

Inside with Brett Hawke
Brett Hawke
Take an intimate look inside the minds of swimming's highest achievers with one of the world's best swim coaches, Brett Hawke.
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Oct 26, 2022 • 3min
Thoughts on taper with Bob Bowman & Michael Bohl
Has tapering evolved in swimming? Bob Bowman and Michael Bohl discuss.
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Oct 24, 2022 • 1h 26min
#281 Adrian Radulescu and the development of David Popovici
Adrian Radulescu is a swim coach for CS Dinamo Bucuresti and the Romanian Swimming Federation. He is to David Popovici what Bob Bowman is to Michael Phelps - his lifelong coach.
Adrian received his Masters degree and Phd. from the National University of Physical Education and Sport in Bucharest, Romania. His two thesis' were: "Study on physical effort zones in pubertal swimmers" and "Study on the dynamics of metabolic effort zones in prepubertal and pubertal swimmers ".
00:00 Bratter PA Immigration Law
00:05 Hello Adrian Radulescu
01:15 David Popovici as a young kid
11:15 Bob Bowman & Michael Phelps
15:00 Dr. Radulescu
17:07 Beine Nutrition
17:56 Swim Angelfish
18:35 David Popovici 14-16 years old
22:20 Patience
27:50 "I thought you were on drugs"
31:05 Stoicism
41:20 Commitment with Wayne Goldsmith
42:05 SwimTraxx
44:10 Where are you now in your relationship with David?
48:35 Pressure
52:35 Chemistry
56:00 How do you get a teenager to believe they can be the fastest ever?
01:00:00 Is the focus mainly on the 200 over the 100?
01:02:10 200 Free Race Pace Set
01:07:25 Coming home in 23 in the 100 Free
01:13:00 Swimming in Romania
01:16:00 What did you see that we didn't?
01:20:00 Breaking the 100 Free World Record
01:23:00 Not focusing on the outcome
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SWIMTRAXX: Swimtraxx One is the smartest swim specific tracker. Track your time, heart rate, and stroke rate all from the same device.
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Photo: Courtesy of Matei Buta.

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Oct 21, 2022 • 43min
Writing Swim Workouts with Bob Bowman + Michael Bohl + Vince Raleigh
Three of the greatest swim coaches ever talk about training and writing swim workouts.
Bob Bowman, of course, coached Michael Phelps through his entire career. He's the Head Coach of Arizona State University with a loaded pro training group. Regan Smith, Simone Manuel, Ryan Held, Chase Kalisz, among others.
Vince Raleigh is currently the coach of Zac Stubbedtly-Cook (World Record holder 200m Breast), Leah Neale, and Jack McLoughlin. Vince has consistently put swimmers on the Australian Olympic team including Brenton Rickard, Linda McKenzie, Jessica Ashwood, and Nic Frost.
Michael Bohl is a 5x Olympic swim coach for Australia. He is the coach of Emma McKeon, Emily Seebohm, Cody Simpson, and many more at Griffith University in Brisbane.
00:00 Hello Bob Bowman, Michael Bohl, Vince Raleigh
01:45 Richard Quick workouts
02:00 Arizona State practice
05:00 What are Bohly & Vince doing at ASU?
06:54 Training breath control
08:29 Breaking up into groups
12:45 Grant Hackett set
16:00 Differences
17:30 Evolution of tapering
20:12 Women Sprinting
22:30 Emma McKeon sprint set
25:04 Michael Bohl test set
26:30 Zac Stubblety-Cook set
28:30 Keenan Robinson & Erik Posegay
29:20 Sustained Success
35:00 Bob's influence on Erik
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Oct 20, 2022 • 53min
#280 Anders Holm identifies as a swimmer
Anders Holm swam for two years at the University of Wisconsin before being terminated after getting into a bar fight. Admittedly, he lost everything. But he stayed at UW Madison and poured his time, energy, and focus into his writing.
After graduating, he moved to LA where he met Adam Devine, Blake Anderson, and Kyle Newacheck. They created comedy sketches for years until they finally got their big break from Comedy Central, and created Workaholics.
In this episode, Anders talks about his love and passion for swimming and how the sport set him up to become a Hollywood success story.
Ders is still in the pool and just completed his first tri, the Malibu Triathlon.
Enjoy!
