity, conflict, and consciousness. Nancy is one of the foremost experts in the Subject-Object Interview and Constructive-developmental psychology. She uses both extensively in her work as a developmental coach, mentor, trainer, consultant, teacher, writer and researcher. Her book, The New Science of Conflict, co-authored with Dr. Richard McGuigan, is published by SUNY press.  Don't miss this great episode!
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Nov 9, 2021 • 1h 13min

Episode 31: The Evolving Self with Dr. Robert Kegan

Dr. Robert Kegan, a Harvard professor renowned for his impact on adult development, shares insights from over four decades of research. He discusses the journey from caterpillars to transformed selves, emphasizing the potential for personal growth. The conversation delves into the emotional struggles of evolving identities and the shift from authoritative beliefs in faith communities to more personalized spirituality. Kegan also highlights the importance of safe spaces in workplaces for nurturing vulnerability and fostering connections through mentorship.
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Oct 26, 2021 • 1h 1min

Episode 30: Success Mindsets w. Dr. Ryan Gottfredson

You've no doubt asked the question (or at least thought about it!) - what do leaders need to do to be effective? The thing is, leadership isn't just about doing the right thing, it's also being someone people want to follow. So how do we successfully tap into the 'being' side of leadership? In this episode, Dr. Ryan Gottfredson shares his work in the realm of mindsets, neuroscience, and vertical development. His Success Mindsets help us grow beyond a self-protective mindset and move into a more cognitively and emotionally sophisticated way to make sense of the world. He believes that by growing ourselves in this way we are actually healing ourselves. Join Sara and Ryan as they “geek out” over these ideas.
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Sep 28, 2021 • 53min

Episode 29: Work-Life Balance with Dr. Julie Wayne

When it comes to work-life balance - do you think of ‘balance’ as a noun or a verb? In this episode, our guest, Dr. Julie Wayne shares wisdom on what a healthy work-life balance looks like, and offers practical ways to actually achieve it. Dr. Julie Holliday Wayne earned her undergraduate degree in psychology at Furman University in 1993 and her Masters and PhD in Industrial/Organizational Psychology at the University of Georgia. In her research, she studies sexual harassment, work-life balance, and workgroup diversity and has published in top management journals and her work has been highlighted in Forbes, Fox News, the Chicago Times, Parent Magazine, and others.

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