

Macro Hive Conversations With Bilal Hafeez
Bilal Hafeez
We talk economics and markets with leading policymakers and investors.
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Oct 23, 2025 • 34min
Ep. 331: Gordon Hanson on US Manufacturing Fetishisation, Job Loss, and the Middle Class
Gordon Hanson, a Harvard expert on labor markets and globalization, dives into America’s longstanding obsession with manufacturing. He discusses how manufacturing jobs have historically paid well for non-college workers and the regional inequalities stemming from factory closures. Hanson explores the debate on whether deindustrialization results from globalization or automation, and highlights the potential of non-manufacturing sectors like construction and healthcare to create good jobs. He also advocates for targeted local policies over tariffs for economic revitalization.

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Oct 16, 2025 • 56min
Ep. 330: Paul Cavey on US-China Trade War, Japan Politics and Taiwan Imbalances
Paul Cavey, a seasoned China economist with 25 years of experience and founder of East Asia Econ, shares his insights on pressing regional issues. He dives into the recent escalations in the US-China trade war, evaluating China’s strategic leverage. Discussing the potential for Japanification in China, he contrasts it with Japan's past. Paul highlights China's two-speed economy, the nuanced implications of its bad debts, and the outlook for Japan's currency. He also warns about Taiwan's dependence on semiconductors and compares South Korea's risks to Japan's.

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Oct 10, 2025 • 35min
Ep. 329: Shiloh Bates on CLO Risks, Private Credit and Macro Read-Through
Shiloh Bates, Partner and CIO at Flat Rock Global, brings two decades of experience in CLO and private credit investing. He shares insights on the rapid growth of private credit, noting its appealing yields and lower volatility. Bates also delves into the trends of covenant-lite lending and how it impacts credit agreements. He discusses the industry concentration in CLOs, primarily in tech and healthcare, alongside how refinancing and defaults shape CLO returns. Additionally, he explains the implications of Fed easing on the market and what investors should keep an eye on.

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Oct 2, 2025 • 25min
Ep. 328: Diane Coyle on GDP, Digital Gaps and Invisible AI Economy
Diane Coyle, Bennett Professor of Public Policy at the University of Cambridge and author of 'The Measure of Progress', dives into the flaws of GDP measurement. She discusses the overlooked digital economy and free services, highlighting how traditional metrics fail to capture productivity in modern sectors. Coyle suggests innovative methods, like time-use surveys and alternative data sources, to enhance economic measurement. She argues for a broader view of progress that includes sustainability and human capital, urging policymakers to focus on actionable metrics.

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Sep 25, 2025 • 31min
Ep. 327: Ryan Hass on China's Patient Power Play, and US-China Relations
Ryan Hass, director at Brookings and expert on U.S.-China relations, dives deep into China’s strategy of gradual power accumulation and its implications for global politics. He discusses China's hardball tactics with Europe and critiques the focus on TikTok, suggesting it overshadows critical trade discussions. Ryan examines Taiwan's public opinion on unification and highlights Xi Jinping's governance style. He stresses the importance of adaptability for future graduates, sharing insights on the evolving dynamics in U.S.-China relations and global economic strategies.

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Sep 18, 2025 • 41min
Ep. 326: Jon Turek on Fed Cuts, Recession Risks and Political Risks
Jon Turek, Founder and CEO of JST Advisors, delves into the intricacies of the US labor market's slowdown and its implications for Fed policy. He discusses the significant influence of AI-driven capital expenditures on US growth and potential inflation risks. Turek also shares insights on FX trends, particularly his bearish view on the dollar and the upcoming UK budget risks. Additionally, he explores how political dynamics, particularly from the Trump era, have shaped Fed narratives, hinting at evolving market pricing as Powell's succession looms.

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Sep 11, 2025 • 48min
Ep. 325: Chris Hughes on Misunderstood Fed Chairs, Fed Balance Sheet and Offshore Dollars
Chris Hughes, economist and author, currently chairs the Economic Security Project and co-founded Facebook. He discusses the complexities of antitrust in today's economy and how corporate concentration affects wages. The conversation dives into the historical significance of the Bretton Woods collapse and the rise of offshore dollar markets. Hughes also reevaluates the legacy of former Fed Chair Paul Volcker, questioning his impact on inflation and the current monetary landscape, as well as the evolving status of the U.S. dollar in the global economy.

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Sep 3, 2025 • 32min
Ep. 324: Alberto Gallo on Western Debt Crisis, Real Assets and US Surprises
Alberto Gallo, Chief Investment Officer and Co-founder at Andromeda Capital Management, brings a wealth of financial expertise from his roles at top firms. He dives into the complexities of the Western debt crisis, highlighting the challenges of rising inequality and demographic shifts. Discussions cover central banks' declining independence, the implications of stagflation in the UK versus the US, and unexpected resilience in the job market. Gallo offers insights on how these factors shape economic forecasts and investment strategies.

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Aug 28, 2025 • 48min
Ep. 323: Jonathan Xiong on China, Dollar and Using AI in Asset Management
In this discussion, Jonathan Xiong, Founder and CEO of Arrowpoint Investment Partners, shares his journey from law to finance. He dives into investment philosophies, highlighting the blend of quantitative methods and the importance of localized expertise. The conversation also explores AI's role in asset management, noting its efficiency benefits versus challenges for larger funds. Jonathan offers insights on Asia's investment landscape, emphasizing unique opportunities amid geopolitical tensions and the need for stability. Graduates receive advice on thriving in an AI-driven job market.

Aug 21, 2025 • 1h 4min
Ep. 322: Rerelease – Adam Frank on Aliens, AI and Climate Collapse
Adam Frank, a professor of astrophysics at the University of Rochester and passionate advocate for science, delves into the essence of effective science communication. He discusses the complexities of searching for extraterrestrial life and the technological advancements that shape this quest. Frank also explores the intersection of climate change with humanity's future and critiques the idea of colonizing Mars. He emphasizes the need for a new governance framework to tackle global challenges while encouraging young minds to pursue their passions and connect with transformative literature.