00:00 Bratter PA Immigration Law
00:05 Hello Anders Holm
00:45 How'd you know you were funny?
02:00 Behind the Camera
04:00 Facial mannerisms
05:45 Why Wisconsin?
07:18 Sprint Free
08:21 Bar Fight
10:52 Staying in Madison
12:30 I love swimming
14:45 Malibu Triathlon
16:15 2 lane 150 yard pool
19:15 Going all in
22:10 Comedy Central break
25:00 Beine Nutrition
25:48 Swim Angelfish Adaptive Swim Lessons
26:20 Adam, Blake, & Kyle
28:50 Watching yourself
30:13 In front of the camera
31:20 Writing vs Acting
32:12 Hollywood Stereotypes & Surprises
34:17 Staying grounded
36:53 Focusing on TV
39:05 What now?
40:15 Godzilla on Apple TV+
40:50 Agents, Managers, Lawyers
42:00 Workaholics Movie
43:00 Most comfortable writing or acting?
45:50 Popovici
46:50 Marchand
47:10 UVA Women’s Team
48:27 Super suits
51:00 Popov
52:43 Destro Swim Towers
53:00 Vasa Trainer
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BEINE WELLNESS BUILDING: Individualize your nutrition with genetic testing and personalized plans. Eat, supplement, and recover based on your genetics.
INTL SWIMMING HALL OF FAME: Help preserve swimming history by joining the 1 in 1000 Club!
VASA: Essential dryland for stronger, better, faster swimmers. Save 10% using the code "brett" at checkout!
DESTRO SWIM TOWERS: Save $150 per double swim tower by using the code "brett" at checkout!
SWIMNERD: Big and small digital pace clocks, virtual scoreboards, and live results. Subscribe to the Swimnerd Newsletter.
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Oct 19, 2022 • 29min
LIVE with Diogo Ribeiro, Portugal's Teenage Swimming Sensation
Diogo Ribeiro is an absolute beast. This summer he won a Bronze medal at European Championships and 3 gold medals at World Junior Championships.
At just 17 years old, Diogo went 22.9 in the 50 LCM Fly, breaking the Junior World Record and the only one ever under 23.
He's also been 21.9/48.5 in the 50 & 100 LCM Free and 51.61 in the 100 LCM Fly.
All of this after a scary motorcycle accident!
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BEINE WELLNESS BUILDING: Individualize your nutrition with genetic testing and personalized plans. Eat, supplement, and recover based on your genetics.
INTL SWIMMING HALL OF FAME: Help preserve swimming history by joining the 1 in 1000 Club!
VASA: Essential dryland for stronger, better, faster swimmers. Save 10% using the code "brett" at checkout!
DESTRO SWIM TOWERS: Save $150 per double swim tower by using the code "brett" at checkout!
SWIMNERD: Big and small digital pace clocks, virtual scoreboards, and live results. Subscribe to the Swimnerd Newsletter.
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Oct 17, 2022 • 49min
#279 The Legend of Madame Butterfly, Mary T. Meagher
Mary T. Meagher (now Plant) is a 3x Olympian (1980/1984/1988), 3x Olympic gold medalist (1984), and Bronze medalist (1988) for the United States of America. Madame Butterfly, as she was affectionately nicknamed, took the 100 (57.9) and 200 Butterfly (2.05.9) events to new heights. Mary's World Records stood for 18 & 19 years, respectively!
Her career wasn't all flowers and frosting, though. After setting those World Records, she spent the next 7 years trying to better them. She missed out on competing in the 1980 Moscow Olympics due to the American boycott. And in 1984, didn't get to compete against the best because the Soviets boycotted back.
Mary swam for the likes of Dennis Pursley, Karen Moe, and Bill Peak. She is married to Mike Plant, Olympic speedskater, Vice President of the Atlanta Braves, and 10-term USOC Board Member.
Enjoy!
00:00 Bratter PA Immigration Law
00:05 Hello Mary T!
01:50 Denis Pursley Quote
03:10 5’8 128 lbs
03:40 Training & Personality
5:05 10th out of 11th children
06:55 How’d you get into swimming?
09:20 2:05.9/57.9
12:50 Bill Peak 1981
14:45 So much better
18:18 Beine Genetic Testing
19:06 Swim Angelfish
19:43 1980 Olympics
21:09 1984 Olympics
22:15 Kids know your history?
