

Inside with Brett Hawke
Brett Hawke
Take an intimate look inside the minds of swimming's highest achievers with one of the world's best swim coaches, Brett Hawke.
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Oct 4, 2022 • 7min
Todd DeSorbo previews the 2022-2023 NCAA season
Todd DeSorbo is the Head Coach of the University of Virginia's Swimming & Diving program.
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Oct 3, 2022 • 60min
#275 Bonnie Tsui: Why We Swim
Bonnie Tsui is an award winning journalist & author, receiving the Jane Rainie Opel Young Alumna Award from Harvard University, the Lowell Thomas Gold Award, and a National Press Foundation Fellowship. Bonnie is a lifelong swimmer and the author of, "Why We Swim".
Buy the book, here!
And, check out her newest novel, "Sarah and the Big Wave The True Story of the First Woman to Surf Mavericks".
00:00 Bratter PA, Immigration Law
00:05 Hello Bonnie Tsui
01:00 What's your relationship to swimming?
03:28 First swimming memories
06:30 Researching the book
08:45 What got cut from the book?
11:40 Guðlaugur Friðþórsson
16:43 Beine Wellness
17:31 Swim Angelfish
18:08 Swimming during COVID
23:00 What swimming has done for Brett
25:18 Lifeguard Brett
26:05 Drowning moment?
29:00 Fear
31:30 50 Freestyle
33:40 Dara Torres
40:00 Do you feel competitive still?
41:30 Open water swimmers vs Pool swimmers
45:00 Samurai swimming
52:00 People born to swim
56:45 Bonnie's kids learn to swim
59:03 Swimnerd Live Virtual Scoreboard
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Sep 27, 2022 • 35min
We've partnered with the ISHOF & Swimming World!
Swimming World Announces Official Partnership With Inside with Brett Hawke Podcast
Today marks an exciting milestone for Swimming World and the International Swimming Hall of Fame, as they announce an official partnership with two-time Australian Olympian Brett Hawke and his highly successful podcast, Inside with Brett Hawke. While Swimming World and Hawke have worked together in the past to promote the sport and its athletes, this partnership will elevate the exposure of the Swimming World brand and Hawke’s podcast, while enhancing the spotlight on the athletes who are the centerpiece of the sport. Since starting the Inside with Brett Hawke Podcast, which can be found here on YouTube, Hawke has provided fans with a window into the sport – past and present. Many of the elite names in swimming have joined the 2000 and 2004 Olympian on his show, including Ian Thorpe, Alexander Popov, Adam Peaty, Kaylee McKeown, Eddie Reese, Grant Hackett, Lilly King and Ariarne Titmus, among others. “Brett’s podcast has been a tremendous addition and asset to the sport,” said John Lohn, the Editor-in-Chief of Swimming World. “No matter the guest, Brett has a knack for exploring interesting areas of the athletes’ careers and pulling out stories that are engaging. His interviewing ability is top-notch and has made this success possible.” Over the summer, Hawke’s podcast was a must-stop location to hear from swimming’s newest star, Romanian teenager David Popovici. As Popovici set a new world record in the 100-meter freestyle and recorded the third-fastest time in history in the 200 freestyle, the teen was a guest with Hawke and discussed several aspects of his rise – from his physical skills to the mentality that has driven his success. More, Hawke welcomed Canadian Summer McIntosh to his podcast, with the teen reviewing her superb summer campaign and targets for the future. “Swimming World will continue to focus on major issues, events, leading figures, and encourage a deeper understanding of the sport we love while upholding journalistic integrity,” said Kyle Mills, Swimming World’s CTO. “We believe this collaboration with Inside with Brett Hawke only strengthens Swimming World’s ability to do that, by enhancing the quality of coverage inside our sport.” In the past, Swimming World has highlighted several of Hawke’s podcasts, and that approach will now transform into a regular process. New Inside with Brett Hawke episodes will be announced on Swimming World and include a link to the fresh content. During its run, the podcast has generated more than three million views and more than 235,000 hours of video consumption. As part of the partnership, Inside with Brett Hawke will promote content from Swimming World and ISHOF campaigns, and help grow awareness of the Swimming World/ISHOF missions. “I’m excited to partner with Swimming World,” Hawke said. “It has always been the leader in the sport’s coverage, and together we look forward to further promoting the premier athletes and their accomplishments.

