
Build a Better Agency Podcast
Scale and grow your agency with better clients, invested employees, and a stronger bottom line, with Drew McLellan.
Latest episodes

Apr 15, 2024 • 57min
EP 445: Why agency owners should start online communities with Drew McLellan
Drew McLellan discusses the benefits of starting an online community for agency owners, focusing on genuine connection over sales. Topics include fostering trust, strong client relationships, nurturing communities, and creating safe environments. Learn how online communities can drive business growth and enhance professional connections.

Apr 8, 2024 • 47min
EP 444: What behavioral economics tells us about how people connect with brands with Kristian Alomá, PhD
Everybody has a story they’re trying to tell, and brands play a massive role in people’s stories, whether they realize it or not. Most of the time, the stories consumers associate with a brand aren’t what we think they are. This is where behavioral economics becomes vital to creating an effective marketing strategy. Behavioral economics is a study that attempts to make sense of people’s behavior around spending. We don’t always make spending decisions in our best interest and often base purchasing decisions on our emotions. In fact, people usually connect and interact with brands the same way they connect with people. This leaves brands with a lot of pressure on their backs. If you ignore your loyal customers’ needs and wants, they will feel deeply betrayed. But if you listen to their stories and get to the core of what they’re looking for, you’ll build a trust that feels like a close friendship. The psychology behind consumer behavior is complicated but fascinating. Join us this week to discover how brands can use behavioral economics to build an effective marketing strategy that fosters deep trust from your customers. A big thank you to our podcast’s presenting sponsor, White Label IQ. They’re an amazing resource for agencies who want to outsource their design, dev, or PPC work at wholesale prices. Check out their special offer (10 free hours!) for podcast listeners here. What You Will Learn in This Episode: What is behavioral economics? Why people build human-like relationships with brands How narrative psychology can improve our relationships with our customers Clues that a brand uses narrative psychology well Convincing clients that a strategy based on behavioral psychology is worth investing in How strategic changes ripple throughout a whole organization Getting to the bottom of your customer story What brands get wrong about customer stories Why feelings of betrayal run deep when brands miss the mark

Apr 1, 2024 • 56min
EP 443: The do’s and don’ts of networking at trade shows, workshops, and conferences with Dave Delaney
In-person networking is still a big deal. After a brief Covid hiatus, trade shows, conferences, and workshops are back and bigger than ever. So, if you or your team plan on attending any of these events soon, it’s important to get up to date on the do’s and don’ts of networking at these events. Instead of being stuck with a stack of business cards and struggling to recall conversations with specific individuals from an event, seasoned keynote speaker Dave Delaney shares how to manage and nurture your client and prospect interactions effectively. Not sure how to strike up a conversation with a prospect or keynote speaker? Or what about when you get home from the event and still want to close a potential sale without sounding too spammy? Dave shares insights on approaching these topics and more during this episode. A big thank you to our podcast’s presenting sponsor, White Label IQ. They’re an amazing resource for agencies who want to outsource their design, dev, or PPC work at wholesale prices. Check out their special offer (10 free hours!) for podcast listeners here. What You Will Learn in This Episode: Why in-person networking is still essential How we get networking and connecting with others wrong Networking best practices for competitors, prospects, and keynote speakers The etiquette behind not being creepy or pushy to your peers How to get people’s information while you’re at the show Don’t count on the other person to reach out to you after the show How to create meaningful relationships with people after trade shows and conferences Focus on relationship-building over getting someone in your sales funnel

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Mar 25, 2024 • 54min
EP 442: Lead gen and lead magnets are your ticket to consistent sales with Jay Feldman
Learn how lead gen and lead magnets can boost your agency's sales pipeline in a tough market. Jay Feldman shares tips on thought leadership, automation, and establishing trust. Discover strategies for retaining clients and mastering cold email campaigns. Dive into the interplay between marketing and sales and building trust through value and teaching.

Mar 18, 2024 • 49min
EP 441: Finding the right project management software for your team with Alane Boyd
We’ve all been here before — your agency grows, and your day-to-day is getting a little too chaotic for comfort. Each team member has their own way of doing things, and no one is on the same page about the best approach to doing recurring tasks. As the agency owner, you’re getting pulled into things that you shouldn’t, becoming the organization’s bottleneck. If that’s you, it’s time to break that cycle with some project management software. With a million choices and a few that have become the industry standard, it’s difficult to pinpoint exactly which is right for your agency. Often, agencies will pick one based on how popular or how pretty it is, and forget about its functionality specific to your agency’s day-to-day needs. This week, Alane Boyd is clearing the fog around project management software to help us decide if we need one — and if so, what tools and functionality we should be looking out for that will get our productivity back on track. Don’t be afraid to take the time to really learn what tools are right for your team, and be generous with how long it takes for the new systems and processes to become sticky. Once you find one that works, your agency productivity will be back and better than ever. A big thank you to our podcast’s presenting sponsor, White Label IQ. They’re an amazing resource for agencies who want to outsource their design, dev, or PPC work at wholesale prices. Check out their special offer (10 free hours!) for podcast listeners here. What You Will Learn in This Episode: The benefits of project management software Taking your time learning new systems and software The signs an agency is ready for a PM software Questions to ask yourself before choosing which product is best for you Why capacity planning is the most important factor for choosing a project management software How to recognize if you’re using the wrong tool Training your project managers to use a new tool Setting up a project management tool to automate recurring tasks Considering the internal and external integrations of a PM tool that are necessary for your agency Finding a tool that your team is willing to adopt The most common mishaps with picking a project management software