23:22 Husband was an Olympian
24:30 Madam Butterfly
27:05 Taking the WR from 209 to 205
28:15 Rivalry with Lisa
29:00 3x800 Butterfly, 12x200 Butterfly, 30x100 Butterfly
30:58 Favorite Type of Set
32:12 Skipping 58 in the 100
34:20 How did you afford training?
35:20 Swimming at Cal with Coach Mo
37:07 Swimnerd Live Results
37:45 Retirement after 88
40:45 Glenn Mills
41:27 ISHOF Induction
42:12 Regrets?
44:15 Husband Mike Plant
45:30 Why no googles?
47:37 Jon Sieben
48:40 Vasa Trainer
49:05 Destro Swim Towers
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BEINE WELLNESS BUILDING: Individualize your nutrition with genetic testing and personalized plans. Eat, supplement, and recover based on your genetics.
INTL SWIMMING HALL OF FAME: Help preserve swimming history by joining the 1 in 1000 Club!
VASA: Essential dryland for stronger, better, faster swimmers. Save 10% using the code "brett" at checkout!
DESTRO SWIM TOWERS: Save $150 per double swim tower by using the code "brett" at checkout!
SWIMNERD: Big and small digital pace clocks, virtual scoreboards, and live results. Subscribe to the Swimnerd Newsletter.
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Oct 13, 2022 • 49min
#278 Jess Jackson on her swimming career, family tragedy, & mental health advocacy
Jessica Jackson (née Abbott) is Australian Dolphin #564 (World Champs, Com Games medalist, Pan Pacs). During her rise, she contracted glandular fever aka mono and it stuck with her for years making training nearly impossible.
Today Jess is a wife, mum, and dietitian. She is also a mental health advocate specifically for people in the medical field. Her sister Chloe, a member of the Australian National Team and medical doctor, took her own life at 29 years old.
00:00 Bratter PA Immigration Law
00:05 Hello Jess Jackson formerly Abbott
02:00 Losing the Queen
03:45 What Jess loves about the podcast
06:00 Training with Alan Thompson
09:00 Glandular fever
12:00 "America is a bad thing"
15:00 Stephan Widmar
17:05 Difference between nutritionist and dietician
18:45 Hospital work
22:48 Beine Genetic Sports Performance
23:35 Adaptive Swim Lessons
24:15 Sports nutrition, training changes
27:15 David Popovici
29:30 Family tragedy & mental health advocacy
38:00 Taking a break from swimming
40:33 Australian swimmer numbers
44:00 Fondest swimming memories
48:40 Destro Swim Towers
48:57 Vasa Trainer
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BEINE WELLNESS BUILDING: Individualize your nutrition with genetic testing and personalized plans. Eat, supplement, and recover based on your genetics.
INTL SWIMMING HALL OF FAME: Help preserve swimming history by joining the 1 in 1000 Club!
VASA: Essential dryland for stronger, better, faster swimmers. Save 10% using the code "brett" at checkout!
DESTRO SWIM TOWERS: Save $150 per double swim tower by using the code "brett" at checkout!
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Oct 10, 2022 • 44min
#277 World leading MMA trainer Henri Hooft
Henri Hooft is the owner and head trainer of Kill Cliff Fight Club in Deerfield Beach, Florida. He is the creator of the Hkickboxing striking system.
As an athlete, Henri fought in over 100 professional fights.
Henri has worked with some of the worlds best fighters including Tyrone Spong, Rashad Evans, Vitor Belfort, Anthony Johnson, Michael Johnson, Eddie Alvarez, Kamaru Usman, Jake Shields, Matt Mitrione, Abel Trujillo, Gilbert Burns, Luke Rockhold, Robbie Lawler, Aung La Nsang, Derek Brunson, and Michael Chandler.
In this interview Brett and Henri discuss what separates champions, controlling one's emotions, ego, picking the right people to be on your team, and how to keep fighting simple.
Enjoy!
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SWIM ANGELFISH: Receive the tools and skills needed to teach swimmers with autism, physical disabilities, anxiety, sensory and motor conditions with Swim Angelfish, the global leader in adaptive swim. Get certified online today!
BEINE WELLNESS BUILDING: Individualize your nutrition with genetic testing and personalized plans. Eat, supplement, and recover based on your genetics.