Sep 26, 2022 • 40min
#274 Bridging the gap between talent and ability with Jeff Natalizio
Jeff Natalizio is the National Coach for Evolution Racing Club in South Orange County, California. He also runs his own business (Zio Fit) training athletes to master longevity and unlock their full potential.
As an athlete, he swam for the University of California. Jeff is clearly a disciple of the late, great Nort Thornton, as you will see and hear in this interview.
In this very interesting conversation, Jeff goes deep in regards to his, "Swimming Basics" lecture and its 3 main focal points: posture, balance, and feel for the water.
Enjoy!
00:00 Bratter PA Immigration Law
00:05 Hello Jeff Natalizio
04:00 Jeff’s swimming career
08:00 Cal lecture/Coaches group
10:30 David Popovici & Anthony Ervin
13:25 Feel for the water
15:05 Beine Genetic Sports Performance
15:52 Special Needs Swim Lessons
16:30 Feel for the water
20:55 Swimming Basics Lecture
23:50 Hip flexors in swimming
26:00 High level youth coaching
29:40 Training the facial system
31:54 Destro Swim Towers
32:12 Vasa Trainer
32:50 Training while keeping the feel
34:40 In the water demonstrations
36:45 Retention
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Sep 22, 2022 • 40min
#273 All things Butterfly with Swiss Olympic bronze medalist Noè Ponti
Noè Ponti won the Bronze medal in the Men's 100 Fly at the 2021 Tokyo Olympics. Along with Jeremy Desplanches (200 IM), Switzerland took home two swimming medals in Japan. He is coached by Massimo Meloni, can speak 4 languages, and is sponsored by Arena.
In today's episode, Noe talks all about butterfly. Head position in butterfly. Hips and rhythm in butterfly. Breathing in butterfly.
Noe also breaks down his best event: the 100 Fly.
00:00 Bratter PA, Immigration Law
00:05 Hello Noe Ponti
00:30 Italian grandparents
01:00 Italian, English, German, & French
02:45 Swim for Italy?
03:35 Natural feel for the water
04:45 Swimming in Switzerland
06:50 NC State
09:40 Believing you could win an Olympic medal
12:00 Indications you could swim 50 point
15:20 Confidence
17:05 Training partners?
18:35 Breaking the 100 Fly up
20:20 100 Fly and ?
23:00 Massimo Meloni
23:20 Strengths & Weaknesses
26:35 Pressure in Paris
28:56 Arena
30:00 Swimming Fly Faster
32:10 Rhythm in Fly
33:10 Head Position in Fly
35:10 Taking a break
37:15 Brett's favorite country
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Sep 19, 2022 • 1h 4min
#272 Jon Rudd talks swimming psychology, coaching ambition, Irish Swimming & the WSCA
Jon Rudd is the National Performance Director for Swim Ireland. His swimmers have won Olympic gold medals and broken World Records. He is also the President of the World Swim Coaches Association (WSCA).
In this hour long interview he hits on everything from the psychology of swimming to working with Ben Proud and Rūta Meilutytė.
00:00 Bratter PA, Immigration Law
00:05 Hello Coach Jon Rudd
01:15 Swim Ireland
02:50 Coaching ambition
07:20 What makes you great?
14:45 Psychology
18:27 Beine Nutrition
19:15 Swim Angelfish
20:00 46??
22:00 David Popovici
25:30 Swim Ireland
32:30 Irish Swimming History
35:50 World Swim Coaches Association
41:50 Live Swim Meet Results
42:28 Global Swimming Calendar
48:15 Russian athletes
51:15 Ben Proud
01:00:40 Irish Swimming
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Sep 15, 2022 • 37min
#271 Glenn Mills and the evolution of GoSwim.TV
Glenn Mills is the Founder of GoSwim.TV and a 1980 US Olympian. He won NCAA's in 1983 swimming for Don Gambril at the University of Alabama, but Brett doesn't hold that against him.
Subscribe to GoSwim and get access to thousands of videos that will help teach you the techniques and drills to you build your stroke for optimal performance. Plus, you get their new augmented reality race analysis tool that Brett and Glenn talk about in this interview.