Mar 11, 2024 • 36min
EP 440: The who, what, where, and why of creating online communities with Drew McLellan
Humans are hardwired to belong, and the desire to be a part of something bigger than ourselves is in our blood. Whether we connect over shared values, a favorite sports team, a hobby, or even just from living near one another, we can find community and belonging all around us. These days, many of us are finding community online through social media and spreading our social nets wider than ever. This leaves a huge opportunity for agency leaders to build their own online communities to help others learn and share their experiences about business leadership, entrepreneurship, or any form of thought leadership in which they excel. Online communities should, first and foremost, be a way to bring people together with shared goals and interests, but the benefits reach far beyond that. With enough time and care, they can become robust sales and networking tools that do the prospecting work for you. But it’s not for everyone, and that’s ok. In this week’s solocast, I’m doing a deep dive into the ins and outs of creating online communities, building an audience online, and how to make sure you’re doing it all for the right reasons. With enough patience, online community building could become your agency’s secret sales weapon that provides perks and benefits for the people in it. For 30+ years, Drew McLellan has been in the advertising industry. He started his career at Y&R, worked in boutique-sized agencies, and then started his own (which he still owns and runs) agency in 1995. Additionally, Drew owns and leads the Agency Management Institute, which advises hundreds of small to mid-sized agencies on how to grow their agency and its profitability through agency owner peer groups, consulting, coaching, workshops and more. A big thank you to our podcast’s presenting sponsor, White Label IQ. They’re an amazing resource for agencies who want to outsource their design, dev, or PPC work at wholesale prices. Check out their special offer (10 free hours!) for podcast listeners here. In This Episode: What is a community, and how does it relate to work? The difference between an audience and a community Online communities do the selling for you B2B brands have less competition in creating online communities Asking yourself the who, what, where, and why before starting a community How communities make biz dev easier for agencies Being a safe harbor for people as a community leader Community building isn’t for everyone 3 questions to ask yourself to determine if you should build a community or an audience How to build an online community and spread the word about it Having a community is a long game — have a growth plan

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Mar 4, 2024 • 47min
EP 439: Standing out against the noise with personalized client outreach with Dan Englander
Learn how personalized client outreach can help agencies stand out in a crowded market. Dan Englander shares insights on building trust, specialized agencies, and hiring sales teams. Discover strategies for effective communication and revamping sales processes to win new business.

Feb 26, 2024 • 55min
EP 438: How HR helps you build and grow your agency dream team with Barbara Mason
In a sharp contrast to the earlier pandemic years, many agency owners said that in 2023, they have the best teams they’ve ever had and want to find ways to keep them around. This is great news, and we want to help keep your agency dream team alive and thriving. To help in that journey, HR expert Barbara Mason joins me to share what agency owners and leaders can do to help make their employees feel like valued team members while staying true to the agency’s mission and values. She is a fountain of knowledge — from interviewing best practices and why HR experts need to be a part of your business to how to create the agency culture you want while caring for your agency employees as whole people. She’ll even share her top 3 secret interview questions she uses to get potential hires thinking about how they fit into the agency’s mission and values. This episode is full of practical and common-sense tips that will hopefully get the gears going and help you keep your agency dream team alive and thriving in 2024 and beyond. A big thank you to our podcast’s presenting sponsor, White Label IQ. They’re an amazing resource for agencies who want to outsource their design, dev, or PPC work at wholesale prices. Check out their special offer (10 free hours!) for podcast listeners here. What You Will Learn in This Episode: Two simple things that will help you keep your agency dream team happy Transparency goes a long way with agency employees, but know the limits What makes a healthy agency culture? How more introverted business owners can engage and connect with their employees How benefits packages have changed post-Covid Creating agency culture in a hybrid or fully remote environment The importance of knowing what you’re hiring for and interviewing accordingly Motivating agency employees to be more engaged in the work HR’s role in having a succession plan for the business Interview best practices for agency leadership Exercising radical candor in agency communications Employment trends to keep an eye on in 2024 The biggest mistake agency owners make with their people

Feb 19, 2024 • 52min
EP 437: The #1 business development tool of 2024 with Violet Rainwater
The podcast explores the rise of video as a key business development tool for agencies in 2024, emphasizing the importance of video content creation for prospecting and client engagement. Topics include connecting with audiences through video, using personalized videos for sales success, maximizing video efficiency, and tracking important metrics to enhance sales performance.

Feb 12, 2024 • 43min
EP 436: Getting insightful about agency insights for better brainstorming with Chris Kocek
Chris Kocek, agency insights expert and brainstorming facilitator, shares techniques for generating insights and inspiring action during brainstorming sessions. The podcast covers the definition and different types of agency insights, as well as their role in creating impactful campaigns. Kocek also discusses selling insights in the agency business and the significance of storytelling techniques. The chapter 'Brainstorming Insights and Creating Brain Food for Team Meetings' highlights the importance of allowing our brains to work their magic and providing brain food for team members.