INTL SWIMMING HALL OF FAME: Help preserve swimming history by joining the 1 in 1000 Club!
VASA: Essential dryland for stronger, better, faster swimmers. Save 10% using the code "brett" at checkout!
DESTRO SWIM TOWERS: Save $150 per double swim tower by using the code "brett" at checkout!
SWIMNERD: Big and small digital pace clocks, virtual scoreboards, and live results. Subscribe to the Swimnerd Newsletter.
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Oct 7, 2022 • 12min
How to swim backstroke | Backstroke Tips with Emily Seebohm
Emily Seebohm has swum in 4 Olympic Games for Australia. Emily is a 7x Olympic medalist. She has won individual medals in both the 100 and 200 Backstrokes. She has set World Records in backstroke. Emily knows how to swim backstroke fast.
In this clip from Inside with Brett Hawke, Emily provides backstroke tips on everything including the backstroke start, rotation in backstroke, the backstroke pull, underwaters in backstroke, and even how to breathe in backstroke.
Enjoy!
00:00 Backstroke start
01:48 Underwaters
03:24 Feet flexibility
04:25 Backstroke pull
06:00 Med ball throw down
06:55 Backstroke recovery & entry
08:35 Speed in recovery
09:40 Breathing pattern in backstroke
10:38 Use your length
11:28 More shoulder rotation less hip rotation
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BEINE WELLNESS BUILDING: Individualize your nutrition with genetic testing and personalized plans. Eat, supplement, and recover based on your genetics.
INTL SWIMMING HALL OF FAME: Help preserve swimming history by joining the 1 in 1000 Club!
VASA: Essential dryland for stronger, better, faster swimmers. Save 10% using the code "brett" at checkout!
DESTRO SWIM TOWERS: Save $150 per double swim tower by using the code "brett" at checkout!
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Oct 6, 2022 • 37min
#276 How to Shock the World with Steve Mellor
A native of England, Steve Mellor has spent most of the 2000's in the US as a collegiate swimmer and swim coach. He then moved into coaching full time and spent almost a decade as the Associate Head Coach at LSU. During his swim coaching career he guided athletes to the heights of NCAA and was able to guide LSU's first ever American swimmer to an Olympic team in Brooks Curry who went on to win an Olympic Gold Medal.
In October of 2021, Steve turned his passion for optimizing individual performance into founding his company, Career Competitor LLC. where he serves as a Performance Coach & Culture Consultant. The company was built off a four-year old podcast also titled Career Competitor where former athletes discuss how they optimize performance in a specific field by utilizing competitive and athlete-minded characteristics.
Steve brings both his educational background and years of elite coaching into his work today. Driven by the intention to best serve the unique needs of each client, Steve's mission is to facilitate the personal growth of those he works with to help reveal and commit to their optimal self.
Order the book here.
Subscribe to the Career Competitor Podcast here.
00:00 Bratter PA Immigration Law
00:05 Hello Steve Mellor
04:00 Career Competitor Podcast
05:15 Process of writing a book
07:45 Swimming Stories
08:45 Judging Potential
11:50 Creating a successful environment
14:35 Relationships in Business
17:13 Beine Wellness Building
18:01 Swim Angelfish
18:40 Shock the World
22:30 What does work for you?
24:42 Reliving the process with Brooks
26:35 Book out October 15
28:20 Being competitive
36:39 Destro Swim Towers
36:57 Vasa Trainer
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SWIM ANGELFISH: Receive the tools and skills needed to teach swimmers with autism, physical disabilities, anxiety, sensory and motor conditions with Swim Angelfish, the global leader in adaptive swim. Get certified online today!
BEINE WELLNESS BUILDING: Individualize your nutrition with genetic testing and personalized plans. Eat, supplement, and recover based on your genetics.
INTL SWIMMING HALL OF FAME: Help preserve swimming history by joining the 1 in 1000 Club!
VASA: Essential dryland for stronger, better, faster swimmers. Save 10% using the code "brett" at checkout!
DESTRO SWIM TOWERS: Save $150 per double swim tower by using the code "brett" at checkout!
SWIMNERD: Big and small digital pace clocks, virtual scoreboards, and live results. Subscribe to the Swimnerd Newsletter.
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