Glenn won the 200 Breast at 1980 Olympic Trials but did not get to compete in the Olympics due to the boycott. He is married to Rachel Stratton-Mills, the Associate Head Coach of Arizona State University. In 2015, Glenn and Rachel drove an RV all around America visiting 60+ teams filming and learning from some of America's best teams.
If you are in the Scottsdale, Arizona area, you can receive private lessons from Glenn in his backyard Endless Pool. Book here.
00:00 Bratter PA Immigration Law
00:05 Hello Glenn Mills
00:15 How GoSwim started
02:30 Dave Denniston
03:55 Jeff Rouse & Aaron Peirsol
06:55 What should I do?
09:30 Flavor of the Month
10:00 Beauty of the sport
12:00 James Guy & Bruno Fratus
12:53 Swim Angelfish
13:28 Erica Beine Nutrition
14:17 GoSwim evolving
18:20 GoSwim Race Analysis
25:30 Toughest critic
28:00 USA Swimming relationship
29:00 3000 technique videos
30:30 Endless Pool
33:00 Swimming Family
34:45 Personal Pace Clock
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Sep 12, 2022 • 48min
#270 Michael Klim on battling CIDP, Hall of Fame induction, & 100 Free World Record
Michael Klim is back! In this episode he discusses his journey being diagnosed with chronic inflammatory demyelinating polyneuropathy (CIDP) and how it has affected his life.
He also talks about David Popovici, Ian Thorpe, Pieter van den Hoogenband, and being inducted into the 2022 International Swimming Hall of Fame.
00:00 Bratter PA Immigration Law
00:15 Diagnosed with CIDP
03:15 Coming forward
05:35 Not superhuman
07:50 Swimming community support
09:20 First signs
12:20 Hereditary?
13:30 Therapies for CIPD
14:30 Fearful
15:40 Personalized Nutrition
16:30 Adaptive Swim Lessons
17:05 Grieving process
17:50 Still swimming
18:19 Experts
19:20 Daily & weekly schedule
21:20 Business changes & stresses
23:45 100 Free World Record
27:00 Popovici’s Back End Speed
29:40 World Records are just mental barriers
31:05 200 Freestyle
34:15 Raw talent & mental strength
35:54 Destro Swim Towers
36:12 Vasa Trainer
36:40 Thorpey
42:00 Hoogie
44:24 ISHOF Induction
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Sep 12, 2022 • 57min
LIVE! Summer McIntosh talks training schedule, drylands, & mental strength
Live with superstar Summer McIntosh! At the 2022 World Championships, Summer McIntosh took home gold in the 200 Fly and 400 IM, as well as silver in the 400 Free behind the one and only Katie Ledecky.
The teenager from Canada holds the 200 IM, 400 IM, 200 Free, and 200 Fly World Junior Records.
In this interview she discusses her schedule, her dryland & weight training, and mental strength.
00:00 Hello Summer McIntosh
00:30 Figure Skating Sister
01:45 Happy 16th Birthday
02:30 Ben Titley leaves
05:15 Toronto World Cup in Halifax
05:45 Early season work
07:48 Best Times
10:15 Favorite Race
12:05 Developing a racing suit with Funkita
14:25 Racing Ledecky & Titmus
19:30 World Champion
22:55 Looking down the road
23:50 Young talent
24:38 Strengths & Weaknesses
25:50 NCAA
26:40 Hybrid training
30:25 Ideal events for Paris
31:25 Most comfortable event
32:39 Improving speed
33:40 30x100’s Best Average
35:40 Bad practice?
37:00 Looking at the bigger picture
37:45 World Records
39:30 What motivates you?
40:40 Outside the pool
41:45 Social life
43:00 200 Fly Tips
44:00 Training fly
45:00 Self talk in practice
47:20 Weekly schedule
48:33 Drylands and Weights
50:34 Getting jacked
51:40 Individual Medley
53:05 Breaststroke
54:18 4IM Race Plan
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Sep 8, 2022 • 11min
FROM LANE 8! Cesar Cielo 100 Free at the Beijing Olympics
Cesar Cielo qualified in 8th place after Semi Finals at the 2008 Beijing Olympics. In fact, he didn't even think he had made it back to Finals. He had already left the pool.
Cesar says that this is probably the race he likes the most - even more than the 50 Free victory.
Because this is where it all started - his ability to manipulate his own mind. This was his super power, as Brett likes to say.
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